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For a few weeks now, it's been widely speculated that no matter who RVD's opponent is at One Night Stand 2 (Sloopy Seconds?), that Rob will become WWE Champion. Of course it's all rumor, but there is a strong chance it could happen. How long would his reign last? Will WWE finally give RVD the ball? RVD was once the most over guy in the company, his pops were getting bigger than Steve Austin's a few years ago. His push was then set to the backburner, and his injury made matters worse. After his Money in the Bank victory, RVD has seen alot of TV time on RAW, and has finally worn off that ring rust. What do you think the future is for RVD?

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I'd love to see it, but am doubtful of it happening. If it did, he'd probably have an Edge type run, and hold it until the next Raw PPV.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    I'd love to see it, but am doubtful of it happening. If it did, he'd probably have an Edge type run, and hold it until the next Raw PPV.


Obviously it's a long way down the road, but I don't see why they'd have him challenge at the ECW show just to lose. If they were going to have him lose the MITB match, they could do it on any show, but to do it on one where people are guaranteed to get so emotionally involved would be stupid on WWE's part.

If they're planning on exploiting the ECW name at all beyond this PPV, than I think RVD has to win this match (assuming the really do have him challenge for the title at that show).

And another thing: hopefully, if they actually were thinking far enough in advance to give RVD the Wrestlemania win for a challenge three months down the line, than *maybe* they already have his first challenger or feud planned out as well. But I'm probably giving them too much credit, and he'll just lose it back to Triple H at the next PPV.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
I think a lot of it really depends on who is going to win the title at Backlash too.

If Edge wins, no way RVD will beat him at ONS unless the WWE wants to make Edge the worst looking champion ever.

HHH would work, as theres actually someone the smarts and hardcore ECW types hate even more now. But if he's a tweener, or if the DX rumors come true...I dont know how the WWE would feel about a face vs. tweener thing there.

Cena would get destroyed by the crowd if he showed his face at ONS. If he wins at Backlash and continued working toward a heel turn it will be gigantic at ONS, especially if he beats RVD.

I just wonder if the WWE has planned for RVD to win it at all...it would seem really odd for them to plan that far ahead.

Although there really isn't a face challenger left anymore is there? I think the only real one is HBK.

HHH might be able to do it, esp against Cena but people might get tired of it again. RVD actually probably is one of the most over faces there.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
If they do go through with RVD winning, he will have to have a hell of a run from now until then. In my eyes he isn't on the same level as Cena, HHH, or even Edge right now.

Also, what happens with the RVD/Shelton match at Backlash? Either it ends in a no contest, DQ, or count out, or RVD will win the IC belt. RVD holding the IC belt will complicate things. He will either have to lose it, which could be worked into the angle which leads to the ECW PPV, or he will be challenging as the IC champ.

There's a lot of uncertainty here, and I like it. I hope WWE pulls this off and does something that nobody expects.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by samoflange
    If they do go through with RVD winning, he will have to have a hell of a run from now until then. In my eyes he isn't on the same level as Cena, HHH, or even Edge right now.


ECW is the great equalizer in that regard. What RVD lacks in status, he will make up for in motive. If he were challengin at Vengeance or Summerslam, I think he'd look like a chump in over his head. But as it is, he's fighting for ECW, which raise his stature in fans' eyes, like a guy avenging his beaten girlfriend or getting revenge for coffee being spilt on him. It all depends on how well the angle is played out.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
Myself I'm fearing the tried and true Dusty booking. Like say Triple H is holding the belt and gets beaten for it at ONS2, he'll claim it wasn't a "sanctionned WWE event", prompting Vince to give sonny boy the belt back. Or maybe I'm just cynical?



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by JST
    Myself I'm fearing the tried and true Dusty booking. Like say Triple H is holding the belt and gets beaten for it at ONS2, he'll claim it wasn't a "sanctionned WWE event", prompting Vince to give sonny boy the belt back. Or maybe I'm just cynical?


