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MoeGates
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#61 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
Why, you may ask, because they have been in power the longest and have done nothing with it. I can't explain the Senator thing other than that Arlen Spector is true evil, I know this, becaus I have met with him. Evil.

Really? I always kind of liked Arlen Spector. I had no idea.

Being in power the longest and doing nothing with it is just called being an ineffectual politician. For instance, Ed Towns and Major Owens (both Democrats)collectively completely waste 40 years of seniority for Brooklyn.



"I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about 'man on dog' with a United States Senator. It's sort of freaking me out."


Associated Press interview with Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 04-07-2003.
vsp
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#62 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Why, you may ask, because they have been in power the longest and have done nothing with it. I can't explain the Senator thing other than that Arlen Spector is true evil, I know this, becaus I have met with him. Evil.

    Really? I always kind of liked Arlen Spector. I had no idea.

    Being in power the longest and doing nothing with it is just called being an ineffectual politician. For instance, Ed Towns and Major Owens (both Democrats)collectively completely waste 40 years of seniority for Brooklyn.



Specter's two claims to (in)fame are his role on the Warren Commission (the notorious "magic bullet" theory on JFK's assassination), and his prominent role in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings (grilling Anita Hill mercilessly on the stand). Beyond those, he's been relatively innocuous -- he's Republican, but is also firmly pro-choice and anti-Christian Right, neither of which score many points with the hardcore conservatives. I can't say I've ever voted for him, but next to Santorum, he's a sweetheart.






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OlFuzzyBastard
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#63 Posted on

    Originally posted by vsp

      Originally posted by MoeGates
      Why, you may ask, because they have been in power the longest and have done nothing with it. I can't explain the Senator thing other than that Arlen Spector is true evil, I know this, becaus I have met with him. Evil.

      Really? I always kind of liked Arlen Spector. I had no idea.

      Being in power the longest and doing nothing with it is just called being an ineffectual politician. For instance, Ed Towns and Major Owens (both Democrats)collectively completely waste 40 years of seniority for Brooklyn.



    Specter's two claims to (in)fame are his role on the Warren Commission (the notorious "magic bullet" theory on JFK's assassination), and his prominent role in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings (grilling Anita Hill mercilessly on the stand). Beyond those, he's been relatively innocuous -- he's Republican, but is also firmly pro-choice and anti-Christian Right, neither of which score many points with the hardcore conservatives. I can't say I've ever voted for him, but next to Santorum, he's a sweetheart.





Yeah, ditto. Depending on who runs against him, he's pretty likely to be the first Republican I ever vote for next year.



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#64 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Yeah, ditto. Depending on who runs against him, he's pretty likely to be the first Republican I ever vote for next year.


Unless you're registered as a Republican, you might not get the chance. Specter faces a potentially tough primary challenge from Rep. Pat Toomey, who's painted Specter as a "Republican In Name Only" and himself as a 100% pure conservative, and has the backing of the ultra-fiscal-conservative Club For Growth, among others.

While Specter has his share of advantages as the long-term incumbent, any politicians in a heavily-rural state underestimate the "pro-life, pro-Bible, pro-tax cut, pro-gun, anti-everything else" undercurrent at their peril. Few thought that Bret Schundler would beat Bob Franks in the 2001 Republican primary for Governor in New Jersey, for example, but Schundler rode that constituency hard to an unexpected victory. (He also got beaten like a rented mule in the general election, but that didn't do much for Franks.) If hardcore conservatives buy into the "nominate-a-REAL-Republican" bandwagon, all bets are off.



(edited by vsp on 30.4.03 1353)


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MoeGates
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#65 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
Wonderful. The fact that the GOP didn't have serious primary challenges gave them a huge political advantage (although the threat of a potential serious primary challenge is generally more politically useful on the state Senator and Representative level). It's one of the side effects of not being a minority party that they managed to sidestep for about the last 10 years even though they weren't the minority party anymore. This is only good for Dems. It doesn't even matter how it turns out, just the fact that serious primary challenges are a possibility in GOP circles open up huge political possibilities for the Dems.


(edited by MoeGates on 30.4.03 1642)


"I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about 'man on dog' with a United States Senator. It's sort of freaking me out."


Associated Press interview with Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 04-07-2003.
Jakegnosis
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#66 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Jakegnosis
      Honestly, this is the kind of fucker that should be in solitary confinement forever. There is no rehabilitation for his sick ass.

    No, this is the kind of guy who needs to be executed...



I don't agree with the death penalty. I believe in life sentences. Not life sentences as in "do 15 years and then get off on parole," real fucking life sentences, as in "your ass in a cell until you die."



