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#61 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.61
    Originally posted by Mr Shh

      As of last week, Cena vs. Bray Wyatt, believe it or not, was the main event planned for the show.

      Originally posted by me predicting in the British English rumours thread
      Hogan & Cena/Wyatts


    Re: Daniel Bryan, we've been preparing for a while now that he may not get the title shot, so this latest gossip is no surprise. As far as I can tell, these appear to be the options for him: 1) HBK, 2) Cena (title), 3) HHH, 4) Punk. If those are your options, and Punk is considered the "worst" of those in terms of card placement, then everything is fine because you could do a lot worse than that.


I'm not sure why they're not floating Cena/Bryan w/Hogan against the Wyatts. That seems like a better use of the talent involved (provided that the Bryan/Michaels match falls through, which I hope it doesn't).
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#62 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.97
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    (Side note: How long until a "THIS MAN FEEDS YOU *clap clap clapclapclap*" chant starts up?)


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    Originally posted by Wiretap
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      What's the backup plan for Bryan if HBK remains retired? Bryan vs. Kane, or would Bryan get bumped up to face Cena for the title?


    I would think if HBK/Bryan falls through, they could have a Shield 6-man with Bryan/Sheamus/Whoever and finally break up The Shield post-match or the next night.


Meltzer speculated about Heel Authority Sheamus as an option for Cena if they second-guess Wyatt, but to me he'd be the logical, if disappointing, contingency plan for Daniel Bryan. He kind of ties in perfectly as both Hunter's Boy and the perpetrator from the original scene of the crime at WM28. Match stipulation would have to be like Wargames in that there can't be a finish for the first seven minutes.

If Sheamus is really behind schedule on recovery, he'll be running close into that "you have to be ready to be a TV regular by this drop-dead date or else we'll just bring you back after Mania, ok gotta run, thanks."

You figure/hope that Vince and HHH must have some inkling about Shawn and that's why they've started towards Punk/HHH when they're similar acts and Bryan would be the hotter and more appropriate guy for the final showdown. But Vince is also the guy who started building to himself vs. Bret at Wrestlemania 22 before ever talking to Bret and Austin vs. Orton at Wrestlemania 25 before ever talking to Austin.
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#63 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Side note: How long until a "THIS MAN FEEDS YOU *clap clap clapclapclap*" chant starts up?)


If he ever turns heel, there's the first tshirt slogan I want to see.
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#64 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.35

    Match stipulation would have to be like Wargames in that there can't be a finish for the first seven minutes.


Absolutely not. They make no reference to that spot for the entire build up, they set up that spot to start the match, Bryan avoids it that time, they have a match, that spot comes back out of nowhere at the finish, Sheamus hits the kick again, Bryan kicks out, Bryan wins. That's it, that's how it's got to be. Bryan getting only the revenge 7 second win would get the great pop but only until everyone realizes they only got 7 seconds of Daniel Bryan again.*

(the bigger problem is Sheamus pulling a Ryback and losing in his big return and right after turning heel.)

* - probably no Brodus Clay this year dancing to get people extra mad this year. Also, it seems like there must be some plan of Brodus versus Someone Much More Important Than Tensai/Truth/Woods if they're bothering to put this much effort into the breakup, but there's no sign of it in these plans. I thought this was ending up sort of full circle with Brodus getting Tensai's original spot as big monster Cena must overcome, but maybe that's not happening if the Wyatts are getting that spot instead.

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#65 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.28
I find it strange that the Metlzer article has no mention of Bryan even as a back up plan for WM.

There are two ways of looking at this.

Either they are completely bonkers & determined to not put Daniel Bryan over... or, the reactions he's been getting as of late have set off the £££ signs in Vince McMahon's head & thrown any non-title plans they had for him out the window, & they're purposely keeping their cards very close to their chest and feeding BS to the dirt-sheets.

I really want to believe the latter.









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#66 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
Meltzer has now apparently changed tack and stated that, while the Cena/Wyatt match is now more concrete part of their plans as of last week, it's not going to be the main event.

