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I'm currently running a P133mmx laptop with 48MB ram, and a 1.3 gig hd.

I'm currently running Windows 98 SE, but I've thought about running Linux on this system. I don't know anything about the OS, and since it's not Microsoft, much more the better, I guess.

THing is, how do I get started? Will the drivers for my digital camera and whatever else still work in Linux? What are the system requirements? I have a four day weekend coming up soon, so this will be my major project for those days.

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Trust me, you don't even want to bother with Linux. People love to bitch about Microsoft and the Linux faithful will tell you it's the greatest thing ever, but it's just a plain old lie. This coming from someone who uses both anyway, though Linux is just for programming/work. Linux never crashes...bullshit.

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What do you use your computer for? Or what do you want to use your computer for?

If you're switching to Linux just to switch, I tend to agree that you shouldn't bother. Not because I'm a fan of Microsoft, but if you don't know anything about the OS and are more interested in things just working, getting it accomplished in 4 days and are going to rely on this board for answers... Well you're headed for disappointment. Especially if this is your only computer.

A computer is a tool. Don't turn into something you're going to get less use out and become frustrated with.

(Now if this is a spare computer that you're not necessarily using for things that make you productive and you're willing to invest more than 4 days, great).




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I wouldn't switch that particular machine to Linux at this time.

Personally, I'm running Fedora Core 1 at home right now and I really like it. I've got the DVD ISO for Core 2, but I can't figure out how to burn a DVD in Linux, and I can't recognize the FS in Win2k if I reboot to that.

I can't figure out a lot of things, and I like figuring things out.

You could download a Live CD (Morphix, Knoppix, Etc) and try it without reinstalling your OS. Probably the safest way to do it.

Don't try Gentoo. You'll be confused. Just trust me.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Don't try Gentoo. You'll be confused. Just trust me.


I'm primarily a Windows user, but used DOS and OS/2 quite a bit in the past, and I love Gentoo. I think the thing I like most is that it forces you to learn about linux. Swim or die. The emerge system just makes a lot of sense to me, and overall philosophy of the distribution just fits me very well. I'm seriously looking at what I'd need to do to run it fulltime.

Gentoo may not be for everyone, but it seems that people that like it REALLY like it.

Gentoo would probably be a bad fit in this situation, though, since it would take a long long long time to compile everything.



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My computer will be my spare machine in about two weeks, when I pick up a more powerful desktop. I figure that at this moment, it's good to try new things on it, seeing as though I haven't really added much to the system outside of Windows and PC Suite.

My main use for this is chatting with my girlfriend in Toronto, maintaining my website, and capturing images from my digital camera. The fact that I'm using a no-name camera would deter me from using Linux, seeing as though the company that released it probaby doesn't have any Linux drivers.

I figured that if I didn't get it up and running to my personal specifications and preferences, I could reformat the system and have Windoze up and running and back to normal within a two hour period. Give or take.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.47
    Originally posted by SOK
    My computer will be my spare machine in about two weeks, .....
    I could reformat the system and have Windoze up and running and back to normal within a two hour period. Give or take.

Then give it a try. It doesn't hurt, much. I did a Mandrake install myself, it took about 15 hours over 5 days to get it all finalised, but I am dual booting, so when I hit something I couldn't figure out I went to XP and checked out the boards at http://www.justlinux.com/
A search of that site will get you answers to most things or links to answers. I found having the latest mobo drivers helped me alot.

Edit: spelling like a plastic bucket.

(edited by Merc on 22.5.04 1631)
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Yeah, I'm not saying it's too hard. I'm saying if you are still running 98 SE at this point in time, you probably aren't the target audience for Gentoo.

The board is running Debian. I've done a few different distro installs on my home PC and Fedora Core 1 was the easiest of all of them, which is why I recommend it for a new user. Fedora Core 2 just went final the other day, so you may want to try that - it's got the 2.6 kernel while Core 1 is 2.4 based.

I like apt the best, but yum is OK too. I hear emerge is very similar to those. I don't think I like RPM that much - but I do find more a bit more documentation when it's RPM based - I guess they assume a lower skllset.

I think I'll probably go back to Debian if I end up reinstalling - assuming that I don't like Core 2 (and that I can ever get my HP 300i working with it as a DVD burner)



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    The board is running Debian.


After this weekend, is that an endorsement or a warning?

I've been thinking of running Linux, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Bear that in mind when you check out these links: Linux.org has some good general info on how to get started, and a nice master list of distros which you can sort through (although not nearly well enough). Also, this (ask.slashdot.org) may or may not provide some insight into which distro you would want to run. I hope either of these help.



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Considering that there isn't any OS that I know of that can deal with a hardware failure, I'd assume that's a facetious question.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Considering that there isn't any OS that I know of that can deal with a hardware failure, I'd assume that's a facetious question.


With the way I've seen some die-hard Linux nuts talk about it, you'd think it could bring the dead back to life. Your hardware failure would have been as NOTHING to the mighty Linux! It would've fixed the problem and made you lunch at the same time!

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Considering that there isn't any OS that I know of that can deal with a hardware failure, I'd assume that's a facetious question.


Actually, the was supposed to be the giveaway.

(edited by EddieBurkett on 26.5.04 1917)


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