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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.53

    So how would a full helmet and mask not have prevented a broken jaw and broken nose?


Full helmet might've helped, but it's still basically just a visor on your face. And helmets are there more to protect against cranial injuries than cosmetic facial injuries.


    Had he jumped out of a plane with no parachute, would we pity him?


Probably if he was pushed. Or ... knocked out of the plane because a car pulled in front of him. And if jumping out of planes was a very common form of transportation.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07

    Originally posted by BigFredMachine
    Every time I see a jackoff on a bike with a half helmet (and worse, shorts and t-shirt) whizz around cars, I hope for them to do a Pete Rose slide under a bus.

    This is no different. Had he jumped out of a plane with no parachute, would we pity him? No. That's not illegal either, and it sure as hell is retarded. F*** him.


This is essentially the same arguement as "the people in New Orleans live in an area below sea level, so they deserved what they got".

That said, helmets should be mandatory.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
Probably going boating without a life preserver is a better analogy. Of course, a lot of people that boat do only the minimum of what the law requires there as well (which generally is that you must have a life preserver, but you don't have to wear it).

I would like to think that if I were making the kind of bucks Big Ben was making, I would have the wherewithal to at least try to cut down on truly risky activities like riding a motocycle without a helmet (or maybe riding one at all). I would like to think I would realize that my earning potential is high right now, but will be shortlived, so I need to "protect my investment" which would be my body. There's a lot of room between living in a bubble and doing truly stupid things.

That said, it's Ben's life and he can live however he chooses. And to be fair, when we were all younger and riding bicycles, the smart, safe thing to do was to ride wearing helmets and pads. But how many of us can truly say that we did that? How many of us would have been caught dead with the proper equipment?



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    I don't understand why people criticize Roethlisberger for "taking such a big risk" ... I don't think he's a dumbass; I can completely understand why he would do something like this.


Hmm...can I take that back? Now it looks like Ben was riding the bike with no liscense (sports.espn.go.com).


*Now* I think he's a dumbass.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.53
Learner's permit that was *only* less than 3 months expired, which is ... no, just kidding.

The Post-Gazette reports that his 'only' injuries were

Broken upper and lower jaw;
Mild concussion;
Fractured nose;
Multiple head cuts and bumps and bruises;
Two lost teeth;
Several other chipped teeth.

So no major brain trauma and no knee damage, which is about as good as it could've turned out for him. Obviously a very lucky dude. Even moreso in that, astoundingly, he's not expected to miss any playing time.


(edited by JustinShapiro on 13.6.06 1711)
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.79
F'N SHAPIRO: blah blah blah blah

Just admit the season is down the TUBES, dude. As a matter of fact - GO FISH!

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.99
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    The Post-Gazette reports that his 'only' injuries were

    Broken upper and lower jaw;
    Mild concussion;
    Fractured nose;
    Multiple head cuts and bumps and bruises;
    Two lost teeth;
    Several other chipped teeth.

    So no major brain trauma and no knee damage, which is about as good as it could've turned out for him.


I guess he won't be gracing many magazine covers anytime soon.

The moral of this story, I guess, is that if you ride a motorcycle without a helmet AND without a license, then you too can wind up looking like Michael Strahan.






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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.54

    I guess he won't be gracing many magazine covers anytime soon.


*Or* he could end up even HOTTER.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    So no major brain trauma and no knee damage, which is about as good as it could've turned out for him. Obviously a very lucky dude. Even moreso in that, astoundingly, he's not expected to miss any playing time.


I've heard that, too. Except, how in the heck can anyone know this? Who knows when he'll be able to eat solid food again, leading to how much weight loss? He broke his upper and lower jaw, yet he's supposed to be ready to get hit by 315 lb. defensive lineman, or blitzing 255 lb. linebackers from the blindside, in less than 3 months time? Sorry, I'm not buying it until I see him back on the field.

What sort of a facemask contraption will he have to wear for protection on the field?
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53

    I've heard that, too. Except, how in the heck can anyone know this? Who knows when he'll be able to eat solid food again, leading to how much weight loss? He broke his upper and lower jaw, yet he's supposed to be ready to get hit by 315 lb. defensive lineman, or blitzing 255 lb. linebackers from the blindside, in less than 3 months time? Sorry, I'm not buying it until I see him back on the field.


As someone who had full upper/lower maxillofacial surgery (planned rather than accidental) at about the same age, I can tell you a few things. First off, they've got a couple of choices as to how to put the jaw back together depending on how badly it's broken and what the target healing time is. I had the full-meal-deal involving permanent wires (think of twist-ties) in my jaw and 7 weeks of being completely wired shut. There is, however, a way to do it with plates and screws which isn't as foolproof in many ways, but does reduce the wiring time to 3-4 weeks. My understanding is that athletes often get this, even though it's more prone to problems.

In my 7 weeks, I went from 210lbs/12%bf to 165lbs/8%bf. I tried to remain active, and I was hitting the protein in a big way, but you can't do any kind of real workout for the first three weeks at least. And after that, you still can't do any heavy lifting or anything else that significantly increases tension in your face.

I will be surprised if he's properly fit for the start of the season. But I think you'll see him back to his pre-accident fitness, if not weight by October, which should be enough to at least make a reasonable playoff run. It will also be interesting to see whether he tries to stay a little smaller; it might be an interesting experiment to try.

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Espn.com is reporting that Big Ben to be cited for riding without helmet, permit


    Only licensed motorcyclists are allowed to ride bareheaded in Pennsylvania, with certain restrictions.


(edited by Zeruel on 19.6.06 1535)



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