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I caught a bit of Smackdown this week after months of not watching. Kenzo looks unkempt and dare I say retarded. Forget his skills... who's going to buy this guy as any kind of threat with his crazy wild hair (which makes him look similar to Killer Khan) and crappy tights?

Kenzo should be shaved bald for a more menacing look. Or buzz cut if they're worryed about there being too many baldies around. And what's up with the orange tights? Unless the WWE is trying to make Smackdown suck (and an argument could be made), they would be better off giving Kenzo the Matrix-like mafioso look that Masahiro Chono was using a few years back.

Hell..why not bring in Chono instead of Kenzo anyway? Are there any upsides to Kenzo??
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    Originally posted by chill
    Hell..why not bring in Chono instead of Kenzo anyway? Are there any upsides to Kenzo??


I believe WWE would say "his wife". At least if the rumormongers are to be believed.

Anyways, maybe if the high-waist portion of his tights didn't come undone mid-match, it might've helped, but yeah, his ring attire sucks, entrance is needlessly elaborate (I can't see how it could help, although I'm not sure it really hurts him)... the only thing separating him from the Generic Heavyweight Developmental Wrestler is he has a believable finisher.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.52
If you want to talk about "serious ways to improve" the guy- then I got one;

The guy has to stop making so many damn faces! Cole and Tazz try to pass it off as "you can see how focused and intense Kenzo is by looking into his eyes"- but all I see is possible signs of constipation.

I think he should stop trying to make so many damn faces to look "intense" or whatever, and just have a calm, serene look in his face- Now that would make him more likeable and viewers less uneasy to have to watch him, right? Also- he COULD do with toning down his attire a little; Im thinking dark blue; huh? huh?... ok.



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One word. Repackaging.

I think that we're all sure that the whole "Bronze warrior" thing is doomed to fail. Now imagine if WWE could craft an enthralling storyline using body language alone in order to bring about (1) the evolution of the gimmick, (2) the introduction of Akio and Sakoda into the fold, and (3) elucidation of the Geisha Girl's role as not subservient little valet, but cool, calculating "brains behind the operation."

One thing that I have noticed from WWE's Japanese wrestlers, is that due to the language gap, they are forced to be more expressive. While the language gap makes it hard to cut traditional promos, they still succeed in making us care, especially when given a good storyline. So imagine this one:

1. Suzuki continues on his path of destroying cruisers and midcarders. However, Akio and Sakoda emerge from the back to watch the action. They give the gesture of respect to Suzuki, and they leave.

2. The next week, they are backstage, where Suzuki walks, with royal subjects pampering him. Akio and Sakoda enter, appearing to want a word with him. Offended, he storms off. However, the Geisha Girl remains. She has an exchange with the two in Japansese, and they give her the gesture of respect, then depart.

3. The next week, Suzuki faces his toughest competition yet in John Cena. As Cena mounts his comeback, a large man emerges from the back, dressed in a similar fashion to Akio and Sakoda. He attacs Cena, causing the DQ, but destroys him, leaving him laying in the ring. He has an exchange in Japanese with Suzuki, and Suzuki smiles. The large man, Ken Yasuda, bows to Suzuki, and they walk back together, with the Geisha Girl behind them.

4. The next week, a limosine pulls up to the arena. Emerging from it are Akio, Sakoda, Yasuda, Suzuki, and the former Geisha Girl, all dressed in black leather. They are interrupted by Josh Matthews, who asks them about the recent events. Suzuki cuts Josh off, letting fly with a stream of Japanese invective. The former Geisha Girl tersely tells them that they will only speak to "Sho Funaki." They then storm off, but not before Yasuda glares at the camera.

5. Later that night, they get their promo time, and incidentally, the Geisha Girl does all of the talking. It seems that Cena wants his revenge against Suzuki, but after speaking to Angle, he gets Yasuda instead. Akio and Sakoda have a shot at the tag titles. And Suzuki gets to watch. The Geisha Girl, using her real name, explains that their group, Clan Suzuki, has a benefactor in common, and that benefactor is Kenzo Suzuki's uncle. Their agenda is simple: a takeover of the WWE, with Suzuki as its centerpiece. Then she yells at Funaki in Japanese and slaps him. Funaki bows to Suzuki.

6. When Akio and Sakoda have their match, they are seconded by the Clan, who interfere liberally on their behalf. Noteworthy is that only Yasuda is still wearing the black leather: Akio and Sakoda are wearing their wrestling gear, Ms. Suzuki is wearing the Geisha Girl outfit, and Kenzo Suzuki is wearing regalia. However, when Yasuda wrestles Cena, Akio and Sakoda remain backstage, and Suzuki and the Geisha Girl join Tazz and Cole for commentary. They offer no real insight into their motivations, but voice approval at how the match is progressing. However, after Cena ekes out a victory, Akio and Sakoda storm the ring, followed by Suzuki. They give him a gang beatdown, and Kenzo Suzuki spits on Cena's beaten body.

The main force behind this angle is to highlight that Suzuki is a wrestler from a powerful family, who has used their vaguely expansive resources to surround Kenzo with an intelligent and sinister wife, clever tag team henchmen, and a bruiser of a bodyguard. They also maintain some hold over Funaki, who is quite intimidated when he speaks to them. The air of mysteriousness about Suzuki's background can stand in for extensive promo time. However, Suzuki must remain slightly clueless about the fact that though it appears that Clan Suzuki serves him, they really serve the interests of his uncle, the mysterious "Benefactor."

