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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
Let's start this one early!

This is from Bryan Alvarez, we'll see if Meltzer has the same thing in a couple hours.


    At press time, and this could change a billion times and probably will, the direction they are working towards for next year is Cena vs. Undertaker with the streak on the line; Steve Austin vs. CM Punk, which both guys have been teasing on Twitter all week; and Rock vs. Brock Lesnar, presumably with Rock challenging for the WWE Title.
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The main event could be Mark Henry vs JBL and I'd still want to go to Wrestlemania.



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Not that those matches won't be very good to great, but the top three matches have a bunch of part timers and a guy coming out of retirement after being inactive. I'd like to see a guy like Ziggler elevated and given a chance for a big Wrestlemania moment and at best he'll be in the 4(h most important match next year
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.58
I agree that the overall problem of having none of this build up new guys aside from Punk is still glaring.

BUT!

All three angles/matches would be kind of elegantly built out of where things stand right now.

1) Cena lost his chance to prove himself as an all time great because he couldn't beat The Rock. The only thing he can do to save face now is the only thing that cannot be done: beat the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. This also allows Cena to assume he's a face while giving him a goal that nobody wants him to achieve.

2) Jericho will cause Punk to reaffirm his Straight Edge Code. Steve Austin loves beer. OK, maybe this one's not so elegant.

3) Rock and Cena fought to determine best ever, or at least to prove that The Rock is the best ever for having beaten Hogan, Austin and Cena at Wrestlemania. Brock Lesnar chased Stone Cold Steve Austin out of the business, wiped Hulk Hogan's blood across his chest and laughed about it, beat the Rock and knocked him out of wrestling and sent him running to Hollywood and routinely slapped John Cena around like a punk, then quit because he had nothing left to prove. That is all.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.56
I fully expect some of these plans to change. Lesnar sticking around is expected, but no one can really assume anything given his health issues.

I'm going to be very curious to see how this Punk/Austin program happens, given that they're both guys that nobody's going to want to boo.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    1) Cena lost his chance to prove himself as an all time great because he couldn't beat The Rock. The only thing he can do to save face now is the only thing that cannot be done: beat the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. This also allows Cena to assume he's a face while giving him a goal that nobody wants him to achieve.

Cena's going to be losing a lot this year and this is going to be his last gasp. I love this scenario.

But again, can we safely assume Undertaker's going to be around next year? What's to stop him from walking away at 20-0 (a nice round number), given how broken down his body is?

More than anything, this doesn't account for the intangible element of who's going to break out over the course of the next 12 months? Nobody could have seen Punk's rise coming. If there's a similar phenomenon this year, I could see some of these plans changing.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
The only one that doesn't sit well with me is Rock vs Brock, if it's for the title. Do that on the 10-year anniversary of SummerSlam 2002 this year.

I guess the thinking there is they can take two big crossover stars with a past and pair them up for the added name draw, but I'm not really feeling it. Maybe if they got the HHH vs Undertaker slot and it wasn't for a belt. It just feels very "WCW" to bring the title focus around two guys from a decade ago.

I'd rather see UT/Cena or Punk/Austin be for a belt because those matches involve the WWE contemporaries.

But, hey, we're one year out and it's crazy (unless they actually announce it like last year) to say this is what it'll be in a year.

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As much as I would love to see Punk vs. Austin. Its sorta playing outright now with Jericho. Punk calling Taker out for making his match the most important match thus devaluing the titles at Mania is damn interesting. Also, if anyone really needs to cement himself by ending the streak to become a legend, Punk is the one to do it. Rock/Brock is pretty much a given if not here than at SummerSlam. Either way, I am going to do my damnedest to be there this year even if the main event is Vickie vs. Eve.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
Don't forget, WWE will also want to do something special for the 'anniversary' edition of Wrestlemania 30, so I could see them saving something big like an Austin return or Cena/Taker for that show. Cena once said during an interview that his dream match was Taker at MSG at WM30, so it's very possible that dream could happen.

Could we see something ROCK challenge the Streak? Like, say he wins the title at some point this year. After losing it (at Royal Rumble), he says he's achieved all his goals in wrestling....cue the gong.



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Streak match, 'Once in a Lifetime II' Legend vs Star match, WWE Championship match.. there seems to be a main event missing here...

Give me about 18 seconds to think about it.

Considering what happened in Miami, Team Johnny taking over both shows, the Supershow concept killing the midcard - are we up for a championship unification match at SummerSlam along the way? I think the factor arguing against this around Stamford would be that they want a champion to headline both houseshow groups.

I'm not sure how Punk/Austin works for build purposes. Austin plays Austin in any case, but I don't see Punk going back to heel this soon. And they really have their strongest appeal from the same corner of the WWE fanbase.

If they go down this path, imagine the heat Rock would have from returning to beat Cena clean this year, then beat Lesnar clean at WM 29 for the (unified?) WWE Championship? I don't think anyone here would imagine Rock taking off from his movie career for more than a four month, once-around-the-houseshow-circuit tour before dropping the belt. But to whom? Might that be the time for Cena to finally go full monster-heel and get his win back? Can you see Vince putting anyone else in that spot, to get that rub?



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I'm thinking we'll see Summer of Punk II with Punk turning heel because he tried to play nice and he became what he hated. He's already mentioned that he hated that Rock got to main event Mania. Not much of a stretch to see him going after all the Attitude era guys who keep coming back. Especially if he were to lose the belt to Brock.

