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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.25
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze

When I read bad ratings news like this, part of me is distressed when WWE shows dont do well, but the other part of me hopes WWE sees the bad news as a sign that it's time for them to try something different.

Or he can say what he's been saying the last few years. "No it's not WWE that's out of touch with the fans, it's the fans who are out of touch with WWE."
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Dave "bad news for WWE = good news for me" Scherer
      Ouch. There is no other way to put it but ouch. Going against almost no legitimate broadcast programming last night, Saturday Night's Main Event finished dead last among the four networks in its time slot, doing just a 2.7 fast national rating. The final number, which will be out next week, will not differ much from this because unlike what happens with Smackdown, there were very few preemptions of the show. So, it appears that this show will do much worse than the March edition, which was a huge disappointment at a 3.1.
    When I read bad ratings news like this, part of me is distressed when WWE shows dont do well, but the other part of me hopes WWE sees the bad news as a sign that it's time for them to try something different.







I'm mildly surprised that Scherer didn't attempt to claim that the number would have been lower if not for Sabu's Extreme Rules match. Also, unless it is leading to Hogan/Austin, Hogan's probably not going to pop a huge number this time around. As WCW learned, only can go to the well so many times.
2.7 on prime time NBC is approaching XFL levels. Of course, the difference now is the XFL number was more egregious due to NBC being the #1 network at the time, compared to their current status as #4 and falling.
At least the March show had the realistic excuse of going head-to-head with Round 2 of one of the most wacky/exciting NCAA Tourneys in recent memory.
I actually forgot the show was on for the first 15 minutes, fortunately it was Hogan/Orton stuff, so nothing was missed. Even after that, it was the secondary choice of channel surfing behind Red Sox/A's.
Perhaps, unless they somehow can recreate Hogan/Andre (and even that was Friday Night), they should move SNME back into its traditional late night slot rather than prime time slot. Or, at the very least, not have the title match at the end be the 4th non-PPV world title match broadcast in the past 2 weeks. Takes away some of the uniqueness of the occasion.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
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We're not out for blood because we're used to being intro'd to a fresh idea, having it pushed hard, and then watching it get buried. See also: Kennedy, Mister and Burchill, Paul.

It warms the soul to see the six power players of SD include Fit Finley don't it? Almost helps you forget Mark Henry was there... albeit briefly.

I WAS wondering where the hell Mark Henry went.

Am I the only one who every time SD loses a guy to injury or draft thinks "God I miss Chris Jericho"?

(edited by AngryJohnny on 16.7.06 1641)



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.65
    Originally posted by AngryJohnny
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    Am I the only one who every time SD loses a guy to injury or draft thinks "God I miss Chris Jericho"?

    (edited by AngryJohnny on 16.7.06 1641)


No, youre not the only one! They NEED to get him back! And I even think he would come back! If only theyd treat him with a little bit more respect! A little bit more like a star! (DVD set & PPV Main Events) Because THAT guy really has it in his blood!



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
How has Ken Kennedy been buried?



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.38
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    How has Ken Kennedy been buried?
First loss. Free TV. Clean. Roll up. To a JTTS. Didn't get to even do his intro.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.45
It's not much of an excuse, but SNME was competing with Smackdown in a couple markets. Up here it got pre-empted on Friday due to a baseball game and they ran it on Saturday at exactly the same time as SNME. And for what it's worth, I thought Smackdown was actually a better show than SNME.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
His first loss in ten months of being on the show, to a fluke roll-up, to a guy who on the other 364 days of the year EVERYONE is wanting pushed. Which'll probably lead to a feud. That is in no way burying.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.90
    Originally posted by AngryJohnny

    Am I the only one who every time SD loses a guy to injury or draft thinks "God I miss Chris Jericho"?
    (edited by AngryJohnny on 16.7.06 1641)


I actually just roll my eyes and think, "Dumbasses shoulda done whatever you needed to do to keep Christian around!"

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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.38
X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

Feud yes, but the sound of the screeching brakes on the Kennedy bus was pretty loud. It's not Spirit Squad buried, but more Jericho "gee couldn't they do better than that" buried.

Kennedy's a heel, if you want to kick start a feud, you do it with the heel cheating to win that opening match. Sophie says "Cheating heels versus faces always draw."



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
Except if Kennedy cheats to win the initial match then wrestling logic dictates that Hardy gain some measure of revenge. By booking it this way-Kennedy beats the guy that gave him his first defeat, be it in screwy fashion or otherwise-they make it clear that Kennedy's the guy that the feud is based around.

Vince is pretty damn high on the guy, so I see this leading to him getting a win on PPV over Hardy, then maybe a feud with Lashley for the U.S. belt. There's no depush here. He lost one match to a very popular midcarder, and it's part of a planned rivalry. They had to get that undefeated-streak monkey off of his back at some point, and he may as well drop it in a frustrating loss to Hardy in order to build to a rematch.