I truly have no idea what they're doing or how they're making such an abysmal hash of this. With the roster at their disposal and existing storylines already in place, the fact that they could have a card like this:

-Cena Vs. Undertaker
-Punk Vs. HHH
-Batista Vs. Lesnar
-Bryan Vs. Orton for the title

...and they're hovering around matches that make no sense and bouts no-one wants to see....it's insane.
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#67 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.63
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran

    -Cena Vs. Undertaker
    -Punk Vs. HHH
    -Batista Vs. Lesnar
    -Bryan Vs. Orton for the


Perfect card!



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#68 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.31
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Meltzer has now apparently changed tack and stated that, while the Cena/Wyatt match is now more concrete part of their plans as of last week, it's not going to be the main event.

    I truly have no idea what they're doing or how they're making such an abysmal hash of this. With the roster at their disposal and existing storylines already in place, the fact that they could have a card like this:

    -Cena Vs. Undertaker
    -Punk Vs. HHH
    -Batista Vs. Lesnar
    -Bryan Vs. Orton for the title

    ...and they're hovering around matches that make no sense and bouts no-one wants to see....it's insane.


The real problem has been the part timers. WWE goes out of there way each year to appease the old timers who want one last payday or multiple last paydays in key spots. Shawn Michaels has been retired since WM 27 and he has not missed one Wrestlemania since then. Undertaker takes 10 months out of the year off then gets a massive payday. Yes, every Streak match is a MOTY, but again last year the crowd was split on who they wanted to win. The Streak is starting run its course minus Cena, there really isn't anyone I want to see Taker beat. Lesnar being on this card is a fucking joke.

Batista is this year's old timer who is a draw, they think. He asked/demanded a big spot at Mania which he is allowed too, he got it and WWE threw whatever plans they had for some of the every day guys out the window. Bryan and Punk will have nice places on the card, but I doubt they will be in the main event and again, all reports seem to lean this far that they will face two part timers who don't need the money or should be on this card. HHH keeps saying they are building new stars, they are not when he is taking a new stars spot.

Add in the celebrity match that said celebrity is going to win even though they have no business being in that ring. Wrestlemania should have celebrities and it has been a stable since WM I. Yet, look at the Manias that were great. Wrestlemania 3,10,17 and 20 did not have celebrities in the ring and they are the top four Manias of all time. Maybe instead of trying to be mainstream for the billionth time, they could just let the roster they have now bring the goods unless they secretly know their roster sucks and the chief reason is the McMahons no longer have an eye for talent.



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#69 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.31
It's not that they are appeasing old/part-timers (except HHH), it's that they refuse to believe that anyone but Cena/HBK/Undertaker/Rock (and now apparently Batista) can possibly be a draw, which in turn leads them to constantly undermine anyone who isn't Cena/HBK/Undertaker/Rock (and now apparently Batista), which makes everyone else incapable of being a draw, which leads them to believe that anyone but Cena/HBK/Undertaker/Rock (and now apparently Batista) cannot possibly be a draw, which leads them to...

Because it's a big, x-shaped number, I think WMXXX should have a past-present-future vibe to the card. I don't have an issue with that. This should be the big passing of the torch/end of an era Wrestlemania, ideally where Bryan would never have had the phantom run(s) with the title and would instead be trying to win it from Unified Reluctant Corporate Champion John Cena.

But failing that, I'd have no problem with:

-Cena vs. Underakter - End Of The Streak match (Cena decides there's one thing left for him to do, everyone decides Cena is the one guy who can do it, Cena still loses, Undertaker officially retires putting a young guy over at Survivor Series, goes into the Hall of Fame at what I assume will be called Wrestlemania XXXWON)

-Punk vs. HHH - Punk becomes the human avatar of smart fans and kills off HHH, closing the book on the decade-plus McMahon-Helmsley Corporate Alliance Authority angle (and HHH can unretire in two years when Punk retires)

-Bryan vs. HBK - Student becomes the master

-SHIELD Implodes - three-way ladder match for the US title, Reigns wins, begins the road to becoming Unified Champ at close of WMXXXWON

-Batista vs. Orton - Title match, Dave is brought back by HHH to be Orton's insurance in the Rumble but goes rogue and challenges for it instead, Orton kicks him in the head and Dave loses his memory and goes back to Hollywood

-Sin Cara vs. Mysterio - Sin Cara wins but at the cost of Mysterio who dies in a losing effort and his spirit rises out of his body, flies around the arena and then leaps into Albert Del Rio, who becomes possessed with Rey's power and morphs into Dos Caras Jr.