That's the beauty of MITB, though. If RVD challenged him for One Night Stand under any other circumstances, he could do that, but the briefcase removes all doubt that it's a sanctioned match. If Cena can't complain that he had to defend the title after a 25-minute Elimination Chamber match, Hunter (or whoever) won't have much ground to protest going into the Hammerstein Ballrom 100% fresh and wrestling a mere hardcore match.

My guess is that the angle will be set up with the champion just happening to remark that One Night Stand is lame and you'd never catch him lowering himself to wrestling for ECW. Then Rob will walk out with the briefcase and say "Well now you have to," making the match official. The only question in my mind is whether the champ will be HHH, who would get huge heel heat on an ECW show; or Cena, who would make Iraqi turncoat Sgt. Slaughter look like Ric Flair.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.82
I really hope it's Cena, for two reasons:

1) I want Cena to force people to eat their words by having a great, bloody match with RVD.

2) I want to see the the hate of the ECW fans toward John Cena.

Of course, to really make them snap, Cena would have to go over. Too bad; I'd like to see them all throw their chairs, but RVD has to go over.

On a similar note, check out Mr. Boffo's idea on the "ECW is back" thread--they should have RVD win and then immediately vacate to claim to be the new ECW champion instead, just like Shane Douglas did back in the day.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by sergeial
    I really hope it's Cena, for two reasons:

    1) I want Cena to force people to eat their words by having a great, bloody match with RVD.


I could really dig RVD and Cena doing a match where RVD puts Cena through the ringer and Cena just keeps taking every hardcore super-violent spot and asking for more, until he earns the crowd's respect. In reality, I think Cena would have to take a gunshot to the chest to make that happen, but it's a nice dream.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.87
    Originally posted by sergeial
    On a similar note, check out Mr. Boffo's idea on the "ECW is back" thread--they should have RVD win and then immediately vacate to claim to be the new ECW champion instead, just like Shane Douglas did back in the day.


They really shouldn't.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
    Originally posted by Jim Smith
      Originally posted by sergeial
      I really hope it's Cena, for two reasons:

      1) I want Cena to force people to eat their words by having a great, bloody match with RVD.


    I could really dig RVD and Cena doing a match where RVD puts Cena through the ringer and Cena just keeps taking every hardcore super-violent spot and asking for more, until he earns the crowd's respect. In reality, I think Cena would have to take a gunshot to the chest to make that happen, but it's a nice dream.


That would actually just make them hate him even more. Half the reason he's hated is that he seems to come back from everything to win, even when it makes absolutely no sense. Seeing him survive some crazy onslaught of "hardcore" moves would just make people hate him more.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Even though it would be cool for RVD to win, I will believe it when I see it. At best, he will win it for a happy ending to the ECW PPV, but will drop it soon after. And really, that's all he needs. He's not a guy they will let run with the ball for 4-5 months, because he can't cut a "WWE style" promo, and that's not the kind of guy they will get behind. If they were going to put the big belt on him, they would have done it back in 2001-02, when he was maybe getting the biggest pops in the company. But unless they want to change their philosophy, and let someones' actions in the ring do their talking (like TNA) then RVD will never be a top guy. They tried it with Benoit a few years back, and apparently didn't like results. I mean, who really needs a guy who can almost guarantee a 4 star match in the main event, right? ; )



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.65
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by Jim Smith
        Originally posted by sergeial
        I really hope it's Cena, for two reasons:

        1) I want Cena to force people to eat their words by having a great, bloody match with RVD.


      I could really dig RVD and Cena doing a match where RVD puts Cena through the ringer and Cena just keeps taking every hardcore super-violent spot and asking for more, until he earns the crowd's respect. In reality, I think Cena would have to take a gunshot to the chest to make that happen, but it's a nice dream.


    That would actually just make them hate him even more. Half the reason he's hated is that he seems to come back from everything to win, even when it makes absolutely no sense. Seeing him survive some crazy onslaught of "hardcore" moves would just make people hate him more.