Besides, they've hardly cut his balls off. He's still got his intro, the crowd still loves him, and he's clearly a part of their future plans. So saying he's a classic case of WWE destroying something the fans care about strikes me as very hyperbolic.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.50
How was Kennedy undefeated? Didn't he take the loss, albeit not a clean loss, but by Eddie cheating to force a DQ in Eddie's last match?

I've been missing Jericho for a long time, but especially in the past few weeks.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Except if Kennedy cheats to win the initial match then wrestling logic dictates that Hardy gain some measure of revenge. By booking it this way-Kennedy beats the guy that gave him his first defeat, be it in screwy fashion or otherwise-they make it clear that Kennedy's the guy that the feud is based around.

    Vince is pretty damn high on the guy, so I see this leading to him getting a win on PPV over Hardy, then maybe a feud with Lashley for the U.S. belt. There's no depush here. He lost one match to a very popular midcarder, and it's part of a planned rivalry. They had to get that undefeated-streak monkey off of his back at some point, and he may as well drop it in a frustrating loss to Hardy in order to build to a rematch.

    Besides, they've hardly cut his balls off. He's still got his intro, the crowd still loves him, and he's clearly a part of their future plans. So saying he's a classic case of WWE destroying something the fans care about strikes me as very hyperbolic.


I'll do you one better: they really need to ratchet up a mean streak on Kennedy and if that comes by losing to Matt Hardy on a cheap pin and then responding by mesing Matt up real good, there are worse ways.




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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
    Originally posted by Mr Tuesday
      Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze

    When I read bad ratings news like this, part of me is distressed when WWE shows dont do well, but the other part of me hopes WWE sees the bad news as a sign that it's time for them to try something different.

Or he can say what he's been saying the last few years. "No it's not WWE that's out of touch with the fans, it's the fans who are out of touch with WWE."

Yup.

Personally, I'm pleased by the poor rating, because I don't enjoy the current WWE direction as much as I've enjoyed it in the past, and hopefully this will encourage the McMahons to adopt a change in positioning.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

Wrestling has flat-out gotten boring to me, almost to the point where I enjoy reading about the matches & storyline advances more than I enjoy watching 'em. I don't know if this is because I'm older (early 30s) now, or if the product has gotten crappier, or a combination of the two....



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.43
    Originally posted by too-old-now
    How was Kennedy undefeated? Didn't he take the loss, albeit not a clean loss, but by Eddie cheating to force a DQ in Eddie's last match?

    I've been missing Jericho for a long time, but especially in the past few weeks.


WWE tend to use "undefeated" to mean "never been pinned" when they want to push someone.

Ditto with the Jericho (and even moreso with the Christian) comments.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.50
If they had Jericho and Christian on Smackdown, there would not be a ratings problem. Those two, with Rey, Benoit, Kennedy, Booker T, Batista, Regal and Finaly would make for must see TV.



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.13
    Originally posted by Wpob
    If they had Jericho and Christian on Smackdown, there would not be a ratings problem.
This argument is almost as smarky and delusional as "they need to push the cruiserweight division more."



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
    Originally posted by rv581
    Wrestling has flat-out gotten boring to me, almost to the point where I enjoy reading about the matches & storyline advances more than I enjoy watching 'em. I don't know if this is because I'm older (early 30s) now, or if the product has gotten crappier, or a combination of the two....


I'm with you there. I made it a point to watch SNME last Saturday, and ended up watching all of five minutes before turning it off. I just don't find it compelling any more.

I'm sure it's not just an age thing, either. I grew up watching wrestling with my father, and he used to call me right after Raw to chat about what the current storylines were, etc. That stopped happening two years ago. We both agreed that it's just not interesting enough to devote the time.



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
There was wayyy to much wrestling on TV last week. It's even worse because at least during the war you had WWE and the really, really horrible WCW and the usually mediocre ECW. Things were distinct. As it is, WWE, TNA and ECW are way more similar than not.

Batista issued an open challenge for the Bash.

Maybe Big Show? Ditch the Number 1 contenders stip and have a DQ finish. That might get us out of this mess.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.58

    Batista issued an open challenge for the Bash.


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    If they had Jericho and Christian on Smackdown, there would not be a ratings problem.


Well, there would not be a depth problem. But if they had Angle and Orton on Smackdown, there wouldn't have been a depth problem either prior to Kurt's suspension, but they are apparently tanking the show until CW-time "when it counts." Of course, last summer they were supposedly half-assing it in preparation for a big amazing relaunch for the move to Fridays, which again entailed, uh, sending their biggest stars to Raw.
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