Dunno about the Taker thing. Because 20 is such a nice number. If he's gonna keep going, then he needs to go to 25. I suppose it is possible, but are there even that many credible challengers left? I could see Cena and Rock. Maybe Brock.

Don't really care about Rock Vs. Brock.
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It is dangerous for the company long term to put much of the attention on guys who are only part timers at best for most of the top spots on the biggest card. And, isn't the match that builds itself Austin vs. Lesnar, dating back to the night Austin took his ball and went home and then Austin being the ref the Mania where the fans shit on Lesnar on his way out of town?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.99
That's all insider stuff that take far too much explaining. Punk/Austin, ESPECIALLY if Punk goes heel, would be amazing and would write itself.
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    That's all insider stuff that take far too much explaining. Punk/Austin, ESPECIALLY if Punk goes heel, would be amazing and would write itself.


You know turning Punk heel maybe the worst move this company could make right now. They have a champion that is getting positive response from the crowd and selling a ton of merchandise. If they are terrified beyond the capacity of rational thought to turn Cena, you would think turning Punk would be inconceivable. I do think Punk going back to being tweener after they finish the Laurantis storyline would make more sense. I would actually like to see Punk/Brock for the title or Brock/Rock not for the title. I also do think a title unification match is coming. Punk and Bryan had such a great series of matches, it would be a shame not to have an ending like at SummerSlam. Cena/Brock at SummerSlam, Punk/Bryan, maybe a cameo appearance by Rock or Rock/Miz or Rock/Dolph. Then at Mania due Cena/Taker, Brock/Punk, Rock/Austin one last time. Have Rock/Austin in the Taker/HHH spot and Brock/Punk as the main event.

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    Originally posted by lotjx
    You know turning Punk heel maybe the worst move this company could make right now.


I agree, he is doing fine as he is and he is the type of main event babyface that can build interest with the older crowd that WWE has lost during the Cena years.


    I would actually like to see Punk/Brock for the title or Brock/Rock not for the title. I also do think a title unification match is coming. Punk and Bryan had such a great series of matches, it would be a shame not to have an ending like at SummerSlam. Cena/Brock at SummerSlam, Punk/Bryan, maybe a cameo appearance by Rock or Rock/Miz or Rock/Dolph. Then at Mania due Cena/Taker, Brock/Punk, Rock/Austin one last time. Have Rock/Austin in the Taker/HHH spot and Brock/Punk as the main event.


I would love to see all of that except for another Rock/Austin match. They've faced each other in high-profile matches often enough, and this one would be 10 years after the last one, which is just silly. I don't really want to see Austin wrestle at all anymore, but I'd love to see him take on a protege or be a guest ref or something.

Lesnar's only been back for about 3 minutes of TV time, but his return has already been a success for me since it makes thinking about future plans so much more interesting.
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The guy who could benefit the most from working with Lesnar? Swagger. In lieu of Angle, Swagger can mooch off of Lesnar's experience. Ziggler was also a collegiate wrestler, but his ring style is much more flamboyant than Swagger's, and Swagger can't hit those notes. I do not think Swagger/Lesnar is a dream match you understand.

Lesnar/Taker seems the way to go, although I'm of the mind that Taker should retire the streak now (stop working Mania) and move to other PPVs so his streak isn't an issue.

If I'm thinking of a Mania dream match myself, it's Bryan/Punk.



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Maybe Brock squashes Punk in 18 seconds at Summerslam? That would really put him and the F5 over, right?



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Lesnar/Taker seems the way to go, although I'm of the mind that Taker should retire the streak now (stop working Mania) and move to other PPVs so his streak isn't an issue.

I would go the other way. At this point he probably only has one or two matches per year in him, so save it for the one show per year where he has extra meaning. Undertaker on Smackdown in June or some random fall PPV is just a guy appearing. Undertaker at Mania is something that, regardless of how I feel about his last two matches, gets the crowd going like little else can.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.65
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      That's all insider stuff that take far too much explaining. Punk/Austin, ESPECIALLY if Punk goes heel, would be amazing and would write itself.


    You know turning Punk heel maybe the worst move this company could make right now.


I wasn't advocating turning unk next week or anything, but for the three-month build to WrestleMania, against arguably the biggest babyface in the company's history? Yes, I think him working heel a la HBK against Hogan would be absolutely killer.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.24
What's the expected hit rate for this sort of thing? If there was a thread like this last year, I can not find it.

It obviously would not have included either Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan (though Sheamus in a title match was not a big stretch.)

Chris Jericho vs CM Punk would not have been on the list. Last April was about the start of the rumors of Punk leaving and Jericho wasn't not a certain to return yet.

Cena vs Rock was made right away, but it actually happened and there were thoughts they might jump the gun. That's one!

The one thread I can find is guessing the Undertaker's opponent, where most people thought it was going to be Cena until RAW actually aired and then most people figured out it was going to be HHH vs Cena (points to TheOldMan for calling Hell in the Cell first).

I think the lesson is it's possible to accurately assume matchups featuring barely active wrestlers a year ahead of time, especially if they announce it a year ahead of time, but the rest is a wild guess.



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Could probably pencil in Batista somewhere, as I still think he shows up within the next few months ... maybe an Evolution triple threat would be the way to go ... Orton needs a big WM win.

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