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I have watched the chapter and the non-match extras so far.

Match Listing
Arn/Tully/Flair vs. Rocky King/Pistol Pez Whatley/Italian Stallion 6/22/85.edit:Though the promotional material and the DVD itself say Tully is involved in this match, it is instead Ole as the partner of Arn and Flair in this match held under the proud flag of Kenya.
Flair vs. Morton 7/5/86 (cage match)
Tully vs. Dusty 11/27/86 (first blood)
Windham Horsemen vs. Dusty/Nikita/Luger/Dr.Death/Paul Ellering 7/16/88 (War Game:The Match Beyond)
Arn/Tully vs. Sting/Nikita 7/10/88
Arn/Tully vs. Windham/Luger Clash 1 3/27/88
Arn vs. Flair 9/17/95

They could have put much, much more into the match section. A vast assortment of World TV Title matches involving Arn and Tully exist. Showing Flair do commentary on the National Title Match where he ends up interfering to help Tully defeat Dusty would have been a good choice. They do not show the 1st World Tag Title victory even in the clipped version of the chapters, thus no picture of the Midnight Express executing Divorce Court prior to the match and the emotion build-up of the match. While they apparently don't have any duplicate matches from other DVD's, it is lacking much depth. The Steel Cage DVD is almost necessary in order to get a few extra Horsemen matches. If this lack of depth is a sign of the times under the new DVD agreement, then go back to the previous method.

As for the Chapters, with a few exceptions, excellent. They do muddle the time frame in some instances, such as the Black Scorpion being before the birth of the Sid Vicious Horsemen, and why Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler are discussing the 1986 Horsemen is unusual to say the least. And a Jim Ross gratuitous shot at the current NWA was not necessary.
Considering the depth they go into about Magnum T.A. being a challenger to Flair, disappointing they don't mention the car accident and the Nikita face turn against the Horsemen. Far more Magnum than I expected though, so I can't complain about that.
Flair's comments about Sid are classic, and Paul Roma proves he is a waste of molecules.
Interesting story by Tully about his last days in Crockett Promotions.
They only show snippets of Arn's retirement speech, which should have been shown in its entirety.
They do show the Dusty parking lot beatdown in its entirety in the extra sections, but the other classic locker room beatdowns are relegated to clips in the Chapters section.

As a whole, the DVD is good, perhaps very good. However, if given the time it deserved, it should have been great. It should have had 9 hours over 3 discs, and even that could have been considered light in comparison to other 'quicky' DVD's they have released recently.

(edited by redsoxnation on 12.4.07 2155)

(edited by redsoxnation on 14.4.07 1234)

'Ric Flair wishes he was Paul Roma.' Congratulations Paul on winning the Idiotic Comment of the Decade Award.
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I concur with all of this. However, the single BEST thing about the Horsemen DVD set is the fact that the Horsemen's music is all over the menus. I found myself in no rush to play any of the DVD because of the kickass music. The Horsemen's theme, with the gallops, the horse neighing, and then the stately beats and ominous guitar riffs, is the most underrated aspect of the Four Horsemen. It's one of the best themes in wrestling. Any idea if it's downloadable, anyone?

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