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No link yet, the AP just reported it and CNN just said on-air that they've confirmed it.

That didn't take long.

Bob Gates, former CIA head and current president of Texas A & M is Bush's choice to take the spot.

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Someone had to fall on the sword and it is much easier to replace a defense secretary than a VP, since the House would be able to vote on the matter and every Republican in the Senate would give you a battle as it would be raising up a possible opponent in the '08 primary season. Doing it now could be perceived as a conciliatory move by Bush towards his critics, doing it a week or 2 ago and it appears as a panic move heading into the midterms.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Someone had to fall on the sword and it is much easier to replace a defense secretary than a VP, since the House would be able to vote on the matter and every Republican in the Senate would give you a battle as it would be raising up a possible opponent in the '08 primary season. Doing it now could be perceived as a conciliatory move by Bush towards his critics, doing it a week or 2 ago and it appears as a panic move heading into the midterms.


I don't disagree but he deserves this. His arrogance and tone are simply inexcusable, his unwillingness to review and adapt made this mess worse. He seemed well able to alienate his generals and advisors and refused to hear counter arguments. Maybe "W" can make progress once he is gone.

This points to one of "W"'s greatest strengths and weaknesses, he is loyal to a fault and it has heped cripple his effectiveness.



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    Originally posted by DrDirt
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Someone had to fall on the sword and it is much easier to replace a defense secretary than a VP, since the House would be able to vote on the matter and every Republican in the Senate would give you a battle as it would be raising up a possible opponent in the '08 primary season. Doing it now could be perceived as a conciliatory move by Bush towards his critics, doing it a week or 2 ago and it appears as a panic move heading into the midterms.


    I don't disagree but he deserves this. His arrogance and tone are simply inexcusable, his unwillingness to review and adapt made this mess worse. He seemed well able to alienate his generals and advisors and refused to hear counter arguments. Maybe "W" can make progress once he is gone.

    This points to one of "W"'s greatest strengths and weaknesses, he is loyal to a fault and it has heped cripple his effectiveness.




I'm not saying he shouldn't have been bounced, but, unless you bounced him before the end of the summer you pretty much had to sit tight through the election cycle.
Former head of the CIA and President of Texas A@M? This pick seems to have the fingerprints of Bush 41 all over it. I wonder if this topic was broached when Bush 41 was at the A@M/Oklahoma game this past weekend?
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Former head of the CIA and President of Texas A@M? This pick seems to have the fingerprints of Bush 41 all over it. I wonder if this topic was broached when Bush 41 was at the A@M/Oklahoma game this past weekend?


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Apparently at the same time Bush was saying he'd keep Rummy until the end of his term, he was talking to Gates about taking over at Defense (at least according to the "political insider" on NPR- for what it's worth).



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    Originally posted by General Zod
    Apparently at the same time Bush was saying he'd keep Rummy until the end of his term, he was talking to Gates about taking over at Defense (at least according to the "political insider" on NPR- for what it's worth).


Well shit, Bush said the same thing in his chat today, while also contradicting himself.

Paraphrasing:

"I said last week that Rumsfeld wasn't going anywhere because I hadn't gotten to talk to Gates about our plans."

...

"I've been assessing defense plans with Gates for some time."
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I missed all but the end of his speech. Thanks for that BucsFan.



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Is it cynical to note that Rumsfeld resigned the day after the Dems got subpeona power?



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I don't know if Rummy stepping down really changes anything, but it sure felt good hearing that news today.

Maybe Bush is realizing that a 33% approval rating isn't a good thing.

It's probably nothing more than a symbolic gesture, but for today at least I celebrate!
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Its nice to have a different congress and Rumstank outta there.. but I wont feel like we're really at a turning point until the 08' elections.

Unless we pick Hillary Clinton... then I might move to Canada.



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