Its on ESPN.com's front page and to be honest I'm not that surprised considering it is Ricky. I'm so glad we never drafted him. This is really bad for Miami as who knows what they will do on offense now.
Originally posted by BWTThis is really bad for Miami as who knows what they will do on offense now.
The same thing they've done the past couple of years? Every single important Dolphins game since Rick joined the team, it seems, was remembered as "the game where Dave Wannsdattdtetdttetadism (I won't even try to spell it right) went to the pass instead of giving the ball to Ricky down the stretch, costing the Dolphins the game and a possible playoff berth, division title or some other meaningful accomplishment, because God know Jay Fiedler was the answer."
Whatever. I'd be lying if I said I didn't laugh and/or smile big when I saw this.
I'd hate to be someone who bet the over on Dolphins wins or the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl. Without Williams and with Wannestadt, this team has 4-12 written all over it (if everything breaks right, otherwise, 2-14).
Originally posted by Roy.I wonder if the Philly fans who STILL think the Eagles should have drafted him instead of McNabb will change their minds now.
Well, I have. This guy reminds me of Jeff Hardy. He's always seemed kind of strange. Now he's "lost his smile", his "passion for da bizness". I know it must be tough for these guys - a lot of pressure involved - but I suspect that maybe Jeff and Ricky may share a similar problem, and they're too boneheaded to try giving it up for at least a couple more years. They both have a long time ahead of them if they're determined to do what's required to flunk a drug test. You'd think they'd be smart enough to put it off until AFTER their careers are over - both wrestlers and football players have a limited shelf life.
How does the NFL substance testing work? Would he have been testing all offseason, or would he have to start testing now to go to mini-camp?
I'm wondering if this isn't just a stall tactic at some level. One could speculate that he knows he's going to come up positive for drugs, so he's "retiring" now to get a bit longer for the stuff to leave his system.
Maybe someone told him they were going to go to hair testing?
Of course, this is all speculation based on the unfounded assumption that he is using drugs. I'm probably way off base here, and this is just my wild dark horse guess - I in no way know anything about Ricky Williams' personal habits and wouldn't want to imply that I do.
Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
Originally posted by Roy.I wonder if the Philly fans who STILL think the Eagles should have drafted him instead of McNabb will change their minds now.
Well, I have. This guy reminds me of Jeff Hardy. He's always seemed kind of strange. Now he's "lost his smile", his "passion for da bizness". I know it must be tough for these guys - a lot of pressure involved - but I suspect that maybe Jeff and Ricky may share a similar problem, and they're too boneheaded to try giving it up for at least a couple more years. They both have a long time ahead of them if they're determined to do what's required to flunk a drug test. You'd think they'd be smart enough to put it off until AFTER their careers are over - both wrestlers and football players have a limited shelf life.
Kathy
Actually, the first wrestler that came to mind when I read that he was retiring was Brock Lesnar.
This is really surprising....I'm sure all the Bills fans in this area will love it though.
Originally posted by Guru ZimHow does the NFL substance testing work? Would he have been testing all offseason, or would he have to start testing now to go to mini-camp?
I'm wondering if this isn't just a stall tactic at some level. One could speculate that he knows he's going to come up positive for drugs, so he's "retiring" now to get a bit longer for the stuff to leave his system.
Maybe someone told him they were going to go to hair testing?
Of course, this is all speculation based on the unfounded assumption that he is using drugs. I'm probably way off base here, and this is just my wild dark horse guess - I in no way know anything about Ricky Williams' personal habits and wouldn't want to imply that I do.
He tested positive for marijuana in 2002 just after he joined the 'Fins, then he apparently failed another test during the off season this year. The story is that his failed test this year was merely borderline positive so I'd be very surprised if this is a stall tactic.
I honestly believe he was just never happy in the NFL. He didn't have a good time with the Saints, and I seem to remember he was got treatment for a personality disorder while he was there. For a while he seemed to settle in Miami, but maybe after a down year last year he just decided he didn't have the desire to play any more.
