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Tweets coming across the wire indicate that the Hornets are dealing Chris Paul to the (ugh) Los Angeles Lakers, with the New Orleans receiving Andrew Bynum Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom. Cajunman was not available for comment, because I banned him, but let the "Khloe takes New Orleans" jokes commence. (We laugh at New Orleans to keep from crying about the Lakers.)

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NBA lockout just ended, but the Lakers are trying to make me hate the season before it even begins!

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Marc Stein tweets (@ESPNSteinLine) that the Houston Rockets may get PGasol from the Hornets when this is all said and done, and adds...

    Originally posted by @ESPNSteinLine
    If rest of deal goes through as proposed, sources tell ESPN that HOU would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Goran Dragic to N.O. for Gasol


(edited by CRZ on 8.12.11 1724)


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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Cajunman was not available for comment, because I banned him, but let the "Khloe takes New Orleans" jokes commence.


A-HEM, he wasn't the only Hornets fan here. (However, the quality of posts from New Orleans fans has gone up ASTRONOMICALLY since he was banned... hmm...)

    Originally posted by CRZ
    Marc Stein tweets (@ESPNSteinLine) that the Houston Rockets may get PGasol from the Hornets when this is all said and done, and adds...

      Originally posted by @ESPNSteinLine
      If rest of deal goes through as proposed, sources tell ESPN that HOU would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Goran Dragic to N.O. for Gasol



I freely admit to being irrational here, but unless BOTH teams throw in a pony, no deal. Paul means so much to the Hornets that they need the heist of a lifetime to stay afloat. Since that's not happening (I don't see the Blazers going for my suggestion (espn.go.com)), I'll begrudgingly accept Martin, Scola, Dragic, Odom and TWO PONIES for Paul.

(EDIT: Since that didn't work, and I guess the trade would be illegal anyways, I'll post the updated one here:
Hornets get Lamarcus Aldridge, Brandon Roy and Nicholas Batum.
Blazers get Chris Paul, Trevor Ariza and Patrick Ewing Jr.
Just the way it should be: Hornets are projected to win eight more games after that trade, Blazers stay even.)

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It's incredibly funny that even when the Angels make, arguably, their biggest free agent signing ever, they STILL end up getting blown out of the L.A. headlines.

There are conflicting reports right now that Emeka Okafor might get sent to the Lakers as part of this deal, which would be a huge bonus. (EDIT: At least one ESPN Radio talking head is confirming this.)

The Lakers' starting five looks like this at the moment:
G - Chris Paul
G - Kobe Bryant
F - MettaRon World Artestapeace
F - Matt Barnes
C - Andrew Bynum

(Notable bench players: Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Emeka Okafor, Luke Walton)

That's a pretty good lineup on paper. But if the Dwight Howard domino falls, look out! It feels likely, because the Lakers could just take on one of Orlando's bad contracts as part of the deal (either Turkoglu or Arenas) and then turn around and amnesty the guy, anyway! Orlando would then amnesty their remaining bad contract, Lakers enjoy the first year of their superteam, Lakers offer extensions to their new stars (which become affordable since Artest and Luke Walton are coming off the books soon), and Orlando is suddenly in the clear cap-wise. Everybody wins!

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Unless they get Howard, this doesn't really help the Lakers. Their strength, besides Kobe, was their height, and they traded that away. Yes, they have Bynum, but he is so brittle that I'm sure he'll end up in Portland some day. Now, if they get Howard, I'll wish they kept the lockout.
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Word is the league vetoed the deal for not being in the best intrest of the league.

Are you kidding me the Hornets will never be able to match the haul they were getting in this deal. Unreal.
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Word is the league vetoed the deal for not being in the best intrest of the league.

    Are you kidding me the Hornets will never be able to match the haul they were getting in this deal. Unreal.


What the hell is this? Communism? The owners throw a fit and the trade's off? Why? To conveniently set up Paul to the Knicks and kill the Lakers' chemistry in one fell swoop?

This is a CONSPIRACY! C-O-N...SPIRACY!




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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Word is the league vetoed the deal for not being in the best intrest of the league.
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Normally I'd raise an eyebrow about other owners stepping in to have a trade vetoed (even for a team that's temporarily league-owned). But, since it's the Lakers, bwa ha ha ha. Poetic justice for when they heisted Gasol from Memphis.



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    Originally posted by It's False
    What the hell is this? Communism? The owners throw a fit and the trade's off? Why? To conveniently set up Paul to the Knicks and kill the Lakers' chemistry in one fell swoop?

    This is a CONSPIRACY! C-O-N...SPIRACY!

That was my first thought, too.

And you know what? GOOD RIDDANCE. If any team deserved egg on their face like this, it's the Lakers. Glad to see that the days of them making out like bandits in trades are at an end.

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Poetic justice for when they heisted Gasol from Memphis.

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Ok, I know BigDaddyLoco (who pointed out the fairness of this trade) will back me up on this or, at the very least, DJFrostyFreeze will back me up. But saying this was the Gasol Hijacking Part II is laughable.

Exactly what part of this trade wasn't fair? Lamar Odom, reigning 6th Man of the Year and a guy that people have said for years would be a top guy on any other team, going to New Orleans? Current All-Star Pau Gasol going to Houston? Oh, it must be Chris Paul going to the Lakers, which is a sure-fire slam dunk...except it isn't. Chris Paul spent a bulk of last season wobbling around in a knee brace bigger than my head. This was a high-risk move, because there's no telling if Paul's knees would ever break on him and he could just as easily wind up being a dud. It's the highest reward, yes, but it's also incredibly high-risk. People need to stop acting like this was somehow the equivalent of Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol, because that's total nonsense.

