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Just wondering what everyone else has though of these so far. I guess we know why the McCain campaign has kept her away from the media. The worst interview I've ever seen from someone running for VP or P. And there might be more embarrasing answers to come this week! They better hope she can debate better than she interviews.
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All I've seen is the SNL parody of it. Does Katie Couric really blink that much?
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.16
    Originally posted by MUTigermask
    Just wondering what everyone else has though of these so far. I guess we know why the McCain campaign has kept her away from the media. The worst interview I've ever seen from someone running for VP or P. And there might be more embarrasing answers to come this week! They better hope she can debate better than she interviews.
I don't think the Republicans are too worried. Remember, Governor Palin will be going up against the man who's the subject of this thread (The W) who in his interview with Couric recounted how, when the stock market crashed in 1929, a man who wasn't yet President spoke from the White House to the American people using a medium that didn't yet exist.



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    Originally posted by Downtown Bookie
    I don't think the Republicans are too worried. Remember, Governor Palin will be going up against the man who's the subject of this thread (The W) who in his interview with Couric recounted how, when the stock market crashed in 1929, a man who wasn't yet President spoke from the White House to the American people using a medium that didn't yet exist.



And yet I don't think that's nearly as dumb as (paraphrased) "Putin can turn his head and practically fly over us!" Then again I'm pretty biased.

(edited by Broncolanche on 29.9.08 1453)
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    Originally posted by Downtown Bookie
    I don't think the Republicans are too worried. Remember, Governor Palin will be going up against the man who's the subject of this thread (The W) who in his interview with Couric recounted how, when the stock market crashed in 1929, a man who wasn't yet President spoke from the White House to the American people using a medium that didn't yet exist.



He didn't say he spoke from the White House.



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I can't see her coming out of the debate looking good, she can't, there is no way ... she is going to come out looking good isn't she? Maybe not 'good', but not like a trainwreck which can be spun into good ... enough

What is going to be considered good or passable for her? The Couric interview was embarrassing and if I was on the fence with her I can't imagine being there any longer.
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I can't see her coming out of the debate looking good, she can't, there is no way ... she is going to come out looking good isn't she? Maybe not 'good', but not like a trainwreck which can be spun into good ... enough

    What is going to be considered good or passable for her? The Couric interview was embarrassing and if I was on the fence with her I can't imagine being there any longer.

Here's the thing though. It's not like she's facing some debating powerhouse; don't forget about the plagiarism incident. Or the handicapped guy incident, or the quote cited in this thread (just to give three examples off the top of my head) Biden is either A)too smart for his own good or B)not as smart as he thinks he is (or both). He has a tendency to say stupid things and also to lose his temper.

The VP debate could be a comedy of errors, so I'll at least tune in. And, at the end of the day, it's only for VP. There have been some real pieces of work in U.S. history. I don't think either one will be the worst VP but they'll also be pretty far from the strongest VP ever.
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    Originally posted by Corajudo
      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      I can't see her coming out of the debate looking good, she can't, there is no way ... she is going to come out looking good isn't she? Maybe not 'good', but not like a trainwreck which can be spun into good ... enough

      What is going to be considered good or passable for her? The Couric interview was embarrassing and if I was on the fence with her I can't imagine being there any longer.

    Here's the thing though. It's not like she's facing some debating powerhouse; don't forget about the plagiarism incident. Or the handicapped guy incident, or the quote cited in this thread (just to give three examples off the top of my head) Biden is either A)too smart for his own good or B)not as smart as he thinks he is (or both). He has a tendency to say stupid things and also to lose his temper.

    The VP debate could be a comedy of errors, so I'll at least tune in. And, at the end of the day, it's only for VP. There have been some real pieces of work in U.S. history. I don't think either one will be the worst VP but they'll also be pretty far from the strongest VP ever.


You obviously have not seen Joe Biden debate. All this talk about Biden being a "gaffe machine" is only because the guy talks A LOT. And he speaks his mind. Maybe I am biased because, as an Iowan, we got to see a bunch of debates and appearances...Biden arguably won most of the debates in the primaries (which obviously wasn't enough to topple the Obama/Clinton juggernaut).