This is why I dislike three wrestlers being discussed in this thread. HHH takes a beating yet always wins like Hogan used to in the 80s. I freak'n hated Hogan as a kid. Cena always wins and I just don't care about him. The only move RVD really sells is his own Frogsplash.

I'd prefer to see Edge with the title.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.40
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by Jim Smith
        Originally posted by sergeial
        I really hope it's Cena, for two reasons:

        1) I want Cena to force people to eat their words by having a great, bloody match with RVD.


      I could really dig RVD and Cena doing a match where RVD puts Cena through the ringer and Cena just keeps taking every hardcore super-violent spot and asking for more, until he earns the crowd's respect. In reality, I think Cena would have to take a gunshot to the chest to make that happen, but it's a nice dream.


    That would actually just make them hate him even more. Half the reason he's hated is that he seems to come back from everything to win, even when it makes absolutely no sense. Seeing him survive some crazy onslaught of "hardcore" moves would just make people hate him more.


You know what, I'm not so sure about that. Remember that great submission match Cena had with JBL last year? If he can pull out something like that at the ECW Arena, I think even the hardest of hardcore fans would have to give him a few begrudging cheers. Hell, ECW was all about playing to the strengths of wrestlers who weren't exactly technical marvels in the ring, so Heyman would definitely book a clever Cena/RVD match.

Oh, and I don't think there is any way Vince would let the WWE title be disrespected by having a superstar win it and then immediately throw it away for a new championship.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.06
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by samoflange
      If they do go through with RVD winning, he will have to have a hell of a run from now until then. In my eyes he isn't on the same level as Cena, HHH, or even Edge right now.


    ECW is the great equalizer in that regard. What RVD lacks in status, he will make up for in motive. If he were challengin at Vengeance or Summerslam, I think he'd look like a chump in over his head. But as it is, he's fighting for ECW, which raise his stature in fans' eyes, like a guy avenging his beaten girlfriend or getting revenge for coffee being spilt on him. It all depends on how well the angle is played out.


I completely agree, this is the perfect time to give RVD a title run. He's just coming back from an injury so people are glad to see him back, he's getting big pops. He wins the MITB gets his title shot then gets to have the title match in his own backyard. It's sort of like a big time football game. Sure the underdog might not be as strong as the favorite, but in their own home building with their fans going nuts it can make a world of difference. If the WWE is ever going to give RVD a shot, this is it. And who knows, maybe the fans will go nuts for the RVD title reign and then he'll get the credibility he needs to stay in the main event. I also think this is the perfect chance to put the title back on Edge. They seem reluctant to put Edge over Cena and if they don't want to put Edge over Cena I doubt they want to put Edge over Triple H. So the only way for Edge to get another run with the title is if he beats someone that is believeable. Since RVD is lower than Edge at the moment, it would be completely believable that Edge would be able to beat him. Hopefully RVD would get the title for a couple months until Summerslam, then Edge holds on to it for a while, atleast long enough for us to go 6 - 8 months without Cena or Triple H as champion.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    You know what, I'm not so sure about that. Remember that great submission match Cena had with JBL last year? If he can pull out something like that at the ECW Arena, I think even the hardest of hardcore fans would have to give him a few begrudging cheers.


I'm thinking Cena would have to take thumbtacks, barbed wire, and fire to get the job done. He'd have to prove he's not just some clean-cut prettyboy who's only champion to sell merch to women and children, that he's willing to get himself scarred for the hardcore male wrestling fan.

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Oh, and I don't think there is any way Vince would let the WWE title be disrespected by having a superstar win it and then immediately throw it away for a new championship.


