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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.19
Is there ANY chance Shelton Benjamin could be cleared in time to wrestle AJ Styles?



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.43



(so probably no)



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.03
The Observer says the Finn Balor is in the Mania plans, just to mess my nice, straightforward card up. It also acknowledged and did not repudiate the strange rumor that

(spoiler tag because I'm not sure what level of hypothetical vs assumed reality we're on?)


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt would be the WWE Title match, and one of them would win the Royal Rumble.

I ... you know what, just do whatever, you absolute lunatics. Maybe very important that no matter what year, the SD title match is a complete afterthought.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

    Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar (Universal Title)
    John Cena vs. Samoa Joe (WWE Title)
    Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns (turn Roman LOL)
    Seth Rollins vs. Triple H
    Shane McMahon vs. AJ Styles
    Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens
    Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt
    Big Show and Shaq vs. Braun Strowman and friend (TWIST!)
    Bayley beating Charlotte in a match with or without friends
    assorted combos and multi-matches for all the other workaday wrestlers.


This all seems likely, for better or worse. I reckon Big Show/Shaq stays a singles match, and Strowman wins the ARMBAR.

Maybe they throw us a curveball and Balor winds up being the surprise Rumble winner that HHH alluded to, and a reportedly dog-housed Sami Zayn earns the title shot at Mania, giving us that one Wrestle Kingdom-worthy main event that they apparently want now they've learnt that fans respond positively to good matches between guys who can wrestle.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.43
When was the last time that cards were so unpredictable at this stage? A few days away from the Rumble and there are still a lot of realistic potential winners which is more than rare, and Mania with possibly 3 matches that are guaranteed out of probably 10 or 11 matches.

Have to say that I really like it - Hopefully I will still think the same after Rumble and then Mania!
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
Throw in Randy Orton as another possible winner. Rumor going around now is that Randy Orton could win the Rumble, Bray Wyatt then wins the Elimination Chamber and Orton vs. Wyatt is the WWE Championship match at Wrestlemania. I have to say I kind of like it. Cena and Styles are stars and Ambrose can always go back to the main event. If they elevate Orton back to main event status and move Wyatt, Miz and Corbin up too then you're suddenly looking at a pretty stacked Smackdown main event even though it was the perceived weaker roster.





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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Poor Smackdown. Poor AJ. Poor Cena. So with Joe and Undertaker being RAW guys now, it looks like the main Smackdown feuds going in to Mania are gonna be Orton vs Wyatt for the title that AJ dropped to Cena for Cena to drop in two weeks time to give the longest simmering feud on the card some additional stakes. Meanwhile, AJ gets rewarded for his hard work by having to sell the offensively bad offense of the boss' son, and Cena goes from equalling Flair's record in an all-time classic with the best wrestler on the roster to working with (most likely) Baron Corbin.

And what do they even do with Joe now that he's on RAW? If he faces Rollins at Fast Lane, then Rollins has to win to keep him strong for HHH at Mania. And then where does that leave Joe? Does he face off with Sami again? Do they turn Strowman face and have Braun vs Joe? Joe vs Balor for the 5th time in just over a year?



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
I'm guessing Joe/Balor is the Mania match, since they know those two work well together and there's a history.

Meltzer says whatever match Cena is in is a disappointment. These are the favorite rumors right now. I know these aren't spoilers, and if it's really that bad there's nothing to spoil, but just in case anyone's sensitive to speculation:


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
Cena-Corbin
Cena-Ziggler
Cena/Nikki-Miz/Maryse
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.43
There haven't been that many Rumbles and a Raw following it that leaves so many matches up in the air for Mania. Hopefully Smackdown tonight (or tomorrow morning for us British and Europeans!) will give us some more definates. I think that I like that, but there is also a part of me that wants to know where we are going to end up! Maybe I just want to be sure that the wrestlers that deserve it get what they deserve rather than just having matches with 'stars' thrown together.

It just seems strange that you could list Owens, Taker, AJ, Cena, Joe, HHH, Rollins, Reigns, Jericho, Strowman and Balor without absolute definite Mania matches. There are matches that might make sense, but I don't think you can class them as definates. If you had to give a must happen at Mania card who would you give, apart from Brock vs Goldberg and I have to assume HHH v Rollins?
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
Wow, if those spoilers SKLOKAZOID listed are the options then I say leave the belt on Cena and make the title match a Cena/Wyatt/Orton threeway (or even a 4-way with Styles if it gets him out of wrestling Shane). I'm not crazy about 3 and 4 ways at Wrestlemania but it's better than the other options.

