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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.01
This looks like one of the better WWE products. Seems like a LOT of old school footage, plus is that Jim Crocket in the video?
I haven't bought a WWE DVD since the WCCW one came out, but this one is a must have!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m2V8OL0SC0ED7W/ref=flash_player_2_preplay
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.42
First, the obligatory Amazon link (The W at Amazon)...

Here's a cut-n-paste of the contents:


    Documentary chapters:

    Jim Crockett Promotions
    Georgia Championship Wrestling
    Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling
    Black Saturday
    The Expansion
    Crockett Sells to Turner
    Greatest Talent in the World
    New Management
    Bill Watts Era
    Bill Shaw Hires Eric Bischoff
    Hulk Hogan Arrives
    Nitro Debuts
    nWo
    Cruiserweights
    Goldberg
    WCW Ratings Champ
    Celebrities
    Goldberg vs. Hogan
    Mistakes Begin
    Vince Russo
    A Corporate Merger
    McMahon buys WCW
    Legacy of WCW

    Bonus features:

    * Lost in Cleveland (Cactus Jack vignette)
    * Bill Watts Defends Himself
    * Spam Man
    * The Origin of Goldberg
    * Bischoff Gives Away RAW Results

    Matches:

    $1,000 Challenge Match
    Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A.
    NWA World Championship Wrestling - June 15, 1985

    Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (w/ JJ Dillon)
    The Main Event - April 3, 1988

    United States Championship Match
    Dusty Rhodes vs. Barry Windham
    Great American Bash - July 10, 1988

    NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Ricky `The Dragon' Steamboat
    Chi-Town Rumble - February 20, 1989

    The Rock `n' Roll Express vs. The Midnight Express
    Wrestle War - February 25, 1990

    NWA United States Tag Team Championship Match
    The Midnight Express vs. The Southern Boys
    Great American Bash - July 7, 1990

    WCW World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
    SuperBrawl - May 19, 1991

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Sting vs. Big Van Vader
    Great American Bash - July 12, 1992

    WCW International World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Rick Rude vs. Sting
    Spring Stampede - April 17, 1994

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan
    Bash at the Beach - July 17, 1994

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. The Giant
    Nitro - April 29, 1996

    WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
    Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko
    Clash of the Champions XXXIII - August 15, 1996

    War Games Match
    Team WCW- Sting, Lex Luger, Ric Fair & Arn Anderson vs. Team n.W.o.- Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & a Mystery Partner
    Fall Brawl - September 15, 1996

    United States Championship Ladder Match
    Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
    Souled Out - January 25, 1997

    United States Championship No Disqualification Match
    Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko
    Uncensored - March 16, 1997

    WCW Cruiserweight Championship Title vs. Mask Match
    Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera
    SuperBrawl VIII - February 22, 1998

    WCW Unified World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders
    SuperBrawl VIII - February 22, 1998

    Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman
    Bash at the Beach - July 12, 1998

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page
    Halloween Havoc - October 25, 1998

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Booker T vs. Lance Storm
    Nitro - August 7, 2000


Right now it's $31.49 for a preorder - that price is a ripoff compared to $19.80 at WWEShop (wweshop.com) - they also have some special packages: for $26.99 you can get the DVD PLUS a "retro nWo T-shirt" - OR for $22.99 you can get the DVD with a copy of Eric Bischoff's "Controversy Creates Cash" - now THAT'S tempting!



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.79
Wasn't this on WWEDemand channel not to long ago for a couple of bucks? Anyway now I could probably find a lot of this on Y-Tube for no cost. Credit CRZ for the contents.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
Can we go out on the limb and state that if Foley hadn't left the company, Lost In Cleveland would not be anywhere near this DVD?
Match selection really doesn't inspire me to make the purchase. Far too little JCP, and why would anyone want the Rodman/Karl Malone match to see the light of day again?
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.56
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Why would anyone want the Rodman/Karl Malone match to see the light of day again?


Well, '...the Fall' is right there in the title.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.45
Read it and weep, fella


Didnt I read a few months ago that Bischoff declined to be apart of this DVD? Seems really incomplete without him. I'll prolly still get it though.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.31
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    why would anyone want the Rodman/Karl Malone match to see the light of day again?


