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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.99
Good movie, worth seeing if you're a Star Wars fan or even if you just like sci-fi war/action movies.

It took a while for it to "feel" like a Star Wars movie for me with no opening title crawl and no John Williams score (there are pieces of it and even hints of it throughout).

The opening third of the movie is a tad clunky in that it sets up the situation of why Galen Erso helps Krennic build the Death Star in the first place. I found his reasoning for helping a bit fuzzy since Jyn was successfully hidden from Krennic. If he wanted to sabotage the Death Star why not rig it to blow up when actually fired since he and the rest of the engineers weren't even on board when it was fired for the 1st time? (of course the REAL reason is that the weakness was already laid out 39 years ago in the original Star Wars).

The final third of the movie is where things REALLY pick up and it feels like a Star Wars movie to me at least with the small band of heroes fighting against impossible odds to complete the mission and get us to the point of A New Hope.

I liked all the new rebel characters we were introduced to and because you sort of know that they're on a suicide mission given that we've not seen any mention of them in Original Trilogy movies/supplemental materials you're not really surprised when they die. However, their deaths still have some impact, particularly the blind Chirrut Imwe. I was a bit surprised they didn't leave some possible "out" for Jyn & Cassian, but their deaths looked pretty definite as well.

I was expecting not to really like Imwe based on the trailers but was pleasantly surprised that his death made me feel the most sad.

K-2SO was another highlight and got most of the best lines in the movie.

The use of digital CGI or whatever so we could see Tarkin and Princess Leia was kind of creepy. It was certainly noticeable, but you kind of have to accept it because they almost had to do it to serve A New Hope.

I didn't care for the "cutsie" cameos of Dr. Evazan, Ponda Baba, R2-D2 & C-3PO. They took me right out of the movie especially since you have to just accept Evazan and Baba made it off Jedha before the temple ruins were ruined further by the Death Star and that the droids must have hurried up to get on the main rebel command ship so they could also end up on the Tantive IV at the end. They were just too "cute" for me. The Gold & Red Leader shots they used were fine with me however. You have to assume they were some of the best of the best pilots the Alliance had and would have been in this battle too. The Red 5 pilot getting skragged was a bit too "cute" too.

I'm surprised we got as much Vader as we did. It was nice to see him really cut loose on those Rebel troopers but you would think he could have just used The Force to get the plans before they could be handed off. There were pockets of applause when he did The Force Choke on Krennic (I was not one of them).

All in all a good movie. Certainly worth seeing. No post credits scene (not that I expected one, but I stayed after just in case).



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.42
I mostly agree--I found it a lot of fun. The fact that we knew the characters' fates, but also knew that their mission would ultimately succeed--helped give it resonance for me. I also think it helps fix the plot hole in New Hope and adds some emotion to that as well. The humor worked, too. Definitely more to my liking than the derivative Force Awakens.

BTW, Leia is actually a new actress. So is Mon Mothma, where they really found a great lookalike; apparently she was cast in Revenge of the Sith but her scenes were cut (something I saw said she can be briefly seen at one point). Tarkin is CGI, which I actually thought worked OK, but clearly the tech isn't perfect yet.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.99
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    BTW, Leia is actually a new actress. So is Mon Mothma, where they really found a great lookalike; apparently she was cast in Revenge of the Sith but her scenes were cut (something I saw said she can be briefly seen at one point). Tarkin is CGI, which I actually thought worked OK, but clearly the tech isn't perfect yet.


My apologies to the actress as I thought it was more creepy/awful CGI! (In my defense I forgot my glasses and just assumed)



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.13
It was a bit darker than I expected. I took my son to see The Force Awakens last year but I really think this would traumatize him.

That final Vader scene was fantastic.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.65
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    BTW, Leia is actually a new actress. So is Mon Mothma, where they really found a great lookalike; apparently she was cast in Revenge of the Sith but her scenes were cut (something I saw said she can be briefly seen at one point). Tarkin is CGI, which I actually thought worked OK, but clearly the tech isn't perfect yet.

Both Tarkin and Leia are CGI. Their body actors are listed in the credits, but the faces are all digital. It was so "Battlefront on PS4" that it was jarring. That said, it did not taint my opinion of the movie, which I absolutely loved.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.03
I loved the CGI characters. I thought the Tarkin appearances were great. The movie was so much better than Force Awakens. It felt like the best version of Star Wars in awhile. The characters were given a lot to do and felt important. Just a great all around.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's my favorite Star Wars movie. (Not the BEST of each, that's still Empire). Loved it.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
I liked it better than Force Awakens. The pacing was really weird in the first half. I didn't know what planet I was on half the time, but it all built to a fun third act.

I had less of a problem with Tarkin than I did with Leia at the end. I thought "Hope." was too cheesy and I felt like Leia is a lot less pie-in-the-sky as a character to say something like that. Still appreciated the ending and found it to be a great bridge from the prequels to the OT.

The characters were a little flat in spots, but I found them a lot more grounded than the mysterious and undefined Rey who we still know nothing about. Jyn was cool, felt real peril in spots which I never got with Rey.

Really enjoyed Krennic as a villain. Enjoyed the insight into the Empire and the in-fighting there.