Or, let Kurt wrestle. Bring up that Cena's first match was against Angle and turn that into a match at Wrestlemania.

Or heck, do something completely random. Give him a tag team partner and put over American Alpha. Or a six person Angle/Amercan Alpha vs. Cena/???/???

(edited by Quezzy on 31.1.17 1541)


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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.61
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I'm guessing Joe/Balor is the Mania match, since they know those two work well together and there's a history.

    Meltzer says whatever match Cena is in is a disappointment. These are the favorite rumors right now. I know these aren't spoilers, and if it's really that bad there's nothing to spoil, but just in case anyone's sensitive to speculation:


    Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
    Cena-Corbin
    Cena-Ziggler
    Cena/Nikki-Miz/Maryse


Wow. If there's anything to any of those options for Cena, I want to know who pulled a power play behind the scenes over the last few weeks, how did Cena lose that hard and was giving him the record-tying reign now a consolation prize for getting steamrolled that hard backstage?

(And as bad as it is for Cena, if those three options are all out there for him, is Dean Ambrose the guy with the least stroke/guy who cares least about his spot in the whole company?)
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Wow. If there's anything to any of those options for Cena, I want to know who pulled a power play behind the scenes over the last few weeks, how did Cena lose that hard and was giving him the record-tying reign now a consolation prize for getting steamrolled that hard backstage?

    (And as bad as it is for Cena, if those three options are all out there for him, is Dean Ambrose the guy with the least stroke/guy who cares least about his spot in the whole company?)
It's The Big Dog's time now, bro.

My guess is that Cena is making a movie and Taker's not up to the task of wrestling Cena in a special attraction match, so Taker's magic powers are being sacrificed to Reigns this year instead, and they figure Orton will be in a hotter title program to carry the belt post-Mania.

And yeah, Ambrose is getting screwed big time. Okay, he messed up in that Austin interview or whatever, but he shouldn't be getting the Ziggler treatment.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 31.1.17 1943)
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Wow, if those spoilers SKLOKAZOID listed are the options then I say leave the belt on Cena and make the title match a Cena/Wyatt/Orton threeway (or even a 4-way with Styles if it gets him out of wrestling Shane). I'm not crazy about 3 and 4 ways at Wrestlemania but it's better than the other options.


That AJ/Cena match was *a-fucking-mazing*. Best John Cena match I've seen. Didn't even swear when he won. They've got to do something more than a lame rematch loss, angry at 3rd party, go in their separate directions after that. Especially when those other directions are Windmill Shane and hell if I know what else. Surely, surely.



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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.81
Click Here (wwe.com) for some breaking news; apparently Rollins re-injured his knee.

This a worked injury, or a shoot injury? If the former this could be a way to get out of having Joe vs Rollins at Fastlane, which seemed like a lose/lose considering that Joe loses momentum of he loses and Rollins seems less credible if he loses. If it's the latter, changes a few things in the RAW picture if Rollins can't compete.

EDIT: Oh junk, it's confirmed as being legit. Click Here (pwinsider.com). Likely a freak injury, but potentially a huge loss as Triple H vs Rollins was to be a featured match on the card.

(edited by El Nastio on 1.2.17 1110)

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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
You think about all the crazy stuff Samoa Joe has done in wrestling and compare it to the relatively tame stuff he has been doing in WWE and you can't help but think that life is weird.

Since we can't have WrestleMania without a Triple H match I suggest he fight a fake Triple H or maybe just blue blood snob Hunter Hearst Helmsley who gets crammed into every video game Legends Pack.

Sucks for Seth.
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.61
I like that, per the source that seems to have broken this, the reaction inside the company has been "Yeah, anyway, Seth is dead, Pop, but what about my match, what do we have for me now?!"

So, how do you solve a problem like HHH?