I believe that was the second biggest match in WCW history, and I think Hogan/Sting was on another DVD already.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.94
As far as I can tell, only one of these matches is already on a compilation DVD that I own, that being the War Games '96 match, which was on nWo: Back in Black.

Having said that... Hogan v. Sting at Starrcade '97 was indeed on the Best of Starrcade DVD that was just released, so that's probably why it didn't get on this one. (I wouldn't have minded seeing their rematch from SuperBrawl VIII for the vacant title, though.)

Of course, if this were a perfect world I'd like to see the finale of Booker T and Chris Benoit's "Best of 7" series (which ended in eight matches); or Benoit winning the U.S. Title from David Flair; or the triple-threat between him, Page and Raven...

(I know. Keep dreaming.)

I can say with authority that the ladder match from Souled Out '97, in which Eddie Guerrero defended the U.S. Title against Syxx (who had physical possession of the belt), is fantastic. If I'm not too much mistaken, this is the first match from that pay-per-view ever released on a WWE DVD. (Not that I've taken the time to look through eight years worth of catalog titles.) The Souled Out '97 atmosphere was... well, "bizarre" doesn't quite do it justice.

The Booker T vs. Lance Storm match for the World Title should be quite interesting to see, too. Storm, of course, was a triple-champion at that point, holding the United States, Cruiserweight, and Hardcore Championships concurrently. (Which he renamed the Canadian, 100 KG and Under, and Saskatchewan Hardcore International Titles, respectively.)

I'm there, even though my protest about the continued whitewashing of you-know-who has been registered.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Can we go out on the limb and state that if Foley hadn't left the company, Lost In Cleveland would not be anywhere near this DVD?


If Foley were still in the WWE, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this still made the cut just so he could do commentary on it.

What's Black Saturday? (Oh, hey, I'm on the Internet and can probably look that up for myself. It was when Vince McMahon bought out Georgia Championship Wrestling's TBS TV deal which apparently kicked off the entire Ted Turner/Vince McMahon rivalry. (Is it really a rivalry if only one person is actively participating?) Here's the Wikipedia article about it for anyone else who had never heard of it.))
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.45
Read it and weep, fella


I'd read about Black Saturday before, but I'm surprised WWE referred to it by that name on their own DVD.



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    The Booker T vs. Lance Storm match for the World Title should be quite interesting to see, too. Storm, of course, was a triple-champion at that point, holding the United States, Cruiserweight, and Hardcore Championships concurrently. (Which he renamed the Canadian, 100 KG and Under, and Saskatchewan Hardcore International Titles, respectively.)



This is a terrific match. I remember being red hot for it in 2000 thinking Storm had a chance. Perfect way to elevate a wrestler. At least Russo gave new people chances.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin



      The Booker T vs. Lance Storm match for the World Title should be quite interesting to see, too. Storm, of course, was a triple-champion at that point, holding the United States, Cruiserweight, and Hardcore Championships concurrently. (Which he renamed the Canadian, 100 KG and Under, and Saskatchewan Hardcore International Titles, respectively.)




    This is a terrific match. I remember being red hot for it in 2000 thinking Storm had a chance. Perfect way to elevate a wrestler. At least Russo gave new people chances.




I'm thinking it's on for a different reason.



    Originally posted by CRZ, August 7, 2000


    Off the ropes, up and over, Storm leapfrog, SOME GUY delivers food to Awesome and Heidi...they just CAN'T have a match in WCW, can they.

    ...

    We look at a plate of Arby's while Heidi complains that there aren't any donuts on the plate. For the love of God, how about the MATCH.






My hunch is that it's in as a bad example of Russo, in that even when he gives new people chances, he cuts their legs out from under them by surrounding bullshit.

(edited by hansen9j on 10.8.09 1417)


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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.72
Unless they mention him by name, I doubt it.

Besides, it was Booker T vs Lance Storm for the world title.



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I was just thinking about this the last two weeks. It's good to see that I'm not alone. Raw isn't really bad, it's just really stale. A couple of weeks ago, when Raw opened with that Benoit vs. Edge match, I actually groaned.
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