I'd be very curious to know how many times you've seen Biden speak. I think you might be in for a surprise on Thursday.



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I think she's going to hope one of her prepared speeches works for whatever question she's asked and they'll give her a few zingers to throw out and hope they get big play on the news networks after.

Biden just needs to directly ask her questions as often as possible. Keep doing it and eventually you'll catch her in something she isn't ready for(say two minutes in? maybe three?)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
    Originally posted by StevieRichards

    You obviously have not seen Joe Biden debate. All this talk about Biden being a "gaffe machine" is only because the guy talks A LOT. And he speaks his mind. Maybe I am biased because, as an Iowan, we got to see a bunch of debates and appearances...Biden arguably won most of the debates in the primaries (which obviously wasn't enough to topple the Obama/Clinton juggernaut).

    I'd be very curious to know how many times you've seen Biden speak. I think you might be in for a surprise on Thursday.


I have, a couple dozen times,and Corajudo is only saying the things I said a month ago. Biden isn't a gaffe machine because he talks a lot, he's a gaffe machine because he speaks his mind and there's often nothing there. Plus he's blessed by having the MSM in the tank for Obama that he can get away with sounding stupid because it'll either not be played or be explained away. (cbsnews.com)

I don't know how good Palin will be, and I have no clue as to whether or not she will "beat" Biden, but I expect Biden so say several things that will be profoundly wrong and profoundly stupid.

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    Originally posted by Downtown Bookie
    I don't think the Republicans are too worried. Remember, Governor Palin will be going up against the man who's the subject of this thread (The W) who in his interview with Couric recounted how, when the stock market crashed in 1929, a man who wasn't yet President spoke from the White House to the American people using a medium that didn't yet exist.
I think the things to look for are those things that reinforce what the "story" already is. Like with Obama, the "story" is that he's elitist, so his "what's up with the price of arugula?" comment gets a lot of play because it's a comment that plays into the narrative that we already "know" is true. If McCain had said something about arugula no one would have noticed.

Palin's story is that she's ignorant, incurious, and possibly brainless, and anything she says that can be interpreted like that will be. Biden's story is, I think, that he's insensitive and talks without thinking (see: "clean and articulate"). He could say the exact same things as Palin and it would be interpreted as coming from a completely different (and, I think, a less damaging) place.

What Biden wants to watch out for is appearing dismissive, which would play into his narrative and be interpreted as sexist. I think he'd actually be better off dealing with Palin as little as possible, instead focusing his attacks on McCain.

    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Biden just needs to directly ask her questions as often as possible.
I'm not sure of the exact rules, but I think that the VP debate is structured such that the candidates won't be talking to each other much.

NYT says: "At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates."

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    I'm not sure of the exact rules, but I think that the VP debate is structured such that the candidates won't be talking to each other much.


    --K


Yeah I did read that, but what I mean is he needs to ignore it and while answering his own questions throw some her way to be answered during her next time to speak. Just add to her confusion. She won't HAVE to respond but she'd look silly to not.
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The part that amazes me is that in a month, they didn't spend every available moment bringing her up to speed. The novelty, except to the faithful, has worn off and we are left with a Gov. of Alaska who really doesn't have much to say except what she has been fed by her handlers.

IMHO, McCain should just turn her loose and let her be herself. If he has as much faith in her as he says, he should let her off the leash.

And in the debate, Biden has to be careful to not appear to bully her and make her sympathetic. Palin needs to can the scripted sound bites and be herself and learn to say "I DON'T KNOW."

(edited by DrDirt on 30.9.08 0803)


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    And in the debate, Biden has to be careful to not appear to bully her and make her sympathetic. Palin needs to can the scripted sound bites and be herself and learn to say "I DON'T KNOW."(edited by DrDirt on 30.9.08 0803)

I think this hits the nail on the head. I have seen him debate and have seen him speak, and I'm not sure Biden can just stick to answering the questions and refrain from attacking Palin or coming across as a blowhard or as snarky. Plus, he has a very difficult task--he has to thrash her in the debate without coming across as a jerk or condescending or a bully.

