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#1 Posted on
Well let's just look at the facts. For a month, WWF was building up a world title feud with him and Jericho, which gets dropped like nothing before the ppv. Then RVD lost the certain jerker to Regal on Smackdown, albeit it was in screwy fashion. But now look at RVD's showing in the Rumble. He was in there only 2 minutes! I really thought RVD was going to come in early and practically carry the Rumble, although there wasn't really anyone in the rumble that did. That is really just a waste of RVD to have him do that. Quite a few people even thought RVD might win. Why the change of the booking of RVD in recent months, when not long ago he was being pushed like the second coming? If it is b/c of all the "paying your dues" shit, I think its ridiculous. If RVD is one of the most popular guys at the show, and sometimes his heat even goes over god, excuse me the Rock, then he should be pushed. I mean RVD has been busting his ass for like 15 years, and he is a hard worker. I'm sorry, I just think it is really lame. Maybe Jericho will start feuding with RVD again up until NWO, but I doubt it. I think it would be neat if he won the IC title and held it for like a year, b/c the title could really use that.




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#2 Posted on
I wouldn't necessarily complain about his time in the Rumble. After all, with how top-card heavy it was in the end, several people in the upper echelon (like Kane, Big Show, Booker) didn't last more than a minute or two. To be pissed off because RVD lasted the same amount of time is a bit much.

RVD is good, and he'll be a part of the WWF for quite some time. What I would recommend to you is some patience. He's in the top card, and very popular. He'll get his turn. Right now though, is HHH's time.





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#3 Posted on
Originally posted by Raptor
RVD is good, and he'll be a part of the WWF for quite some time. What I would recommend to you is some patience. He's in the top card, and very popular. He'll get his turn. Right now though, is HHH's time.


And doesn't that just get me overjoyed. Watching yet another HHH destruction of everyone in the WWF just does so much for my interest in the coming months. And golly gee won't there be tons of suspense as to whether he would go over Jericho at WM if they meet up? If it's HHH's time, then it's time for me to read more recaps and watch less wrestling, because he bores the beejeezus out of me. He is big though...really really big, and I guess that ought to count for something.



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#4 Posted on
Originally posted by spf2119
And doesn't that just get me overjoyed. Watching yet another HHH destruction of everyone in the WWF just does so much for my interest in the coming months. And golly gee won't there be tons of suspense as to whether he would go over Jericho at WM if they meet up? If it's HHH's time, then it's time for me to read more recaps and watch less wrestling, because he bores the beejeezus out of me. He is big though...really really big, and I guess that ought to count for something.



There, I feel better now.



To each their own. I like HHH. He carried the WWF on his back for a while a couple years ago, and squeezed good matches out of damn near everyone he faced. Plus, he's in the midst of a babyface run, which is something he hasn't really done at the top level before.

Still, when is there ever "tons of suspense" in a Wrestlemania main event? Unless they pull a huge swerve (like HHH actually winning two years ago), it's usually easy enough to tell who's walking out with the belt. For the hottest time of the year as far as the WWF goes, it's usually quite easy to figure out what's going to happen.



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#5 Posted on
Who's to say he even meets up with Jericho in 2 months? For all we know Rock, Austin, or whoever could win the title from tonight until Wrestlemania. Although I think Jericho/HHH as the main event would be really neat.




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#6 Posted on
They say the Road to Wrestlemania will be cleared up tomorrow night. It seems even hazier. Jericho/HHH in Canada will be an interesting match and one I don't think Vince really wants. Because, you know the fans will be cheering Chris, no matter what. Having a face HHH go in and win will not be a good thing. I would prefer a returning Benoit to challenge Jericho for the belt, but I don't think it will happen unless Jericho drops the belt tonight or at No Mercy.

I would like to see the rumored HHH/Austin/Rock match, because I think it will be the last time each man will wrestle in a match like that. I could see Benoit/Jericho in a match at WM, but I don't know.

I'll be tired of HHH going over too, he needs to jobb this week or next to stop the rumor mill and make him seem less invicable. People liked flawed faces more than the Superman character type.

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#7 Posted on
Wow vile one, I'm not really a conspiracy guy. But I did find it so strange that they looked like they were going with Jericho/RVD World Title match for the Rumble and it turned out that RVD lasted 90 seconds in the Rumble and lost to Regal the TV show before.

I really thought RVD was going to be the fluck small guy that's there for over half an hour and never get eliminated untill the final 5.
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#8 Posted on
"I'll be tired of HHH going over too, he needs to jobb this week or next to stop the rumor mill and make him seem less invicable. People liked flawed faces more than the Superman character type."

Jeez dude. Okay, not even counting the fact that the bookers are the ones that decide whether HHH wins or loses, he's had all of what, two matches on TV since coming back, one of which was the Royal Rumble?

Any rumors that come out of the mill now would be premature to say the least.

Besides, I disagree with your assessment that he needs to lose "this week or next". His title shot is at Wrestlemania, and for the next couple months, he is going to be built as the number one contender. He can look vulnerable against the champion leading up to the show, but he needs to remain somewhat strong until then.



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#9 Posted on
I for one am looking forward to a jericho and HHH feud... i would like to see it at WM and as far as RVD.... why not have him start building a feud with someone maybe even one of those two that culminates at the ppv rt after WM?



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#10 Posted on
NO need to worry over RVD. I'm certain William Regal has a nice shiny championship belt he'll be giving him shortly.



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#11 Posted on
I thought they gave Regal a win over RVD, because no one was buying the Devious Knucks angle. It worked too, I now hate Regal.



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#12 Posted on
Originally posted by SeVen ™
I thought they gave Regal a win over RVD, because no one was buying the Devious Knucks angle. It worked too, I now hate Regal.