I also have a big problem with the precedent this creates. We all loathe the way teams like the Yankees and Lakers do business. It's part of being a sports fan. But up until now, no one has ever infringed on their right to do business. Now there are owners literally infringing on teams' rights to do business with players. A bunch of us were talking about Capitalism in the Albert Pujols thread and how no one begrudged Pujols for taking the money, because it's his right to and it's the Angels' right to throw a boatload of money his way. But this? This is the antithesis of Capitalism. A team is being STOPPED from progressing and being forced into stagnation before our eyes. What's to say this won't happen to the Knicks later on? Or the Heat? Or the Mavericks? Or the Celtics? Hell, it may already be happening in New Jersey!

This is a total farce. I'm glad Chris Paul is looking into his legal options, because this entire thing is a load of crap.

I'm not interested in following a league that forces equality down everyone's throats. You want to create equality organically? Do what the NFL does! But don't run with this farce.

EDIT:

Just saw Dan Gilbert's email on SportsCenter. What a whining little pansy. And all over a team that isn't even in his conference!

(edited by It's False on 9.12.11 0135)


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If this type of thing is such a huge issue then why did the lockout end?

I actually think Houston was getting the short end of the stick on this deal. I am a Knicks fan, so this trade doesn't thrill me, but I don't see how you win a title with Andrew Bynum as your best big man even with Paul and Bryant.

It does make me wonder what kind of precedent has been set here and what this does to free agency that just started.

(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 9.12.11 0639)
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There is very little precedent to be set since this only was able to happen due to the Hornets being owned by the league.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this trade is revisited if/when Dwight Howard gets traded to the Nets. Much of the consternation over the deal was because it seemed like part 1 of the Paul/Howard combo platter. If Howard is off the table then the league might let this through with a minor change or two to the deal (Lakers throw an extra draft pick in or something). Of course if the Lakers can't get Howard do they even want this deal at that point?



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    Originally posted by spf
    There is very little precedent to be set since this only was able to happen due to the Hornets being owned by the league.


In this sport maybe. But it's possible the NBA owners saw what MLB did to the Expos when they owned them.
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I find it ironic that so many people are acting happy the trade is off because it prevents the Lakers from getting better since they totally forget that it just makes it that much easier for Paul to join the Knicks later on. It's still the big market team getting the all star, only it's on the other coast. At least with the Laker trade, NO would had gotten something back to build their team with. Paul is just going to screw them after this season to go to the Big Apple and they'll have nothing to show for it because Dan Gilbert is still a petty jackass.













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Time for LINKS!

The latest is that the Lakers, Rockets, and Hornets are all appealing the blocked trade. Considering the HUGE backlash that this action is creating, I'd have to imagine the trade goes through...especially if Dwight Howard ends up with the Nets today (EDIT: Oops, NOPE! Looks like we now have tampering charges. For the love of Christ...), which destroys half the argument in Comic Sans Boy's email.

As for talking heads, notorious Laker hater Bill Simmons is saddened by what happened. Yes, even Bill Simmons believes this was a travesty, mostly because this pretty much sabotages all three teams involved and kills off their season before it even begins. Good luck getting all those guys to play for you again after this near-miss!

But that's nothing compared to Michael Wilbon, who just lambastes the parties involved.

    If, as many suspect, owners are still angry because they didn't think they got a good enough deal and they didn't want to ratify something that didn't do enough for small-market clubs, they should have had the guts to say no to the new CBA. But if, as a group, the owners accepted it, then they should have the decency to live with it, which is surely what the league and owners would tell the players.

    What eats at many NBA owners is this: They aren't NFL owners. They don't share a big enough cut of the revenues. They don't have an unending stream of television money. Their arenas aren't at about 95 percent capacity. They aren't a national obsession. And their small-market teams aren't flush, in most cases, like the Packers or Steelers are. They can't just cut players and get rid of their salaries, which aren't guaranteed in the NFL. They want control, big control, like the NFL teams have and they don't. They don't want the LeBrons and D-Wades hooking up on their own terms.

    And after a lockout that was supposed to drive this point home, they damn sure don't want Chris Paul forcing his way out of New Orleans to go to New York or Los Angeles. Don't these players understand why they were locked out all that time?


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    Originally posted by It's False
    Ok, I know BigDaddyLoco (who pointed out the fairness of this trade) will back me up on this or, at the very least, DJFrostyFreeze will back me up. But saying this was the Gasol Hijacking Part II is laughable.

Oh, it definitely isn't. The Lakers weren't giving up enough, of course, but it wasn't the snowjob that the Gasol deal was. The NBA rejecting this deal is simply karma coming back to haunt LA for the ridiculously one-sided nature of the Gasol one.

    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    I find it ironic that so many people are acting happy the trade is off because it prevents the Lakers from getting better since they totally forget that it just makes it that much easier for Paul to join the Knicks later on. It's still the big market team getting the all star, only it's on the other coast. At least with the Laker trade, NO would had gotten something back to build their team with. Paul is just going to screw them after this season to go to the Big Apple and they'll have nothing to show for it because Dan Gilbert is still a petty jackass.

1. Big difference in perception between NY and LA, and it's all because of the number of championships each team has (16 for LA, 2 for NY). So while NY is just as big a market, the outrage would be less severe if CP3 goes there instead of LA because of the comparative lack of success in NY.

2. That said, if NY completes the deal with Tyson Chandler, they're not going to have the cap space to sign CP3 as a free agent unless they dump him (or Stoudemire or Anthony) after the season.

(edited by Texas Kelly on 9.12.11 1243)


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