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Stephanie
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As much as the Ricky Williams trade is debated, I can think of two other more interesting running back debates:

1) How would the Pack's history have differed if they had drafted Barry Sanders instead of Tony Mandarich in 1989?

2) More recently, how would the Colts have fared if they hadn't traded away Marshall Faulk for Edgerrin James?

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Hmmmmmmm.... this is a tough one. When I think about Barry Sanders with the Pack the first thing that popped into my head was if he was there they may not have picked up Brett Favre. Sanders came into the league in 89. I dont recall who the coach for the Pack, he was fired in the early 90's for Holmgren who engineered the Favre trade. So if they have Sanders maybe the coach doesnt get fired and maybe Sterling Sharpe doesnt get hurt, maybe they start their return to dominance before the Cowboys emerge in 92. Maybe Reggie White goes to the Lions instead. Impossible to tell.


With the Colts, I dont see the history of either team being too drastically diffrent because both James and Faulk are elite backs. Probably the best two in the league.







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wow! this is a interesting topic. keep 'em coming Steph.

1) things would have been totally different. the packers would have probably built the offense around barry, and thus probably wouldn't had traded for favre. also, I don't think the packers would have won a super bowl because barry couldn't win one with the lions. It wasn't barry's fault (it was coaching and front office), but his style often put his qb in bad situations (eg: 2nd/3rd and long). maybe Lindy Infante doesn't get fired, Wolf never becomes GM, and no Holmgren??????

2) faulk and james are similar. if the colt had not traded faulk, I believe they would had addressed the D in the 99 draft. maybe drafted champ bailey? but I don't think the team would be too much different than it is today.



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Add to the what if list:

1. Emmitt was drafted 17th in the 1990 Draft, behind such luminaries as Jeff George, Blair Thomas (# 2 to the J-E-T-S), Andre Ware and lots of people you may never had head of before. How would the Pokes have faired if someone else had (wisely in hindsight) taken Emmitt?

2. Bo Jackson had gone to the Bucs instead of playing basebll?

3. In 1994, The Bungles had taken Faulk instead of Big Daddy Wilkinson. Not only would have had Faulk, they then would not have had to take Ki-Jana Carter the next year.





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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    2. Bo Jackson had gone to the Bucs instead of playing basebll


That was probably a wise career decision for Bo.



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#6 Posted on

Was Steve Young still with the Bucs when they drafted Bo?





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I think the year they drafted Jackson, Steve Young was in his final year with Tampa.



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A couple QB class of '83 ones...

1. What if John Elway had just signed with the Colts?

2. What if the Chiefs, who drafted Todd Blackledge, the Patriots, who drafted Tony Eason, or the Jets, who drafted Ken O'Brien, had drafted Dan Marino instead?

Of course, the *real* answer I want is what would've happened if the Portland Trail Blazers had drafted Michael Jordan #2 instead of Sam Bowie, but I guess that should go over *there* (pointing to basketball forum).
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As far as the QB class of 83

What if Pete Rosell hadn't blocked the trade of Elway to the Raiders. That bastard.
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by brick
    As far as the QB class of 83

    What if Pete Rosell hadn't blocked the trade of Elway to the Raiders. That bastard.


Huh? I don't recall that. What happened?

Regarding Stephanie's original questions:

1 - Lindy Infante would never have given the ball 20 times per game to Barry Sanders, so Sanders would have been nowhere near as effective as he was through his career.

2 - I'm guessing not much difference. I see them as similar backs in the Indy scheme. It may just be a health issue, whether mental or physical. Now St. Louis, that would be a different story.



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#11 Posted on
To respond to some of these questions:

* The reason I brought up the Faulk vs. James debate is because that's the debate I hear about the most up here (after the Barry Sanders debate). I think it stems from the fact that the Rams have had overwhelming success with Faulk, while James got injured last season on a (relatively) underperforming Colts team.

* Of course, if the Colts had signed Elway, would they have known what to to with him?

* The Lions were expected to draft Mandarich if Sanders wasn't available. That would have left them free to sign Emmitt Smith (or Blair Thomas ) in the 1990 draft. How would the two together have worked?

* Steve Young was traded the year after they drafted Bo Jackson - so that Young wouldn't interfere with their plans for their most recent first-round pick, Vinny Testaverde.

Steph



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