-Rhodes Family vs. Wyatt Family - culimation of blood feud with Bray Wyatt as Evil Dusty Rhodes. Dusty sits and watches the match in his own rocking chair and let's say Booker T (helping Goldust) or Kane (who throws off the shackles of his Wyatt brainwashing) is the honorary Third Rhodes

-Cesaro vs. Big Show - Cesaro does the Big Swing to Big Show

-Big E vs. Henry - pre-show match or something I don't know

-Hogan and Miz host, Ziggler quits wrestling and appears on a wrestler-headlined comedy show scheduled to appear in town that weekend, a live episode of Total Divas takes place between every match on the card causing them to cut seven minutes from the Wyatt/Rhodes match (news delivered to the them by Bad News Barrett)
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#70 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.14

Since lotjx hates WWE and never says anything good about it, it sure is nice to see his fresh, objective criticism. Where do we begin?


    Originally posted by lotjx
    WWE goes out of there way each year to appease the old timers who want one last payday or multiple last paydays in key spots.

Please explain to me how you know they are doing this to appease old-timers? Do you honestly think Vince has "Ceasaro/Ziggler iron man match, Daniel Bryan taps out Triple H & Shawn Michaels at the same time, everyone over 6 feet tall commits suicide" on a whiteboard somewhere? Or do they perceive the part-timers to be bigger stars? I mean, the part-timers ARE bigger stars. We can certainly debate whose fault that is, but take away these part-timers and it's just an extra long edition of Payback.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Shawn Michaels has been retired since WM 27 and he has not missed one Wrestlemania since then.

There have only been two Wrestlemanias since WM27, calm down. He's managed Triple H a couple times. You know Hunter is going to be working Mania because he is the person who gets to decide if he deserves to, so who else is going to be his corner-man? Justin Gabriel? Shawn's not taking anyone's spot. There is no other logical person for that spot.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Undertaker takes 10 months out of the year off then gets a massive payday. Yes, every Streak match is a MOTY, but again last year the crowd was split on who they wanted to win. The Streak is starting run its course minus Cena, there really isn't anyone I want to see Taker beat.

You're just going absolutely batty here. First of all, just because people popped for Punk's near falls doesn't mean the crowd was "split on who they wanted to win". No one really wants Taker to lose, the fun is in seeing him almost lose and somehow pull it out. You yourself said it's always a MOTY candidate and yet you're arguing the match has no place on the Superbowl show. It's the ultimate old school match: one where winning and losing means everything. It should be there for Taker as long as he's willing to keep doing it.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Lesnar being on this card is a fucking joke.

What? Why?


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Batista is this year's old timer who is a draw, they think. He asked/demanded a big spot at Mania which he is allowed too, he got it and WWE threw whatever plans they had for some of the every day guys out the
    window.

Again, how do you know what he demanded? Are you Edward Snowden? And the reports are that they throw out plans for all kinds of guys all the time; they would be doing that whether Batista was there or not. And also, can I just say Batista as a heel in his final run was awesome and really entertaining? I actually am looking forward to seeing him back.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Add in the celebrity match that said celebrity is going to win even though they have no business being in that ring.

What difference does it make if the chick from Extra beats a heel diva? And Snooki executed her spot better than half the divas they have now, she can't help it if she's better coordinated drunk than Kaitlyn is sober.


    Originally posted by lotjx
    Maybe instead of trying to be mainstream for the billionth time, they could just let the roster they have now bring the goods unless they secretly know their roster sucks and the chief reason is the McMahons no longer have an eye for talent.