Yeah, that was at Smackdown. People didn't know what to think about it. One dude a few seats over said "How the hell does Rob Van Dam lose to freakin' Regal?".

They got some work to do if they want to make a threat out of Regal, but he WAS promised a push if he kissed McMahon's ass after all.



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#13 Posted on
I know this is a RVD thread, but I am really starting to get tired of Regal. I know he can wrestle his ass off. But I have yet to see any of his WCW Lord Regal calibur match. He has a style that just clashes with everyone. I can attest it to Beniot (Who I met last Friday, but thats for another thread) Beniot was the only one that can pull a decent match out of Regal. When Regal was fueding with Jericho, I was underwhelmed (was I the only fast forwarding during their X-7 match?) At the time I thought Jericho was half assing it? But now....maybe Regal needs that commish slot again.



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#14 Posted on
To be honest....when I totally forgot that RVD was in the Rumble. He's an awesome performer...but he's NOT main event yet, besides there's what...6 'main event' guys right now? Jericho, HHH, Austin, Angle, Rock, Undertaker...with Kane, RVD, and Booker T making strong cases of being 'main event'

You can't have the WWF having 6-Pack challenges EVERY SINGLE PPV. So just because RVD wasn't in the title match and becuase he lasted 90 seconds in the Rumble means jack shit. How long did Big Show last? Booker T? Kane? I think RVD lasted longer the ALL of them.

Also when they while they were building an RVD/Jericho feud before the holidays they were also building a Test/Rock feud as well....both ended on the same show...coincidence? I think not. There was 6 weeks between Vegeance and Royal Rumble...that's a HELL of a long time to build a PPV Title Bout Feud THESE DAYS, without SOMEONE complaing about the 'staleness' of the feud.

I too would love to see an RVD/Regal feud...or even an RVD/Edge/Regal feud as they are having a rematch tonight on RAW.

As for Jericho/HHH in Canada. If they fear everyone cheering for Jericho all they'll do is have him cut an anti-Canada promo like they do with all heel Canadians. Actually current ALL Canadians (except Edge, and Val depending on what they do with him) ARE CURRENTLY HEELS...something tells me they MIGHT try and change that...ok this long-ass post is done.



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#15 Posted on
Well I thought RVD would be in there a long time, say come in one of the first five and last until the last five. But that couldn't really happen, the best part of the Rumble was when Maven eliminated Undertaker, and it wouldn't have been the same with RVD in there too.

I wouldn't be too worried about RVD, he hasn't even been in the WWF a year yet. Austin, The Rock, and HHH have done a lot for the WWF whether you like them or not (and i don't) and can still go. Then you got guys like Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Edge, who have been there longer, and should get a shot at the top before RVD.



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#16 Posted on
Originally posted by SeVen ™
I know this is a RVD thread, but I am really starting to get tired of Regal. I know he can wrestle his ass off. But I have yet to see any of his WCW Lord Regal calibur match. He has a style that just clashes with everyone. I can attest it to Beniot (Who I met last Friday, but thats for another thread) Beniot was the only one that can pull a decent match out of Regal. When Regal was fueding with Jericho, I was underwhelmed (was I the only fast forwarding during their X-7 match?) At the time I thought Jericho was half assing it? But now....maybe Regal needs that commish slot again.






I think that's less of a reflection on Regal than it is on a lot of the guys he's wrestling in the upper card, in particular their lack of ability to work with someone who wrestles that particular style. When he's in the ring with someone who knows how to work within a more ground-based submission-oriented area (or when he has enough time to work with his opponent to acclimate them to it), he's put together some good matches.

But that *is* a problem for him, because you can't just expect everyone to wrestle *your* style. I'm a huge fan of his, but unfortunately, unless he's up against certain people his matches just look awkward.

It's a real shame that Angle is a heel right now, I'd imagine that the two of them could put together a really nice series of matches.



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#17 Posted on
Quezzy, as much as I like Angle and Edge, I have to disagree. First Angle has already had some great runs at the top. Second, RVD is a hell of a lot more popular than Edge, can work just as well, and can probably make more potential money. And as long as they have been in WWF, RVD has been around the professional wrestling business, a hell of a lot longer. He was one of the flagship wrestlers of ECW which put a hell of a lot of influence into the product that WWF is today. Just saying, that's all.

To reply to Raptor that the bookers decide when HHH wins or loses matches, you probably never read WOW. HHH said he does get a lot of input into his material on WWF shows. So for some reason, I think HHH has a lot of stroke on his matches.




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#18 Posted on
i think HHH has a lot of stroke when it comes to how a match ends unless it's a major title match at a ppv or such..... the bookers/creative team have to write that to continue with storylines otherwise the wwf wouldn't go anywhere... i'm sure he has some say in those matches... but not a veto.....



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#19 Posted on
True Angle has had a run at the top, but I'd give him another one, especially since he's one of the few heels, which RVD could never pull off. Plus Angle will be taking a break next year to get ready for the Olympics so why not give another chance before then.

As for RVD being wrestling for a long time? Doesn't matter, he hasn't been in WWF that long. Raven has been around for a long time, was even in the WWF at one time in the past but he hasn't gotten any kind of a shot.

I'm just saying he's been in the fed for less than a year and everyone thinks he should be pushed straight to the World Title, how many people have been pushed that much that soon? So he's really popular, big deal, so are the Hardy Boyz but I don't think they should get a title shot.



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#20 Posted on

Well, why would the WWF want to push HIM given the recent time devoted to Bossman, Perfect, Venis, Golddust, Godfather, Maven, Jazz and, especially, Test!

When would they have the time to get him a good storyline going?



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