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Eddie Famous
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SO YOU THINK YOU KNOW BASEBALL (W edition)-

IN 1971, the Cubs are facing the Dodgers. The Cubs have Jim Hickman on third, Chris Cannizzaro on second, and Joe Pepitone on first with no one out in the ninth.

Paul Popovich lofts a high pop fly against Hoyt Wilhelm that looks like it'll be caught by Steve Garvey at third base in the infield grass.

Pepitone has no clue what is going on, and heads towards second and rounds the base, passing Cannizzaro in the process. Hickman strays off the base and collides with Garvey in fair territory, the ball bouncing off of Hickman's head. Meanwhile, Bruce Froemming has called the Infield Fly rule.

Is this a triple play, and how is it scored?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.53
    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    SO YOU THINK YOU KNOW BASEBALL (W edition)-

    IN 1971, the Cubs are facing the Dodgers. The Cubs have Jim Hickman on third, Chris Cannizzaro on second, and Joe Pepitone on first with no one out in the ninth.

    Paul Popovich lofts a high pop fly against Hoyt Wilhelm that looks like it'll be caught by Steve Garvey at third base in the infield grass.

    Pepitone has no clue what is going on, and heads towards second and rounds the base, passing Cannizzaro in the process. Hickman strays off the base and collides with Garvey in fair territory, the ball bouncing off of Hickman's head. Meanwhile, Bruce Froemming has called the Infield Fly rule.

    Is this a triple play, and how is it scored?


I *think* it's a triple play. Pepitone's out for passing Cannizzaro, Popovich is out on the infield fly, scored IF5, and then Hickman is theoretically, at least, going to get called out for obstruction, so you would score it, I think a triple play with the outs coming on obstruction, passing a runner on the basepath, and infield fly. If you're looking for the shorthand, that'll vary from person to person, but going on what wikipedia would consider official, it would be:

TP- IF5, BV (basepath violation), OBS.

(edited by kwik on 10.10.08 1851)


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I'm guessing it's not a triple play, but a double play. Popovich is out on the Infield Fly. Hickman is out on interference. The interference returns other runners to their previous bases.
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    I'm guessing it's not a triple play, but a double play. Popovich is out on the Infield Fly. Hickman is out on interference. The interference returns other runners to their previous bases.


But does that negate the timing issue (assuming that events happened in the order that they were listed in the original post), in other words, if:

1- Pepitone passes Cannizzaro
2- Hickman collides with Garvey

occur in that order, does 2 cancel out 1?

Popovich is out regardless, and there is at least one other out, my question would be the order of events that happen on the bases.



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    Originally posted by kwik
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      I'm guessing it's not a triple play, but a double play. Popovich is out on the Infield Fly. Hickman is out on interference. The interference returns other runners to their previous bases.


    But does that negate the timing issue (assuming that events happened in the order that they were listed in the original post), in other words, if:

    1- Pepitone passes Cannizzaro
    2- Hickman collides with Garvey

    occur in that order, does 2 cancel out 1?

    Popovich is out regardless, and there is at least one other out, my question would be the order of events that happen on the bases.

Beats me. If I were first to answer in the thread, I probably would have said Triple Play. However, when Eddie has posted these, it seems like they're not the answer you'd expect. I'm just waiting to see the answer.
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53

    Beats me. If I were first to answer in the thread, I probably would have said Triple Play. However, when Eddie has posted these, it seems like they're not the answer you'd expect. I'm just waiting to see the answer.


Oh, my! My reputation precedes me! Not this time though, I honestly don't know.

My guess is triple play...and an unassisted one at that.



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    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53

      Beats me. If I were first to answer in the thread, I probably would have said Triple Play. However, when Eddie has posted these, it seems like they're not the answer you'd expect. I'm just waiting to see the answer.


    Oh, my! My reputation precedes me! Not this time though, I honestly don't know.

    My guess is triple play...and an unassisted one at that.

THAT'S NOT FAIR! :-)
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Forget the scoring question, it's just nice to see some of the old Cub names! My Dad used to love Paul Popovich.. he even had him come speak at our little league banquet and I got his autograph... good memories...

As far as the play, I would guess a double play, as the infield fly rule would negate one of the other outs.
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