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Signature Pharmacy had a large and varied client list, apparently. I do wonder if the names that are being leaked out are being spaced out and chosen for maximum impact.

The New York Daily News reports


    According to records obtained by The News and sources close to the controversy surrounding anti-aging clinics that dispense illegal prescription drugs, Ankiel received eight shipments of HGH from Signature Pharmacy in Orlando from January to December 2004, including the brand-name injectable drugs Saizen and Genotropin. Signature is the pharmacy at the forefront of Albany District Attorney David Soares' two-year investigation into illegal Internet prescription drug sales, which has brought 22 indictments and nine convictions.


The story goes on to say Ankiel stopped receiving HGH from this pharmacy by the time MLB officially banned it in '05. I thought the minors might have had it had a stronger drug policy in sooner, but I can't quickly find any confirmation.

It sounds like this is going to play out like the Giambi situation - far too late to suspend, but MLB will surely want to speak to him to find what he knew and when. It's going to be a distraction more than anything, though I think one most people inside of baseball will want to ignore. (I just saw Fernando Vina basically blow it off because the Ankiel return story is too good, and I figure that'll be the standard.



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Awwwww MAN

Is there no such things as truly heartwarming story any more?



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If it's too good to be true...




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I know I sound quite the homer, but taking HGH to help rehab your pitching arm and two-and-a-half years later becoming a power hitter in the bigs doesn't sound too suspect to me. Even Gammmons was supposedly like "it was to rehab, STFU people" on ESPN Radio this morning.

Not that I just brush it off. It sucks. But they didn't catch him with a needle in his bag. I figure it's the same as Big Mac and the Andro he took while it was an acceptable substance. The question with McGwire, though, is what else he might have taken.

Bernie Miklasz has a nice blog post on the Post website this morning pointing to how Rick's power has always been there, and even in 2001 he was saying he should become an outfielder if the pitching falls through.



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To me it's going to be all about his response to this information. If he just comes out and says yes the information is correct, I did take it and it was just for rehab then for the most part I'm fine with it. Sure he could/should have done things differently but considering how many people it seems may have used at one point or another I'm just looking for those who did to admit it, apologize and move on. It's the ones that get all upset and deny that really bother me.
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Sabernomics has an interesting article from April about how HGH is basically worthless as a performance enhancing drug.

The more and more I read about Ankiel and HGH on the interwebs the less relevant the whole story becomes.



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Add another name to the list...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/09/07/drug.probe/index.html

"alleges that between September 2003 and May 2004, multiple shipments of nandrolone and testosterone were sent to Glaus at a Corona, Calif., "

Maybe they should just start telling us who's not on the list. Could be quicker.
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    Originally posted by PeterStork
    Sabernomics has an interesting article from April about how HGH is basically worthless as a performance enhancing drug.

    The more and more I read about Ankiel and HGH on the interwebs the less relevant the whole story becomes.


So I'm assuming that Rodney Harrison shouldn't have been suspended and that there should be no suspicion about Barry Bonds?



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Austin: "AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah... oh man that was too much."
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      Originally posted by PeterStork
      Sabernomics has an interesting article from April about how HGH is basically worthless as a performance enhancing drug.

      The more and more I read about Ankiel and HGH on the interwebs the less relevant the whole story becomes.


    So I'm assuming that Rodney Harrison shouldn't have been suspended and that there should be no suspicion about Barry Bonds?


Yes, because HGH is the only substance Bonds is suspected of doing.

Personally, I've never cared about Bonds and steroids - my only dislike of him is because he's an ass. But your question is inane.



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    Originally posted by PeterStork
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
        Originally posted by PeterStork
        Sabernomics has an interesting article from April about how HGH is basically worthless as a performance enhancing drug.

        The more and more I read about Ankiel and HGH on the interwebs the less relevant the whole story becomes.


      So I'm assuming that Rodney Harrison shouldn't have been suspended and that there should be no suspicion about Barry Bonds?


    Yes, because HGH is the only substance Bonds is suspected of doing.

    Personally, I've never cared about Bonds and steroids - my only dislike of him is because he's an ass. But your question is inane.


I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as snarky. I just feel that there will be a double standard here because Ankiel is a 'feel good' story.

To be honest, I shouldn't have put in Bonds, as he took other things (and I'm with you, I don't care, I still say he's the best baseball player I've ever seen).



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Steve Austin: "Oh shit, he actually said that? I thought the boys in the back were ribbing me!"

Kelly: "No, he really said that. Did they tell you the part about you sitting in the stands, looking all skeptical?"

Austin: "AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah... oh man that was too much."
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    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      Originally posted by PeterStork
        Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
          Originally posted by PeterStork
          Sabernomics has an interesting article from April about how HGH is basically worthless as a performance enhancing drug.

          The more and more I read about Ankiel and HGH on the interwebs the less relevant the whole story becomes.


        So I'm assuming that Rodney Harrison shouldn't have been suspended and that there should be no suspicion about Barry Bonds?


      Yes, because HGH is the only substance Bonds is suspected of doing.

      Personally, I've never cared about Bonds and steroids - my only dislike of him is because he's an ass. But your question is inane.


    I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as snarky. I just feel that there will be a double standard here because Ankiel is a 'feel good' story.

    To be honest, I shouldn't have put in Bonds, as he took other things (and I'm with you, I don't care, I still say he's the best baseball player I've ever seen).


It's all good!

Even as I truly believe the Ankiel news is nothing much, I agree that if it's found that he took something else with it - which I doubt, mostly because I'm a homer - there is the possibility that people would still want to deny the significance.

It'll be interesting to watch the reaction over Troy Glaus, who's now being named this afternoon as an HGH recipient as well. To me it's, again, no big deal, but this thing could swell to be a lot bigger than just Ankiel.



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noted ankiel fan and deadspin editor Will Leitch said this today:

http://deadspin.com/sports/rick-ankiel/what-we-lost-and-what-we-never-had-297390.php



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    Originally posted by PeterStork
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
        Originally posted by PeterStork

        Yes, because HGH is the only substance Bonds is suspected of doing.

        Personally, I've never cared about Bonds and steroids - my only dislike of him is because he's an ass. But your question is inane.


      I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as snarky. I just feel that there will be a double standard here because Ankiel is a 'feel good' story.

      To be honest, I shouldn't have put in Bonds, as he took other things (and I'm with you, I don't care, I still say he's the best baseball player I've ever seen).


    It's all good!

    Even as I truly believe the Ankiel news is nothing much, I agree that if it's found that he took something else with it - which I doubt, mostly because I'm a homer - there is the possibility that people would still want to deny the significance.

    It'll be interesting to watch the reaction over Troy Glaus, who's now being named this afternoon as an HGH recipient as well. To me it's, again, no big deal, but this thing could swell to be a lot bigger than just Ankiel.


Not that it really matters, but if you read that article I posted about Glaus he's listed as buying roids, not HGH.

(edited by CRZ on 7.9.07 1452)
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I thought the minors might have had it had a stronger drug policy in sooner, but I can't quickly find any confirmation.

According to this article in the San Francisco Chronicle from December 2004, HGH was already banned in the minors at that point.
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