On Live Audio Wrestling last night, Meltzer suggested the MITB match could end in a disputed finish, so that the WWE champion retains but ECW refuses to recognize it and awards Rob the ECW title. That's probably the only plausible scenario that comes anywhere near Shane Douglas in '94.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
This is from pwinsiderextra.com and THAT is the way it should happen:


WHERE DOES THE BELT GO ON SUNDAY?
by Mike Brown @ 3:30:00 PM on 4/26/2006

"I've been pondering the future of the WWE Championship. (Yes, I have way too much time on my hands.)
The Backlash main event is a turning point in the careers of two of the three performers in the match. Let’s face it, Triple H has nothing to worry about regarding his future. So the ones who have to be protected here are Edge and John Cena. With that in mind, I intend to look at what needs to happen on Sunday in order to keep these careers alive.

If the current plans are what has been reported, whomever wins the title on Sunday will build to a confrontation with Rob Van Dam at this year’s One Night Stand pay-per-view. Reportedly, RVD would then win the belt as a catalyst to the rebirth of ECW. It is from here that I jump off this particular cliff of fantasy booking.

John Cena has held the title for a bit over a year when combining his two reigns. Based on audience reactions, he is perhaps the most controversial champion ever. The jeers, which started as a small buzz, have exploded into arenas full of split fan reaction. Part of that problem stems from his primary opponents during his time on Raw. Kurt Angle and Triple H can make an average worker look very good or very bad. Cena just hasn't stepped up to the challenge. And anyone that says the mixed reaction hasn't gotten to him didn't watch the promo he cut on Unlimited the night after WrestleMania.

Back on target, Cena can retain the title on Sunday. However, if he does they have to pull the trigger on a heel turn. RVD is the defacto face in any ECW match. It won’t hurt Cena to drop the belt to a good worker like RVD. Especially if they spend a lot of time building RVD back up between now and ONS.

Edge, sorry fanboys, cannot win on Sunday. They can protect him and have the other two participants involved with the finish. But if he wins, he'll be in a no-win situation. He then ends up dropping the title in his first major title defense - for the second time this year. Unless they build a good angle around that, he'll be dead in the water. But, I do have a future plan for him as well.

Triple H is the logical choice to win on Sunday. Primarily because he’ll want to win. But beyond that, he’s a mark for the business. By all reports, he wanted to work ECW back in the day. Main eventing a pay-per-view that leads to the restart of the company, in his mind, would make him a very important figure in ECW history. He gets one notch closer to his Flair goal. Plus, he drops the title just in time to go home and play new daddy for a few weeks.

So, when RVD pulls a Shane Douglas and throws down the WWE belt in favor of the ECW Championship, they announce a tournament on Raw for the vacant title. Trips will scream that he deserves it. Cena will be claiming that it’s his. Edge comes out and claims he would've beat RVD, but was screwed at Backlash. A fourth participant, maybe Ric Flair, can jump into the mix for his “last chance at glory”. The finals of the tourney come down to Edge and Flair with Edge going over. (Oh and look, Vengence, the next Raw brand PPV is in Charlotte, NC. Imagine the emotion that Flair could pull from that crowd.) Everyone is protected, and they all live happily ever after."


Not that bad, right? What do you think? I like that tournament thing and RVD AND Edge AND Flair as champions!


EDIT: 2nd thought:

tournament finals (@ Vengeance?)
Ric Flair def. Triple H

And then Edge def. Flair (@Summerslam?)and has a LONG reign as WWE champ!

Because I really don´t want to see another transitional champ Edge!



(edited by Tyler Durden on 27.4.06 1034)


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1) Cena doesn't *need* to turn heel. What's wrong w/ going w/ the current flow? It's not hurting business. Turning him heel is the conventional idea, but why not eschew that and "think outside the box"? Don't change a thing.

2) "It won’t hurt Cena to drop the belt to a good worker like RVD." I've got no problems w/ RVD, but I don't know if I'd call him a "good worker".

3) No way in hell RVD throws down the WWE Title. Even if it would be a good story to kickstart ECW, I can't see Vince allowing the WWE Title to be devalued like that.

4) Flair should not be winning the title at this point.

5) Edge w/ a long reign? I dunno if there's enough interest in the guy to sustain a long reign.



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