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Grimis
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#67 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Speaking of Arlen Spector and homosexuality: Lawmakers Seek Hate Crime Laws for Gays




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Very interesting, though it's not just about gays -- it would add disability and gender protections as well.

I don't think it's going to pass, but I may find it amusing to watch House Republicans explain why it shouldn't.






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I personally think "Hate crimes" is a non-issue. Why is killing someone because they're gay worse than killing someone because you want their wallet? The point is you killed someone, right? Why make the distinction?



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#70 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by IsaacYankem
    I personally think "Hate crimes" is a non-issue. Why is killing someone because they're gay worse than killing someone because you want their wallet? The point is you killed someone, right? Why make the distinction?

You're exactly right. It's not. Just another way for the left to create unnecessary divisions between American.




MoeGates
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#71 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I know. Why can't we all just unify and vote for George W. Bush? It worked so well in Iraq.

That being said, I think hate crimes laws are stupid also. My analysis differs a bit however, I think that it's just a sop make it look like the Dems actually care about LGBTQ (That's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, and Queer, for those of you not up to date on the latest lefty terminology) community instead of actual supporting anything real. "Look, we're against hate! And if someone kills you, we're going to say it's really REALLY bad! Never mind you can get kicked out of your apartment, lose your job, and not be able to visit your partner of 30 years in the hospital when he has a brain tumor. Not to mention that you have to pay for it all because they can't get on your insurance!"





"I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about 'man on dog' with a United States Senator. It's sort of freaking me out."


Associated Press interview with Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 04-07-2003.
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Since: 11.7.02
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#72 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
I thought "queer" was taboo now...




MoeGates
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#73 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
No no. "Queer," has been reclaimed by the community. "Dyke" has also, to a lessor extent. You can't say it though. Not because of what orientation you happen to be though, because you're a Republican.

The story of "Queer" is kind of funny. It started as kind of an inclusive catch-all for "not-straight," becuase whereas "Gay" used to do just fine, it became the much more cumbersome "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangendered, etc. etc." But, because not everyone liked "Queer," it ended up just getting added on to the end of the "LGBTQ" acronym, therefor kind of defeating the purpose.

I've been to conferences and such where there's a meeting for "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Queer, Two-Spirit, Transgendered, and (get this) men who have sex with men but identify as straight (I guess they hadn't come up with a term for that yet)."

There is absolutely nothing that will make you want to slit your own throat quicker than discussing issues of self-identity with lefties. Maybe discussing economics with Libertarians. But that would be it.



"I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about 'man on dog' with a United States Senator. It's sort of freaking me out."


Associated Press interview with Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 04-07-2003.
Grimis
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#74 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    and (get this) men who have sex with men but identify as straight (I guess they hadn't come up with a term for that yet)."

How aobut confused?


    Originally posted by MoeGates
    There is absolutely nothing that will make you want to slit your own throat quicker than discussing issues of self-identity with lefties.

What's sad is that it takes some people so much effort to identify themselves. I'm a GOP WASP. How hard was that?




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#75 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis
    I thought "queer" was taboo now...


I thought those people have been using this word for years. Haven't you ever seen them on the news, out in the streets protesting WHATEVER and singing "we're here! we're queer! get used to it!" I guess they just don't like it when Marshall Mathers uses it in a song.



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#76 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
It's hilarious that liberals are so mad that Santourum compared homosexuality to adultery. You just spent 2 years telling us that everyone does it, lies about it, and that it's not a big deal.

On a side note, I enjoy discussing economics with Libertarians far more than I do discussing economics with Liberals. It's much better to have discussions on important issues with people that won't cry and call you names if you disagree.
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#77 Posted on

    Originally posted by Michrome
    It's hilarious that liberals are so mad that Santourum compared homosexuality to adultery. You just spent 2 years telling us that everyone does it, lies about it, and that it's not a big deal.

    On a side note, I enjoy discussing economics with Libertarians far more than I do discussing economics with Liberals. It's much better to have discussions on important issues with people that won't cry and call you names if you disagree.



I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people were a little more upset about the comparisons to incest and polygamy, but, hey, way to turn this into a discussion of Bill Clinton's dick! You'd think that if the 2000 election was too much of "ancient history" to ever mention again, Bill Clinton's dick would be long since forgotten, but it's good to know some people can still keep a sense of perspective.



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#78 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
For the record, Santorum did not compare homosexuality to polygamy or incest. He simply compared sodomy laws to laws banning polygamy and incest, as it is apparently his belief that all those laws are founded on a right to privacy that he doesn't believe in. Now, I don't agree with Santorum, but I don't think he said what everyone thinks he did.



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