Hold on, are you saying they don't have a good roster after you just spent the whole post denigrating them for not using their roster?

Would anything WWE did make you happy?





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#71 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.31
Can I personally say how much I hate the lets take one quote and turn it into a paragraph rebuttal, because trying rebut that rebuttal turns the entire thing into a mess. Yes, I must loath the WWE that is why I spent a ton of cash to go to Mania this year. There is some good aspects about the product namely, I do like their roster. I just think WWE doesn't that is why we have seen more part timers come in these last few years than ever.

My problem with the WWE is they drop the ball too much on big storylines. My problem with the fanbase is expect the WWE to not do that, but year after year they drop the ball. The fanbase to me as become the definition of madness. So, much so I got a public apology from this site when I called them doing something so stupid, they felt compelled to do it for no good reason other than to give a part timer some heat.

So, lets go with HBK first. I'll give you HHH/Taker Hell in the Cell. Not last year. Does HHH need a corner man if he is the King of Kings? No. Did he help elevate the Brock/HHH match at all? No. Why, because it was the beer match of the PPV that is a fact. Part of the reason was the placement on the card, because someone thinks they can follow a Taker Mania match. He can't.

Punk was getting cheered 60/40 at Mania and not just for the pinfalls. The Streak is wearing thin on the fanbase, because its really who is going to eat that pin. Some fans didn't want it to be Punk to be another notch on Taker's belt.

Brock is a fucking joke, because the WWE has made him a joke. He is barely there has a 3-2 record, one of those losses from an over the hilll wrestler and he will be 3-3 when he loses to Taker if he goes in that direction. I understand this a payday for him, but his mystique is gone. If he wants to be the pin me, pay me guy, go ahead, but I could care less. Punk losing to him was also a joke, Cena and HHH can be Brock, but Punk can't? Come on.

Celebrities have always bugged me. Yes, I know about Mr. T. So what? That time has passed. If the diva division wants to be taken seriously how can they get on with random talk show girl beating them in matches? Its Jay Leno all over again just on a smaller level.

I doubt WWE just gave away the main event of Wrestlemania to Batista out of the goodness of their hearts. Everyone knows Mania is the biggest payday of the year and the payout is based where you are on the card. Bret talked about how his one paycheck paid for his mansion. Again, if he is the main event which at this point no one knows for sure. Yet, I doubt Batista is going to the Rumble to lose, but who knows. All I know is that most of the matches for Mania is going to be given to guys who barely work three months out of the year in the ring.

I am not going to cheerleader a company if I think they are wrong. Please feel free if you wish.


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#72 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.14

Most of what you say about WWE seems to be negative. I am not a cheerleader myself, and I certainly agree they often drop the ball, but I think some of the conclusions you've reached are a stretch. Yes, you're going to Mania but didn't you say you were going to leave during the Main Event (last year?). I don't think it's unreasonable to say you have a tendency to be dramatic. I'm just trying to understand your positions.

Triple H using Shawn as a corner-man against Brock was superfluous, but it still made the match more interesting than it would have been otherwise. I still don't it think fits into taking someone's spot. Brock has taken too many losses, but they're still paying him a truckload and leaving him off Mania would just be absurd. He doesn't need to win all the time to be over, he just needs a few weeks of beating people up and being his badass self. It's nice to have one legitimate ass-kicker around.

I don't think they want the Divas division to be taken seriously, and I honestly don't believe beating Snooki or Maria Menounos would make any difference. If they're going to use celebs the Diva match is the safest place to put them, as there is no division where the talent comes off as more interchangeable than that one. And Menounos I'm sure was scared off by getting shit on at the Hall of Fame by absurd dickheads. If this was Trish's day you'd have a point, but it's not. Sure, AJ's great but there isn't a single Diva you could put her opposite that would make a difference.

I still think the Streak is a money match and a major thing people buy Mania to see. I defy you to prove that's incorrect. One element of being a part-timer is their presence is special. Do you feel the same about Jericho?



