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In the ensuing days I'm sure this thread will be used to talk about the movie, but I just thought I'd bring up this amusing article to kick things off....

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That was fantastic! When technology gets the better of us...

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Oh, if ONLY we had footage of those early tries.



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Wow. Even if the movie is somehow terrible - and the chances of that happening are somewhat akin to Carol Mosley Braun winning the 2004 Presidential election - I'll still buy the ReallyBig DVD just to see that.





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I get to see Return of the King in three hours.

This is going to rule. It's at 100% (STILL) at Rotten Tomatoes

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Sweet Jesus, things are at a fever pitch here. We've got our tickets and we are finally going to witness the end of the greatest movie trilogy of all time. The good thing is that I've wanted to see this movie, above all the others, for years. The bad thing is that once this one is done, there will be no others. It's kind of bittersweet.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.97
    Originally posted by VanillaSky
    The bad thing is that once this one is done, there will be no others. It's kind of bittersweet.


Maybe, maybe not...

In related news, I got my tickets for tonight...





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Well, I saw Return of the King last night. A few thoughts. Those who don't like SPOILERS should probably dread lightly, as I shall use some SPOILERS that might SPOIL a fantastically awesome film.

-I loved the film, from top to bottom. Saruman (Christopher Lee) doesn't appear at all, as Treebeard's guarding Isengard. Then, after the first ten minutes or so of everyone jostling for position, it's BALLS TO THE WALLS action. The trick with trilogies is that there's no friggin' way you'd make three films about a quest that fails. They have to succeed. The thing Return of the King does fantastically well is create a shadow of a doubt in your mind about the outcome. They put you right with the characters and as they're being blindsided by many obstacles (the Siege of Minas Tirith & the Battle of the Pellenor Fields especially, did I spell that right?) that you think that everyone's going to die.

Return of the King's already won the New York Film Critics' Circle Award for Best Picture...and it's probably the best film I've seen this year. I'm seeing it again tonight...and I'm thinking that if this is the stuff they kept, the other 65 minutes of footage on the DVD will also be great.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by VanillaSky
      The bad thing is that once this one is done, there will be no others. It's kind of bittersweet.


    Maybe, maybe not...

    In related news, I got my tickets for tonight...


Well, as much as I like the Hobbit, I don't carry the same level of love as I do for Lord of the Rings. I was saying that it was bittersweet that this is the final chapter in the trilogy....

...and what a final chapter it was. Grond rules. Shelob was scary as hell. Bernard Hill once again showed why he's my favorite actor out of the whole group. His Theoden has become my favorite character.

Sean Astin deserves an acting nod here. On the slopes of Mt. Doom when he hoists Frodo on his shoulders, the whole theatre must have been in tears.

So, so good. Easily the best film of the year.





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It's been about 5.5 hours since I saw ROTK. It would be more, but the film BROKE about an hour into the movie and needed some time to get everything back on track, and about 3 min of the movie was lost.

That said, this was just awe-inspiring. The applause was State of the Union speech like in how many times the crowd went nuts at my theatre. During 3 different Sam scenes you could hear people weeping. And yes, Bernard Hill is amazing, and the Ride of the Rohirrim is beyond my words. I don't know if Cold Mountain or any of the other "Oscar movies" is good or not, but I cannot fathom something that does as many things as well as ROTK being out there right now.



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I'll put it this simply - not only is this the best film of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, not only is this the best film of 2003, but I'm very hard-pressed at this moment to come up with a better film I've ever seen. I'm sure I don't have to tell most of you this - but go see this movie. Now. Today. Take off work. Skip school. (If you're in the minority who hasn't seen the first two films in the trilogy, go buy the DVDs and watch them today, and go see this movie tomorrow.)

However, what I didn't seem to comprehend until last night was that going to see an epic at midnight when you have class the next day may not be the smartest move in the world. I'm running on about an hour and a half's worth of sleep here, folks - and I can't possibly get out of here until about 7:00. So, if I make less sense than usual - blame the hobbits.

EDIT: My review I wrote for elsewhere:
What can I say about this movie that hasn't already been said? It's a masterpiece. A flat-out masterpiece that, all at once, makes Fellowship and The Two Towers look even better and even worse.

Before I go on, let me stress that I never read the books. Well, I tried reading Fellowship in high school, but couldn't get past the interminable Bilbo Baggins birthday party. I am anything but a Tolkienophile, and I knew extremely little about the events of this chapter going in. (And most of what I knew was incorrect. For some reason, I've always had it in my head that Frodo dies.)

And, to be honest, I don't really understand those people. I was in Eides Entertainment - a, no, the comic book store - this afternoon, in part of my never-ending and increasingly unsucessful search for my sister's Christmas present - and the clerks are going on and on about insignifigant and petty "mistakes" that "totally ruined the movie". Honestly - if you didn't like this movie, you are impossible to please.

(And, don't get me wrong, I'll be the same way when and if they finally make a series of Dark Tower movies. Hmmm, Viggo Mortensen wouldn't make a bad Roland Deschain, would he?)

Anyway - the movie itself. I've been to a few films where people clapped after the movie was over. If I like the movie, I tend to do this myself, even though I always wind up feeling silly because no one in any way associated with the film was actually, you know, in attendance.

Only once before ("Star Wars: Episode I") can I remember being in a theater where people clapped as soon as the lights dimmed and as soon as the movie started.

