I saw it today. There's nothing I like more than when a great series gets a proper sendoff, rather than churning out sequel after sequel until they just stop making them. Rocky deserved a better send-off than Rocky V and he got it with this one.
Despite Rocky V not being as great as the others, it was still the perfect movie to set up Rocky VI. There's a scene where he's trying to get his license back which wouldn't be the same if we didn't see what forced him out in the last movie. Plus, his relationship with his son has more depth because we've been with them through ups and downs before.
The stuff I liked best, aside from the great character sendoffs, was the way they made the fight feel authentic. It felt exactly like modern-day boxing matches would feel, right down to the GoldenPalace.com logos being plastered all over everything.
Worth seeing. Definitely in the top 50-percentile of the franchise.
Saw this movie last night, and man, this IS the sendoff Rocky deserved. I'd say I liked this one behind Rocky I and II, and thats no knock on the new film, as I hold Rocky I and II in high regard. Really inspirational, and VERY moving at times. Whats beautiful about the movie are the little things they do to exemplify certain aspects of the character. Without spoiling anyone, for example like Rocky storing a chair in the tree (sounds crazy when I type it, but when you see it, you'll know what I mean).
Originally posted by The GoonI was kinda hoping Gazzo (Rocky's old loan shark boss) would show up as well.
I've always looked forward to see what happened to Gazzo, which I'm sure would've happened in Rocky V or VI, but the actual actor died awhile back in 1989
Just saw it. Sorry to keep the thread alive, heh, but I'd like to give my two cents.
Great movie. That scene where Rocky and Paulie talk about Adrian being dead in the factory, whatever job Paulie had, was just brutal. I think Stallone's "kill one per film" thing gets a little old, but here it was necessary to give the film the emotional tone it needs to be effective cinema.
One thing that bothered me. If Rocky has calcium deposits in his joints and can't do road work because his knees are so bad, the LAST thing he should be doing is weight training. Boxers do not train with weights. And someone Rocky's age really shouldn't as it would only further compromise his already diminished flexibility and endurance. A little thing...Most people wouldn't notice or care, but yeah.
Anyway, a great film. The people in my theatre actually applauded when the training montage began, and at the end when Rocky's taking his kudos. I did too. It was kinda like seeing the text-scroll in Revenge of the Sith---I knew it wasn't the same as being there originally, being part of that first generation to experience something legendary, but this was as close as I was going to get and there was something historic-feeling about it. It really was a fitting end. The scenes between Rocky and his son in the street, the aforementioned scene with Paulie, and his speech at the commission when they won't renew his license are all very well-written. Rocky's a bit more philosophical than we're used to, but that's okay. He's older, and ought to be wiser too. Fight scene, all things considered, was great too. As KaneRobot points out, they do explain it away nicely, that along with "puncher's chance".
It was OK - probably the third best next to I and III (I hated II). The main thing is if Rocky is "life is about perservering through hardships" Rocky Balboa is "PERSERVERE THROUGH LIFE'S HARDSHIPS!!!!! THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!!!" In short, a little less melodrama and being beat over the head with the theme - I mean, what the hell else were we supposed to think this movie was going to be about?
While I give the movie props for the realistic fight scenes and characters, (although the Tyson cameo was a bit contrived, I wonder how much he banked for that) which were really cool, as a fight fan, two nipicky points:
#1 - apparently Oscar de la Hoya was promoting Rocky. Anyone else catch that?
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the scores are wrong!!! It was 96-95 on all the judges (who were the names of real judges by the way) cards, one way for Balboa, two for Dixon. Given the fact that the first round was 10-7 for Dixon (two knockdowns), the last round was 10-8 for Dixon, and the second round was 10-8 for Balboa, there's no way for Balboa to get to 96 points. I might not have gotten the exact amount/rounds right, but the point is that with that many knowckdowns the scores won't ever get that high without at least a ton of 10-10 rounds. They got so much else realistic, it drove me a little nuts they didn't spend 5 minutes to figure out what the scores would be in reality.
Man's most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe. - Euripides
I'll bump this thread up to encapsulate tonight's episode. For all of the dick-measuring between Russell and Rob about who was the best Survivor ever, let's not forget that Sandra (unlike those two) actually has a title to her name.