Option 1: Samoa Joe (the elegant solution)
HHH brings out Joe on Raw to thank him for getting rid of Seth. Keeps on talking and talking. Joe side-eyes him the whole time, then turns around and wrecks him, says "You're welcome" and leaves him in the ring. Joe instantly becomes the ass-kicking tweener anti-hero the company so badly wants but is either not good enough or doesn't have the attention span to make again. HHH heals up, makes Angry HHH Faces, challenges Joe to a no-holds-barred rematch at WrestleMania, where Joe bulldozes him in 10 minutes without needing any weapons amidst "JOE'S GONNA KILL YOU!" chants that never even get a chance to die down.
Upsides: Joe gets over huge. HHH gets to "make" Joe. HHH gets to steal Cena's indy dream match to soothe his ego for losing.
Downsides: None, really, unless HHH grinds it out and ruins the match like he does at WrestleMania when the mood hits him, or decides at the last minute that he needs to go over For Reasons like he does at WrestleMania when the mood hits him.

Option 2: Dean Ambrose (the messier but equally good option)
HHH brings Joe out to thank him on Raw, but cryptically says he's not done yet. Joe later comes out and bulldozes Reigns, showing that Joe is HHH's catch-all solution for everyone who goes against him. Roman gets a sink-or-swim revenge match against Joe at WrestleMania, but before he does, the back-to-back attacks on Rollins and Reigns prove so troubling that Ambrose shatters the barriers between the brand split and shows up on Raw himself to attack HHH and Joe, setting up HHH vs. Ambrose II at WrestleMania.
Upsides: Joe vs. Roman could be absolutely great. We already know Ambrose vs. HHH is a good match, and this is the Mania match we should have gotten last year. Ambrose gets to retire HHH and, like, cut his face off with scissors or whatever Vince made him do to that dummy that time. The brand split sucks and is ignored.
Downsides: How do you book the JoeMan finish? Is there a way to double turn them? Look, I just want Joe to beat Roman up.

Option 3: Goldberg/Brock (the HHH Dream Scenario)
Goldberg and Brock continue to make faces at each other. HHH decides "I beat both of your asses before, now I'll beat both of your asses AT THE SAME DAMN TIME-UH." HHH beats Brock and Goldberg at WrestleMania, possibly pinning them both at once.
Upsides: This match sucked at WrestleMania over a decade ago, it'll suck at WrestleMania now. Let's quarantine all the suck together.
Downsides: Because HHH is in it, it somehow goes, like, 21 minutes even though Goldberg only has three minutes tops in the tank.

Option 4: Nakamura (the HHH Saw Wrestle Kingdom Scenario)
HHH remembers he brought over the one-time best wrestler in the world and then sat him in his vanity promotion for a years to stretch out his role as The NXT Man for a little while longer.
Upsides: They stop wasting Nakamura.
Downsides: HHH absolutely makes sure he upstages Nakamura's entrance. We get the HHH who has legendarily stunk out the joint in no fewer than three WrestleMania Main Events already and he does it again. Also, possibly he decides to win here and give Nakamura the win back on a lesser show, a classic HHH play.
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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
If only they'd have put Joe on Smackdown as logic dictated...




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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
How about no HHH match at Mania. Foley ships Joe to Smackdown for Eva Marie.



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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
Everybody's been saying Balor has nobody to wrestle so doesn't Joe vs. Balor make sense? They have a history from NXT and I'm sure they could work in HHH somehow.

The lastest rumor on Cena is that it WILL be a Cena/Nikki vs. Miz/Maryse match at WM and that it will be Nikki's last match. If that's true and Nikki wants a tag match with John as her last match then that's fair. Especially since Brie's last match was kind of thrown together and lame. Let Nikki go out how she wants to.



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.43
Rollins is really hurt and there's probably a real concern he's going to be at WM - but it also makes a great story if he can still somehow make it. If Rollins is out 4-6 weeks with a more minor knee, and still back in plenty of time for them not adjust the card, everything fine. Everything's going to be better than fine: Seth's would probably be a bigger face than if he had been on TV with HHH cutting promos and Joe beating him up every week. This situation could be a do-ever, an organic chance to really do the return from injury as a face storyline they dropped the ball on last year with him.

If I'm WWE or Rollins, I'd heavily tease the 4-6 months story going around, just to make it a bigger deal if he can still work in two months. (Conversely, if you're reading that news, you probably keep in the back of your mind that they may be playing up, at least until someone else is definitely in that spot.)



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