OTOH, she is a real/regular person who happens to be running for VP. It think that's part of her charm and why a number of people do like her (not me, but I'm not the kind of voter either major party is particularly interested in). If she can convey that charm/aura and almost hold her own on the issues. she will be seen as having destroyed Biden in the debate.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
And that is the trap. People are attracted to "regular" people, the "I could sit down and have a beer with them" mentality. IMO, that is so wrong. People need to look deeply inside themselves and ask if someone like them should be running the country or VEEP.

It may be comforting to know a regular Joe is in charge but regular Joes like us don't have what it takes to be in charge of a major corporation or this country.

(edited by DrDirt on 30.9.08 0931)


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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    It may be comforting to know a regular Joe is in charge but regular Joes like us don't have what it takes to be in charge of a major corporation or this country.
Good golly! Whatever makes you think that? I don't even know you (for example) but I'd sure vote for you against any of the bunch that they're putting up THIS year.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by bash91

    I have, a couple dozen times,and Corajudo is only saying the things I said a month ago. Biden isn't a gaffe machine because he talks a lot, he's a gaffe machine because he speaks his mind and there's often nothing there. Plus he's blessed by having the MSM in the tank for Obama that he can get away with sounding stupid because it'll either not be played or be explained away. (cbsnews.com)

    Tim


The media is so "in the tank for Obama" that the FDR thing only got about twice as much attention that McCain thinking Spain was in Latin America. Or maybe the media just thinks the next president is more likely to have to deal with Roosevelt than with Europe.

Your example is ridiculous--they "explained" it as Biden mishearing a question because that's what happened. It doesn't make any sense another way. It's only the conservative bias that causes this to get covered at all.

The truth is that the media has, in fact, been FAR nicer to the McCain campaign than to the Obama campaign. See http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,712999.story
for the actual factual basis for that.

It's nothing new--every *objective* measure I have ever seen shows that the media tends to favor conservatives. I suspect that might not have been true when conservatives *started* chanting endlessly about the "liberal media", but it's certainly true now.

See the earlier thread about the "lipstick on a pig" coverage for more on this.
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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      It may be comforting to know a regular Joe is in charge but regular Joes like us don't have what it takes to be in charge of a major corporation or this country.
    Good golly! Whatever makes you think that? I don't even know you (for example) but I'd sure vote for you against any of the bunch that they're putting up THIS year.


CRZ's right. Hell, you can hire some joker to balance the books and speak arabic and lawyer out the treaties. But regular people are what we need to have common sense in there. I wish Palin would quit trying to be what she isn't and just use the sense she must have had to get elected in Alaska and run the state.

And I'd consider voting for you, Doc. Even though you're a Lib and all. I got a feeling a Kansas liberal is a Delaware conservative. I'd vote for anyone not a lawyer (oh, Yeah, McCain and Palin are not lawyers......)




well, I would want similar study from someone other than george mason, say, Liberty University. The La Times is, in my opinion, unreliable. "stribish" as it were.



(edited by AWArulz on 30.9.08 1541)

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    Hell, you can hire some joker to balance the books and speak arabic and lawyer out the treaties. But regular people are what we need to have common sense in there.


I don't get that mentality at all. I want my president to be smarter than I am. More moral than I am. Stronger than I am. Better than I am. I know regular people, I am regular people, and I don't want anyone of them to be President. We should be led by the best not the average.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
    Originally posted by General Zod
    I want my president to be smarter than I am. More moral than I am. Stronger than I am.
I would say that I want that as well, if not for the fact that I know no such person exists.

But semi-seriously, if we only elected presidents who were more moral than I (and, believe me, that's not all that high a bar to clear) do you realize how many former presidents would have never taken the oath of office (including many who are ranked among the best ever)?




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