And never before can I remember so many people stopping and applauding the screen before. Every moment of triumph was met with a feverous round of applause - and I was right there with them. It's just that kind of movie - the heroes overcoming incredible odds and pulling the impossible, you just can't help but cheer something like that.

And I'm also not ashamed to admit that I cried during quite a few "Sam scenes". (As far as I'm concerned, if you don't cry during movies, you don't have a soul. Period. I can't remember the last time I cried in real life, although I think I shed a tear when Johnny Cash died when my tribute playing of "The Man Comes Around" got to "We'll Meet Again".) Sean Astin and Elijah Wood deserve acting nods at Oscar time every bit as much as this movie deserves to take home Best Picture. (Andy Serkis, of course, deserves a nod once again - and still won't get it, although this time he would justly lose to Astin.) Billy Boyd's Pippen and John Rhys-Davies' Gimli manage to steal pretty much every scene they're in once again.

The battle scenes are amazing. Peter Jackson said something to the effect that this movie would make the Helm's Deep scene look like a pillowfight - and that's no exaggeration. Incredible, and with a bare minimum of that herky-jerky camcorder stuff that most movies like to do in scenes like that which completely hides most of the action.

Perhaps the only flaw with the movie (aside from Not Enough Gimli, but there can't possibly ever be quite enough Gimli) was the overlong ending sequence, but, one, I know Jackson trimmed it way down from what was in the book and, two, it was well after three in the morning when it began and we were all exhausted from the incredibly tense Mount Doom sequence and the long final battle. I'd really have to see it again - and will - in order to make a final judgement.

All in all, I think the classic Star Wars trilogy may finally have been surpassed. (I don't know, though. If the fellowship had an elf, a dwarf and a Wookiee, I'd be willing to say so right now, but I certainly don't want to make such a grand statement without much more time to let the film sink in and at least one or two more viewings. Either way, though, it totally blows that Matrix crap right out of the water.)


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I also took in a midnight show, and my audience must have been much less impressed than others. They really only applauded once during the movie, the part when Eowyn takes out the Nazgul. There was of course cheers after the movie ended, but not a lot.

This is of course a great, great movie, but I do have one big problem with it. After the climax of the movie, there is about 30 minutes of post-Ring activities. It really did drag on for too long. And don't worry, I know that half the final book is given to this, but the movie should have pared it down. The biggest laugh in our theater was when someone yelled out "Shit" when the final, final scene showed (because it just wouldn't end).

But yes, see the movie early and often. The acting is top-notch and the battle scenes easily dwarf the previous movies. Just expect to be sitting in the theater for over three hours.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

Saw it today.

All the usual platitudes.

My favorite thing may have been the bonfires.

I heard lots of people sniffling a) at Mount Doom, b) the Coronation, c) the boat.

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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    I also took in a midnight show, and my audience must have been much less impressed than others. They really only applauded once during the movie, the part when Eowyn takes out the Nazgul. There was of course cheers after the movie ended, but not a lot.

    This is of course a great, great movie, but I do have one big problem with it. After the climax of the movie, there is about 30 minutes of post-Ring activities. It really did drag on for too long. And don't worry, I know that half the final book is given to this, but the movie should have pared it down. The biggest laugh in our theater was when someone yelled out "Shit" when the final, final scene showed (because it just wouldn't end).

    But yes, see the movie early and often. The acting is top-notch and the battle scenes easily dwarf the previous movies. Just expect to be sitting in the theater for over three hours.


I agree...Fantastic movie! My only issue was the pacing of the end sequences...Here's what i wrote on another site...

"The only part that was frustrating was the end...Or lack there of. For those living under a rock since the 30's, the good guys win the day. Then there is about 20 mins of wrap up. I swear, there were at least 5 spots where the movie could have ended. Now I'm all for completing a story as intended by the author, but if you have a sequence that would normally indicate "The End" (i.e. reunion scenes, celebration scenes, deep introverted accounts of the story by the main characters) then followed by a slow fade to black, YOU DON'T FADE BACK IN AND CONTINUE THE STORY!

Either keep going or fade to black.

Don't fade, come back, continue 2 more points of resolution, fade out AGAIN, and fade back in to continue!!!

The end of the movie had 3 such instances. It was kinda frustrating.

Other than that, perfect flick."

But don't get me wrong, best movie of the year. Period.



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Damn right, Mr. Steps. Sweet, sweet Miranda Otto. Much like Jewel, that other snaggle-toothed beauty.



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After what we've seen in these films, I think a simple five-minute celebratory collection of scenes would've been a total let-down. As for the film itself, there aren't enough adjectives in the English language to describe how amazing it was.



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Sweet.



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OK, having NOT read any of these previous posts...Is this a spoiler free thread????



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.98
    Originally posted by chuckc14
    OK, having NOT read any of these previous posts...Is this a spoiler free thread????


Not really, no.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    This is of course a great, great movie, but I do have one big problem with it. After the climax of the movie, there is about 30 minutes of post-Ring activities. It really did drag on for too long. And don't worry, I know that half the final book is given to this, but the movie should have pared it down.


Nope. The movie should've included the REAL ending (the Scouring of the Shire). Sometimes you win the war and defeat evil and go home and DON'T live happily ever after...

(Caveat: The last Jackson movie I watched was "Meet the Feebles." If I want to visualize LOTR, I re-read the books and close my eyes.)




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