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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
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I don't know all that much about puro, so I'm not the best person to speak to his importance, but I know that Misawa is considered one of the all-time greats there. He suddenly lost consciousness in the middle of a match (a tag team title match) and died. Very sad news indeed.
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This is why so many people hate wrestling "news" sites:

"While it is being reported that he passed away at the hospital, he may have actually passed away in the ring."

WTF is that?? Where are they getting that information from? Sounds like they're just making shit up to make it sound as sensationalistic as possible. Idiots.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.32
One of the greatest ever, and certainly one of the most influential. I have a VHS tape of some of his matches with his former protege/rival Kawada, and I can assure all who have not seen them that they are classics.

A quick Misawa story of him in the ring.....


Misawa was a man of many moves. He had several he could use to put you away. The elbow, the Tiger Suplex, the Tiger Driver, etc etc. He and Kawada once ha da match where they went back and borth. Now, at this point Kawada (former protege turned rival) has NEVER gotten a pin on Misawa. The two went back and forth in INCREDIBLY stiff action. THe psychology of the match was incredible. Kawada suffered a knee injurt at the hands of Misaa and another in a tag match, and that knee injury was well remebered by our friend Misawa. Misawa proceeds to grind said knee into a fine paste. And you could tell, without knowing whatthe announcers were saying, whenever something huge was goign down. Misawa, near the end, throws everything at Kawada but he still kicks out. ALl of the moves he kicked out of Misawa had gotten three coutns on against several other people (Kawada included). Finally, after it seems as if Misawa has tried it all, he does the only move left in his bag of tricks. A move last seen used by Misawa THREE YEARS previous in a match.

The Tiger Driver '91.

The announcers had a kaniption, the crowd went ape. Kawada was finished. The match was over.

I know nothing of the man and his personal life. I can only hope he aquitted hismelf as well outside of the ring as he did insie. I can only hope that this doesn't turn tragic with accolades sprinignf orth only to find a dark side.

Just once......I want one of my wrestling heros to be remembered for their greatness in the ring.

RIP Misawa.

(edited by El Nastio on 13.6.09 1337)

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    This is why so many people hate wrestling "news" sites:

    "While it is being reported that he passed away at the hospital, he may have actually passed away in the ring."

    WTF is that?? Where are they getting that information from? Sounds like they're just making shit up to make it sound as sensationalistic as possible. Idiots.


Per audio, Meltzer had numerous eye-witness accounts (likely including the wrestlers that surrounded the ring after Misawa did not get up) confirming that Misawa's face had turned purple, as well as the report that he died of a heart attack rather than from a neck injury.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
    Originally posted by El Nastio
    Misawa was a man of many moves. He had several he could use to put you away. The elbow, the Tiger Suplex, the Tiger Driver, etc etc. He and Kawada once ha da match where they went back and borth. Now, at this point Kawada (former protege turned rival) has NEVER gotten a pin on Misawa. The two went back and forth in INCREDIBLY stiff action. THe psychology of the match was incredible. Kawada suffered a knee injurt at the hands of Misaa and another in a tag match, and that knee injury was well remebered by our friend Misawa. Misawa proceeds to grind said knee into a fine paste. And you could tell, without knowing whatthe announcers were saying, whenever something huge was goign down. Misawa, near the end, throws everything at Kawada but he still kicks out. ALl of the moves he kicked out of Misawa had gotten three coutns on against several other people (Kawada included). Finally, after it seems as if Misawa has tried it all, he does the only move left in his bag of tricks. A move last seen used by Misawa THREE YEARS previous in a match.

    The Tiger Driver '91.

    The announcers had a kaniption, the crowd went ape. Kawada was finished. The match was over.


After I read he had died, I found this match on Youtube to watch it for the first time in a long time. It's a great match.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by hansen9j
      Originally posted by Hokienautic
      This is why so many people hate wrestling "news" sites:

      "While it is being reported that he passed away at the hospital, he may have actually passed away in the ring."

      WTF is that?? Where are they getting that information from? Sounds like they're just making shit up to make it sound as sensationalistic as possible. Idiots.