Would I want Suzuki to spend a few weekends at OVW, tightening up his moveset? Most definitely. But the addition of the entourage allows his name and gimmick to stay in focus, even if he is off TV. He can be "in Japan," while Clan Suzuki defends his honor while they hold the tag titles, or Yasuda squashes a foe. And yes, Suzuki could use a *slight* haircut; but the long hair DOES look a little menacing. Like the character, we should grant him some indulgences in the name of keeping up the gimmick.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.29
Eh, I honestly don't see all THAT much wrong with Suzuki right now.....at least not enough to warrant this recent "he's clearly the Japanese Nathan Jones, kill him now" bit

He really needs to add more moves than 68 variations of the chop, but besides that he's not exceedingly sloppy or anything. He also needs a legit reason as to why he's actually here, but then, he's only been on the damned show for what, two weeks?
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madiq, that's a hell of an idea. Akio and Sakoda definately need to play into Suzuki somehow, because its such an obvious use for them after months of doing absolutly nothing (with not much before that even while Tajiri was still around). Who is this Ken Yasuda though? I heard a bodyguard might be coming in, but has this been confirmed or anything?



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Ken Yasuda is the guy rumored to be his bodyguard. I think that if you're going to add a bodyguard, you may as well modernize the character as well. He could always bring back the "subjects" for special occasions, but I just like the idea of Suzuki as a spoiled rich guy that likes playing at emperor.
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I've got a suggestion; no more gum. Seriously, watching the man chew gum totally destroys what little mystique he has. It's the little things.
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Madiq's idea makes a lot of sense to me. Regardless of whether they go in that direction specifically, though, they really should have Akio & Sakoda involved with Suzuki somehow. These guys desperately need a purpose, and I think the association would make all three of them look better than they currently do. Come to think of it, Suzuki needs a purpose too. Despite the promos and the elaborate entrance, all we know about him is that he's Japanese. They really haven't explained anything about him to make people care one way or another.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
You can spray all the air freshener you want but the shit still stinks.

Kenzo Suzuki blows not because of his gimmick but because he's void of wrestling ability and charisma.

Why not put this much effort into repackaging someone who can go like Val Venis?



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.88
A-Train was traded to RAW.

And yes, we've already established that Kenzo's skills aren't so good. Thanks to the person to pointed that out after this thread began by assuming that we all agree on that.

If Kenzo's going to be around, they might as well try to make him APPEAR as if he is a "feared" wrestler to begin with.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
    Originally posted by chill
    A-Train was traded to RAW.

    And yes, we've already established that Kenzo's skills aren't so good. Thanks to the person to pointed that out after this thread began by assuming that we all agree on that.


I want extra points for announcing he sucked weeks ago. =)


    Originally posted by chill
    Hell..why not bring in Chono instead of Kenzo anyway? Are there any upsides to Kenzo??


Kenzo's tall. That's his upside. And he has the legitimate sports background Jim Ross likes/liked (Kenzo's a former Rugby star)

If they want to have ANY success with Suzuki, they need to try what New Japan tried. New Japan put him with Hiroshi Tanahashi, the best of that particular graduating class. Tanahashi helped cover some of Kenzo's lack of ability. WWE needs to get Kenzo a tag partner, to be a "Hitman" to his "Anvil" to use the Hart Foundation as an example. Sadly, there isn't anybody with the possible exception of Akio who could do this without shitcanning his entire gimmick.

Oh, and Chono's old and busted. He wouldn't be a good idea, either.


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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.05
Serious ways to improve Kenzo Suzuki would be to fire the Smackdown writing staff. I know this is wrestling, but I'm not a freaing idiot. It's 1986 all over again.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.73
    Originally posted by Mild Mannered Madman
      Originally posted by chillOriginally posted by chill
      Hell..why not bring in Chono instead of Kenzo anyway? Are there any upsides to Kenzo??


    Oh, and Chono's old and busted. He wouldn't be a good idea, either.


    (edited by Mild Mannered Madman on 19.6.04 2112)


Yeah, but watching Chono lock Hogan into the STF TWICE and stretch him out at the Tokyo Dome in 2003 was about the sweetest moment of the year. The look on the Hulkster's face was priceless and I don't think his knees had bent that far in years. Plus he drilled Jimmy Hart in the face and knocked him off the apron with a wicked stiff punch (nice bump).

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.93
Sounds good NickBockwin... did you get the tape? Chono may be old and a shell of his former self, but his presence is what I was getting after.

Madiq's suggestion is what I would like to see. Especially since Kenzo doesn't have much of a physique, so really, who's that intimidated by a Spike Dudley build?
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Yeah, I ordered the Best of Chono tape from Golden Boy Tapes and it's dynamite. Chono's got so much charisma and he's got to get the biggest pops in Japan (with the exception of Misawa). The Misawa/Chono match from the 2002 Tokyo Dome is a classic.

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2. Masahiro Chono vs. Satoshi Kojima - 2001 G-1 Climax Match
3. Masahiro Chono vs. Jushin Lyger - 2001 G-1 Climax Match
4. Masahiro Chono vs. Mitsuharu Misawa
5. Masahiro Chono vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan - 2002 G-1 Climax Semi-Final Match
6. Masahiro Chono vs. Yoshihiro Takayama - 2002 G-1 Climax Final Match
7. Masahiro Chono vs. IWGP Heavyweight Champion Yuji Nagata
8. Masahiro Chono vs. GHC Heavyweight Champion Kenta Kobashi
9. Masahiro Chono vs. IWGP Heavyweight Champion Yoshihiro Takayama
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Madiq, Is there a reason why you're not writing for the WWE? lol They could use more idea's like yours.
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