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#73 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.31
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad

    Most of what you say about WWE seems to be negative. I am not a cheerleader myself, and I certainly agree they often drop the ball, but I think some of the conclusions you've reached are a stretch. Yes, you're going to Mania but didn't you say you were going to leave during the Main Event (last year?). I don't think it's unreasonable to say you have a tendency to be dramatic. I'm just trying to understand your positions.

    Triple H using Shawn as a corner-man against Brock was superfluous, but it still made the match more interesting than it would have been otherwise. I still don't it think fits into taking someone's spot. Brock has taken too many losses, but they're still paying him a truckload and leaving him off Mania would just be absurd. He doesn't need to win all the time to be over, he just needs a few weeks of beating people up and being his badass self. It's nice to have one legitimate ass-kicker around.

    I don't think they want the Divas division to be taken seriously, and I honestly don't believe beating Snooki or Maria Menounos would make any difference. If they're going to use celebs the Diva match is the safest place to put them, as there is no division where the talent comes off as more interchangeable than that one. And Menounos I'm sure was scared off by getting shit on at the Hall of Fame by absurd dickheads. If this was Trish's day you'd have a point, but it's not. Sure, AJ's great but there isn't a single Diva you could put her opposite that would make a difference.

    I still think the Streak is a money match and a major thing people buy Mania to see. I defy you to prove that's incorrect. One element of being a part-timer is their presence is special. Do you feel the same about Jericho?



    (edited by Hogan's My Dad on 30.12.13 1641)


There is nothing superflous to the wrestlers who watching the boss' best friend taking a part of their pay. Shawn added nothing to the match expect taking a bump which he got up in enough time to superkick Heyman. That was it. Lesnar is not a legit bad ass in the WWE. In real life and UFC he is. In WWE world, he is a guy who lost to Cena in three moves and lost to HHH at the biggest PPV of the year. He beat up HHH only for HHH to come back and kick his ass. He beat up Punk, but Punk in 2013 was very beatable for some reason. He didn't plow through the roster or really do anything great other than F5 Cena after Mania.

Fans are allowed to voice their opinion much like you are doing. If they want to shit on the celebrity, they can and maybe Vince can get the message, they are not wanted. AJ is great, so is Kaitlyn and Sara Del Ray who I have no idea why they haven't moved up. At one point in time, the Women's Division was the saving grace of Raw. It made money and can still make money.

The Steak is a money match as long as they have the right opponent and feud. Fans know Taker is not going to lose, so its ok if he beats up someone like Shawn or HHH and maybe even Lesnar. I do think if they pit him against someone like Bryan, its going to get dicey. Again, the fans were behind Punk even with all the shit with Paul Bearer which to me was horrendous. Taker should be in feuds with part timers who are there to cash a paycheck. It should be the alumni game.

I like Jericho, but he at least goes on for 4 to 5 PPVs. I wouldn't put him the main event.



(edited by lotjx on 30.12.13 1927)


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#74 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.97
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Meltzer has now apparently changed tack and stated that, while the Cena/Wyatt match is now more concrete part of their plans as of last week, it's not going to be the main event.


His gist was basically that Cena will be front and center in all advertising, but on the night, they would go last with Punk/HHH for the control of the company because it has HHH and Vince and the theoretical highest stakes possible, or HHH would decide that discretion is the better part of valor and he's not going to get burned by going after Undertaker yet again and that would go last.


    ...and they're hovering around matches that make no sense


Unfartunately, Batista/Orton would make sense as part of the rule that Evolution was the only angle that stays in permanent continuity for more than a year.

Here's where this card gets even wackier. Try to get to the matches we think/thought we were getting and include an apparent Brock Lesnar title shot (with a winner and loser, no Brock being carried off by druids and no bell) in between.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    The Streak is wearing thin on the fanbase


mr. lotjx you say a lot of things, and this is certainly one of them.

Batista is back in for a full-time schedule for a good while, FWIW.

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#75 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena, Undertaker vs John Cena... i know i keep saying it but it's Wrestlemania XXX so... Undertaker vs John Cena.