    Per audio, Meltzer had numerous eye-witness accounts (likely including the wrestlers that surrounded the ring after Misawa did not get up) confirming that Misawa's face had turned purple, as well as the report that he died of a heart attack rather than from a neck injury.


People don't usually accuse Dave of being "sensationalistic." This wasnt "IMG DEATH IN THE RING"

Dave has probably already talked to people who were there.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.35
Oh God this is a sad day.

When I first heard of Misawa it was when I bought an import Sega Saturn game "All Japan Pro Wrestling featuring Virtua". I played Misawa sometimes and remembered thinking "Man does this average looking guy destroy people with elbows!"

It took me years to finally be able to watch an actual japanese puro wrestling matches. The first few I watched were the previously stated Misawa vs. Kawada near hour long match, the debut of the Tiger Driver '91 against Akira Taue, and his match where he teamed with Kawada as Tiger Mask and removed the mask during the match.

I loved the last match cause to this day I've never seen a masked wrestler get frustrated enough to basically reveal his face and shred his identitiy, while essentially reinventing himself all within one move. If Rey Mysterio did this on Smackdown next week, I think It would be a career killer. Also one of his biggest rivals took part in what would essentially lead Misawa to super stardom in Japan. Which would also build a story elevating Kawada to super stardom also.

I also loved every match Misawa had with Kobashi. I wish I could of sat in the lockeroom when Misawa and Kobashi discussed finishing a match with Mitsu taking the first ever Burning Hammer:

Mitsu: So you are gonna sit me BACK-first on your shoulders and....drive me directly on my head?

Kobashi: Yeah it'll be great. It'll look great as a desperation finisher.....This is the only match I'll use it on you I promise!

This is a sad sad day. I haven't felt this bad about a wrestler passing since Eddie. It's also a good day cause the matches, the memories, his company NOAH is still going, and the Memorial show will be insane! It's the weird thing about heroes, you'll never think you'll see them die.

Mitsuharu Misawa
June 18, 1962 - June 13, 2009
"He destroyed people with elbows"

(edited by CruelAngel777 on 13.6.09 2046)
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.32
    Originally posted by CruelAngel777
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Amen, and amen. You've summed up everything I felt I left out of mine. I really (really really) wish I could watch the two matches you listed (the oen vs Taue and the Tiger Mask reveal). If you have them on DVD or VHS, please send me a PM with info.

The man was a legand, and still is. I say "is" because for someone like this, the legacy lives on. I'm not sure what the North Americian example would be. Misawa had proteges who became huge stars, started a wrestling promotion, and was a master at telling a story with psychology. A part of that was his moves. A killer finisher like the Tiger Driver '91, the temptation would be to use that all of the time. But Misawa did not. THREE YEARS he waited, and only against his chief rival (who used to be his main protege) did he use it again. And that's not discounting the Tiger Suplex '85. Moves so great that they place the year at the end do signify when they happened.

And he even spanned across an ocean. Chris Jericho said today "Misawa was a true warrior and one of my all time favorite performers. His fighting spirit and superb psychology will be remembered as long exists".....that should giv ean indication of the impact Misawa has had.

I'm watching that tape tomorrow. And hopefully I can find a way to get more Misawa matches.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
RIP. A true legend.

I think I will go watch some of his Kawada matches.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
    Originally posted by El Nastio


    The man was a legand, and still is. I say "is" because for someone like this, the legacy lives on. I'm not sure what the North Americian example would be. Misawa had proteges who became huge stars, started a wrestling promotion, and was a master at telling a story with psychology.






Verne Gagne perhaps?
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by El Nastio


      The man was a legand, and still is. I say "is" because for someone like this, the legacy lives on. I'm not sure what the North Americian example would be. Misawa had proteges who became huge stars, started a wrestling promotion, and was a master at telling a story with psychology.


    Verne Gagne perhaps?


Fritz Von Erich too. Probably Jerry Jarrett falls into that, although, as a wrestler, he wasn't in Fritz or Verne's league



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
Prowrestling.net is reporting that ESPN is saying the cause of death was spinal injury rather than heart attack.