Its a shitty time to walk out on a contract, but if he was genuinely depressed then I'd have a hard time holding it against him.
Originally posted by Guru ZimHow does the NFL substance testing work? Would he have been testing all offseason, or would he have to start testing now to go to mini-camp?
I'm wondering if this isn't just a stall tactic at some level. One could speculate that he knows he's going to come up positive for drugs, so he's "retiring" now to get a bit longer for the stuff to leave his system. ... Of course, this is all speculation based on the unfounded assumption that he is using drugs. I'm probably way off base here, and this is just my wild dark horse guess - I in no way know anything about Ricky Williams' personal habits and wouldn't want to imply that I do.
Well, this is what I read in the report from the AP on Philly.com today - I hope I'm doing this right, I DID read the last "memo".
From: "Posted on Sun, Jul. 25, 2004 - Williams Tells Dolphins He's Retiring - STEVEN WINE Associated Press"
"Williams told the Herald marijuana tests he failed had a minor influence on his decision, but were only one of many factors. In May, three South Florida newspapers reported that Williams tested positive for marijuana and faced a fine of at least $650,000 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy for a second time since joining the Dolphins.
His attorney, Gary Ostrow, said there was no violation, and a ruling on Williams' appeal was pending."
Like you say, you can't judge, but it sounds a little fishy.
Here's another quote - same article:
"In some ways Williams' decision to retire in his prime was not a surprise, because he was never the stereotypical football player. His passions include shopping and photography, and in 2001 he was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder, a condition contributing to his extreme shyness. While with the Saints, he often conducted interviews while wearing his helmet. He said he felt like a weirdo in New Orleans but professed to be happy during his two seasons with Miami."
Originally posted by redsoxnationI'd hate to be someone who bet the over on Dolphins wins or the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl. Without Williams and with Wannestadt, this team has 4-12 written all over it (if everything breaks right, otherwise, 2-14).
(edited by redsoxnation on 25.7.04 1058)
Two words: Ewing Theory.
Too bad that this had to happen after Eddie George was signed, however, or else Eddie could've gotten a lot of cash from the suddenly desperate Dolphins.
Good for him, and I'm not just saying that as a Pats fan. His timing is really horrible and couldn't be much worse, but the Dolphins would have been pretty screwed no matter when he retired. I can see where the player that just doesn't want to play anymore is coming from. Just a weird thing from a weird guy.
I was in Nowheresville, WV for the last week and this is news to me. The Heisman curse (and video game curse, he was on NFL Street) continues.
Hey Ricky (1998), say hi to Chris Weinke (2000), Ron Dayne (1999), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Rashaan Salaam (1994), Charlie Ward (1993, and bolted to the NBA), & Gino Torretta (1992) for me.
I do hope he can get his smile back and give it another run.
Originally posted by Guru ZimHow does the NFL substance testing work? Would he have been testing all offseason, or would he have to start testing now to go to mini-camp?
I'm wondering if this isn't just a stall tactic at some level. One could speculate that he knows he's going to come up positive for drugs, so he's "retiring" now to get a bit longer for the stuff to leave his system.
Maybe someone told him they were going to go to hair testing?
Of course, this is all speculation based on the unfounded assumption that he is using drugs. I'm probably way off base here, and this is just my wild dark horse guess - I in no way know anything about Ricky Williams' personal habits and wouldn't want to imply that I do.
Maybe Ricky is off his meds? Either way this really sucks!
Originally posted by redsoxnationI'd hate to be someone who bet the over on Dolphins wins or the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl. Without Williams and with Wannestadt, this team has 4-12 written all over it (if everything breaks right, otherwise, 2-14).
(edited by redsoxnation on 25.7.04 1058)
Two words: Ewing Theory.
Not likely. Unless they can get someone else, Travis Minor is suddenly the #1 RB.
I really hope Emmitt decides to retire. He will never be as good as he was in the mid-90's again for two reasons. First, obviously he was in his prime back then. Secondly, he ran behind one of the best offensive lines in NFL history.