Overall, not perfect, but a thumbs up and a fun experience.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.18
So, I've hit the old lame dad stage of my life. I went in thinking that this was the next movie in the series and stayed somewhat confused until I actually looked up where this movie was supposed to be in the order of things. Oohhhhh. If I had known that going in the first half hour or so would have made a lot more sense. That being said, this was a bunch of Star Wars guys doing Star Wars shit and I can solidlybget behind that. Plus I got to be surprised by the return of one of my favorite characters Tarkin, who's death was a much bigger blow to the Empire than people give credit, and Darth Vader who are much better heels than that emo guy from the last movie.

I love side story Star Wars. This was fun.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
I think the thing I liked most about this was, there wasn't any real participation of the "regulars" in this. It was 100% story driven. No wondering about Luke/Leah and their Force powers. No worries in general about Darth Vader. No Yoda. Just a good story with a lot of action that tied together the holes between Episodes 3 and 4.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco


    I love side story Star Wars. This was fun.


It was fun action, but I couldn't care as much with all these brand new people. I cared more when it was Luke, Han, and Chewie. Could have been more comic relief.

I know weak stormtroopers is a thing, but it got ridiculous after a while. Why do they even bother wearing armor?

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    So, I've hit the old lame dad stage of my life. I went in thinking that this was the next movie in the series and stayed somewhat confused until I actually looked up where this movie was supposed to be in the order of things. Oohhhhh. If I had known that going in the first half hour or so would have made a lot more sense. That being said, this was a bunch of Star Wars guys doing Star Wars shit and I can solidlybget behind that. Plus I got to be surprised by the return of one of my favorite characters Tarkin, who's death was a much bigger blow to the Empire than people give credit, and Darth Vader who are much better heels than that emo guy from the last movie.

    I love side story Star Wars. This was fun.


So you're saying you need3d tbat opening credits scroll too? I knew what it was going in, but that would have been helpful to at least reference some characters.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
A scroll wouldnt have nmattered because there was nothing to tell yet.none of the characters had done anything yet.
At most it could've said "20 years after Padme gave birth to Anakin and Leia...but this is not their story."

The lack of scroll pulled me out of my seat right away.
Wow! This is different! For me it implied the movie was gonna be something new and alternative and it was.

During and before the battle on the beacg I got more of a war movie vibe instead of an adventure which SW mostly is.loved that.
And i loved how it ties up the biggest hole in the movies ever."the death star was designed to be destroyed by one single bomb" awesome!

And I did find myself caring for the characters to the point that I teared up when I realized npne of them would survive.

The last sequence was great too btw.the blueprints being handed down until reaching Leia with Vader on the trail.
Nice bridge to A new hope where you know now how she got them and tried to flee but failed. Diplomatic missipn my ass. He saw you escape the space battle!
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
This was more of a prequel that Episodes I-III... but I can see why they didn't want to mention that particular word in their marketing efforts.

Loved that the final act was essentially "Star Wars Battlefront: the Movie". I about pee'd myself when Red Leader and Gold Leader showed up...and then the Y-Wings were actually bombing! Wow, they spent their credits well, with a good mix of vehicles AND unit upgrades.

Aside from Jyn's story and introduction, the rest of the opening sequences were a little jarring. Mainly because it was tough to figure who the faces and heels were. Andor killed somebody and Saw Gerrera's guys seemed like leftovers from Jabba the Hutt. But now that I've seen the whole story, I want to go back and re-watch the first 30 minutes or so.

While I'll see the Han Solo and Boba Fett flicks, the spin-off movie I really want is Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus (had to look up their names, as I called them "Blind Guy" and "Blind Guy's Friend with the Big Gun" throughout the movie). Those two were awesome. Right now, they're tied for third on my Most Favoritest Star Wars Guys List (behind Chewbacca and Yoda, naturally).

The ending makes Leia seem tougher than she was. I mean, she was sent into battle on this mission. It also makes her reunion with the Rebel honchos at Yavin IV, during "Episode IV", a little more significant. To dMp's point, I've seen several (fan) explanations on the Internets regarding the Tantive IV, "diplomatic mission" and the exact timeframe between the ending of "Rogue One" and "Episode IV". I personally like to think that the "diplomatic mission" line was a standard, flimsy, last-ditch excuse they were all told. "Ever get pulled over by the Imperials: you tell them you're on a diplomatic mission, no matter what. We're martyrs, dammit!"

Also read that the Tantive was number four and there a whole slew of those ships...so Vader could've spent awhile tracking it down. Days or weeks. Depending on how many future video game storylines you want to cram in there. Either way, the lead-in to "Episode IV" was great and I was 100% satisfied.

I miss Admiral Raddus already.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
I finally went and saw it! It was okay, dawg. My daughter was bored an hour into it.

I liked Force Awakens better, but I really, really liked Force Awakens.

I loved seeing Darth just smash people.

K-2SO was the best character in the entire movie.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.07


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
Question about this: who was the other prisoner that the Rebels broke out of the transport, with Jyn? Kinda' stocky guy with a buzz-cut. I thought he may have returned as a soldier in the final battle, but I couldn't tell if it was the same guy.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.18
I just saw the movie again. I really enjoyed this more the second time, and I was pretty happy with it the first time.
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