If this is true that throws a different light on the whole thing. For years and years we watched the AJPW guys doing insane head dropping moves and high impact drops with seemingly no major injuries. If this is true you have to wonder if this was because of that single move somehow, or more likely the accumulation of moves. Either way, the act of pro wrestling becomes more easily indicted than if this was simply a man having a heart attack too young.

(edited by spf on 15.6.09 1034)

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Misawa was incredible. His June 8, 1990 match with Jumbo is my favorite all-time wrestling match. The build to his unmasking as Tiger Mask II was simply perfect. The six man on 5/26/90, then the pair of classics vs Jumbo 6/8/90 & 9/1/90 are classic in the true sense of the word. He personified Japanese stoicism. His litany of great matches defined the decade, working with all the greats of that era: Jumbo, Kawada, Kobashi, Hansen, Dr.Death & Gordy. I haven't watched any current US pro wrestling in years, but would get a regular NOAH shipment from Lynch. For those unfamiliar with his greatness, here's what I consider my personal favorite Misawa matches:

All Japan
1) Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Mitsuharu Misawa (6/8/90)
2) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada (6/3/94--Triple Crown)
3) Kenta Kobashi vs. Mitsuharu Misawa (1/20/97--Triple Crown)
4) Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (6/09/95--World Tag Titles)
5) Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Mitsuharu Misawa - All Japan (9/1/90)
6) Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi (12/03/93--RWTL 93)
7) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Stan Hansen (5/21/93--Triple Crown)
8) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (10/21/97--Triple Crown)
9) Misawa & Taue & Kobashi vs. Tsuruta & Kabuki & Fuchi (5/26/90--Jumbo & Co. vs. Misawa & Co.)

NOAH
10) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (GHC Title, 03/01/03)


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.39
I had a friend give me some DVDs of All Japan in 93, featuring most of the matches of Misawa, Kawada, etc. I was immediately drawn to Misawa, even down to the weird "one finger above the eyebrow" method he used to push away sweat.

I count myself very lucky now to have seen him live in ROH in Philly and Manhattan a few years ago.

RIP to a legend.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
    Originally posted by AWArulz
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
        Originally posted by El Nastio


        The man was a legand, and still is. I say "is" because for someone like this, the legacy lives on. I'm not sure what the North Americian example would be. Misawa had proteges who became huge stars, started a wrestling promotion, and was a master at telling a story with psychology.


      Verne Gagne perhaps?


    Fritz Von Erich too. Probably Jerry Jarrett falls into that, although, as a wrestler, he wasn't in Fritz or Verne's league


Mad Dog Vachon falls into this category along with Verne. He was well known for helping people come up with names and gimmicks. The most famous being the "Mr. Wrestling" gimmick that he gave Tim Woods.

(Wiki says it was Nebraska promoter Joe Dusek, but according to people who know Maurice, it was Mad Dog's idea.)



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
Here is the match in which he, as Tiger Mask II, unmasked. The crowd goes crazy when he removes the mask.

EDIT: It appears also that the match in which he died is on Youtube, by I'm not interested in watching it.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 17.6.09 1355)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.52
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    EDIT: It appears also that the match in which he died is on Youtube, by I'm not interested in watching it.




I watched it, but I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't show the match or the actual bump, but the immediate aftermath where the paramedics are trying in vain to revive Misawa. It was rough to watch, especially seeing how disraught everyone was. You could tell by the way the crowd and the wrestlers reacted that they had a lot of admiration for Misawa and were desperately trying to do what they could to save his life. Very sad.





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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.88
    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    I watched it, but I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't show the match or the actual bump, but the immediate aftermath where the paramedics are trying in vain to revive Misawa. It was rough to watch, especially seeing how disraught everyone was. You could tell by the way the crowd and the wrestlers reacted that they had a lot of admiration for Misawa and were desperately trying to do what they could to save his life. Very sad.


It's literally seven minutes of CPR, even as he is stretchered out. The video I saw was edited to remove images of his face and ended with a recap of his career.



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