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Boudin blanc
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.68

Do you believe Rush is right and yes I know his speech to CPAC is over a week old but does Rush have a point or has he lost his mind? Will Obama ever debate Rush? Rush has already called Obama out in wanting him to fail and wants to debate Obama. Will Obama set the record straight, or is Rush just a waste of time?

My opinion, Democrats need to quit worrying about Rush and he(Rush) will go away. Rush does have some good points but sometimes can get carried away. Democrats pick up on it, which is exactly what Rush wants.
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I think it is in the best interest of the dems to paint Rush as the leader of the republicans, so they will keep that alive. In fact, there is no leader of the Reps - we lost the election badly, and most of our leadership is gone from the party. Michael Steele's a good guy and I look forward to what leadership he can provide as the national chairmain of the party.

Rush's time was in the past and not the future. Clearly he still has a voice, but I have made a decision (as have many) that he no longer speaks my language. But I am still a Republican. I am still for small government and low taxes and strong defense, and for conservative social values.

But Rush? He doesn't speak for me. He used to have the same voice as me. I probably still agree with him most of the time. But I no longer listen.

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Mr. Boffo

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First off, it's ridiculous to think that a sitting president would debate a political opponent.

Second, if Rush is the most influential Republican around (I don't know if that's true), then he deserves to be attacked when he makes his usual inflammatory statements.

Thirdly, I think the Democratic Party is champing at the bit to have him be seen as the leader of the Republican Party. Every time a Republican says something negative about Rush and then goes crawling to his show begging for forgiveness is good for the Dems. In my opinion the longer Republicans go without a real leader who can build excitement about their brand the longer they're going to remain the minority party.

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Obama will be happy to debate Limbaugh. I think he has three dates free in late 2012. All Rush has to do is win the Republican nomination, and he can have his debate.

Seriously, one mention by Obama, one (admittedly well-placed) name drop by Emmanuel, and Gibbs taking some questions from the press corps, and this is an administration plot?? Seems to me much more that cable news needed something to fill time, and this presented itself.

IMO, the story turned out to be that no one in the actual Republican leadership appears able to stand up to Rush and his dittoheads. And if that doesn't change, I wouldn't be surprised to see this revisited for the midterm elections. And then GOP candidates will have to own (or disown) every comment like "Before it's all over, it'll be called the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care bill".

Unless of course Rush reins in his rhetoric...


Since: 8.10.03
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It is just quite sad that there is no leadership in the Republican Party. The way to help this country is for a real, vigorous debate to figure out what works and what doesn't. This is no better than when the Dems where in the wilderness and the Republicans ran roughshod. Hopefully within the next year, the GOP will get its act together and do more than be the party of opposition.

And Rush is loving this, as is Fox News. Rush is relevant again. I used to listen to him all the time and enjoyed his thoughts even though I didn't often agree. Now he is just a mean spirited, bitter man.

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If Rush or Palin is the best the GOP can do against the Democrats in 2010 and 2012, do we really need to have elections? Both are considered jokes, Rush is only relevant now, because the GOP is in such chaos thanks to the Bush administration that no one is really their leader. I'm sure they will have a come together at the end of the year to unify the party. Yet, the fact they throw Token up there as the head of the RNC and as soon as he started saying maybe they need to expand past the white folk, the GOP is ready to can him. The real problem for the GOP is the party of "No" strategy will work for a few months, but now that GOP Governors are not going to take the stimulus money in their states they are going to get creamed.

The GOP's strategy should be less of the party of "No." and more of the party that isn't as evil as you think it is now that Bush is gone. Also, they might want to listen to Token's idea to expand, whites are dying out and will soon by the minority if not already in the next few decades. As for Obama debating Rush, he would destroy him. Rush is a joke in most mainstream media and ekedolphin had it right, there is no point in arguing with a guy who will shill everything the GOP says no matter who idoitic, hyprotical or silly it sounds in sense his current show.
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Wow. I'm sure there's a good chance that open-minded folks like you are ready to listen to reason from the GOP and maybe even possibly change your minds. Why on earth haven't they come around to your strategy? I mean, how on earth could they possibly NOT take you seriously? Hey, call him "Token" again - maybe that'll help.

Boudin rouge

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David Frum has a pretty good article in Newsweek about this (

I'd say both sides are pretty happy with this. The Obama administration has no problem with Rush being seen as the face of the Republican party, while Rush gets lots of publicity which=ratings. Which=more money for Rush.
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Rush has nothing to say for himself. He has more writers than the Tonight Show.

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If they didn't treat him like Token then maybe I won't call him that. The "No" strategy is flawed, because people need see to politicans do something. Obama's number are good due to the fact that his seen as at least do something. Even now the Republicans are pissing away their chances to win elections by having no leader who can win an election and having the major media treat them like a joke. Yeah, my terrible strategy of expanding the base and maybe not getting killed in third straight election.

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The hell of it was, we had him in '00. Sort of. I mean, he was hardly brimming with charisma but Nader was almost taken seriously. Shortsighted Dems like to blame him for the W win, but I bet they'd take him seriously now.
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