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#76 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.34
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro


    Batista is back in for a full-time schedule for a good while, FWIW.


Full-time, like on the road full-time? He's not the most resilient man when it comes to not tearing his muscles.
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#77 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Everyone knows Mania is the biggest payday of the year and the payout is based where you are on the card.


It's actually based on how much of a draw McMahon thinks you were at the time. While that usually means the biggest draws will be towards the end of the card, it's not given out to guys in the main event simply because they were in the main event.

The guys facing each other don't even share their match's payout 50/50. Even between them it's handed out based on however McMahon wants to. John Cena vs Daniel Bryan? People obviously paid more to see Cena than Bryan, so let's give Cena 70% and Bryan 30%.
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#78 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.97
    Originally posted by Alex
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro


      Batista is back in for a full-time schedule for a good while, FWIW.


    Full-time, like on the road full-time?


Yup.

This week's update doesn't have anything new, but one interesting wrinkle to pop the mizarks.

Dave has no idea where the Bryatt Family thing is going, other than Wyatt/Cena and the other three matches we've heard about are still the plan. Lesnar getting the next title shot is part of a detailed path to lead to the Brock/Undertaker match. Undertaker asked to work with Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania (!). There was concern that a Lesnar match might be too hard on Undertaker's body, and also that all the recent Taker matches have been heavily choreographed and practiced before Mania and Lesnar might be less willing to put all the rehearsal time in down at the Yard in Death Valley, TX.
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#79 Posted on
Word on the street is that Undertaker wants to work with Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania. I'm kinda conflicted. On the one hand, it would likely be a great match, it would "legitimize" Bryan (if he isn't legit already), and it's something we haven't seen before. On the other, it would seem to confirm that Bryan is joining the Wyatts as a heel (I see no merit in turning someone nobody wants to boo while they're at the peak of their popularity), and it would mean we're not getting Cena vs Undertaker, which is the biggest match they have left that they haven't run a bajillion times already. And this is supposed to be a milestone WrestleMania, ya know? It just makes sense to headline with the biggest possible match available to them. It would also mean no Daniel Bryan vs Shawn Michaels match.

If true, it's interesting that Undertaker would rather work with a smaller guy like Bryan than a Brock Lesnar/Batista type.



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#80 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.74
    Originally posted by TheGreatWhiteBob
    Word on the street is that Undertaker wants to work with Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania. I'm kinda conflicted. On the one hand, it would likely be a great match, it would "legitimize" Bryan (if he isn't legit already), and it's something we haven't seen before. On the other, it would seem to confirm that Bryan is joining the Wyatts as a heel (I see no merit in turning someone nobody wants to boo while they're at the peak of their popularity), and it would mean we're not getting Cena vs Undertaker, which is the biggest match they have left that they haven't run a bajillion times already. And this is supposed to be a milestone WrestleMania, ya know? It just makes sense to headline with the biggest possible match available to them. It would also mean no Daniel Bryan vs Shawn Michaels match.


I agree as far as Cena/Undertaker goes (and while I would love to see Daniel Bryan vs Shawn Michaels, I'd rather see Michaels remain retired.

I don't necessarily think Bryan needs to be heel to work against The Undertaker, though. If Undertaker walks out, gives a speech about how the streak means nothing if he isn't facing the best there is, and then calls out Bryan, they could do face vs face and the crowd would eat it up.

My question is... The Undertaker can pretty much do whatever he wants in the WWE. Most everyone says the Streak has reached a point where it should never be broken (and I agree) but what if Undertaker doesn't believe that? Mark Calloway is definitely old school, and the old school way says that you go out on your back. Granted, there have been plenty of instances to point to his ego apparently refusing to put certain people over, but that generally tends to be tied to his feelings about the individual, regardless of what's best for business. If there's anyone in the locker room today that would live up to 'Taker's ideals, I suspect it might be Bryan. Which is to say, I don't think the streak will be broken, but if it was going to happen, I could see Bryan being the one to do it.
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