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Okay, as you can see from my sig I'm pretty psyched for the release of Red Dragon in a few weeks. HOWEVER, there's been some mega negative rumblings, especially as it concerns Brett Ratner as director The film's got a stellar cast (Hopkins, Norton, Keitel, Seymour Hoffman, Watson, Feinnes-ALL IN ONE FILM), it's got Silence screenwriter Ted Tally, AND Silence's production designer Kristy Zea. Personally I am stoked for it, especially considering the only alternative we have is the ultra-80s Manhunter. Anybody else got an opinion?




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It can't be any worse than Hannibal. Well, it CAN, but at least it doesn't have Julianne "Can't Decide Whether or Not to Use Southern Accent" Moore in it.



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What's wrong with waffling on an accent? Helen Hunt did that in "As Good As It Gets" and won an Oscar. Only part of that movie I really, REALLY can't stand, too.



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Hannibal is underrated. It obviously is nowhere near the level of SOTL, but it's a solid three-star film. The aura of campy baroque just OOZING from it is palpable. Although, agreed, Julianne Moore just WASN'T Clarice.




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I love Red Dragon the book and one of the thing that I dislike about Manhunter is its deviation from the book, especially regarding the William Blake stuff. I'm happy to see that it apparently has been restored.

I hold out hope, but I wish they could have used more of the Manhunter cast (Peterson, Farina) or mixed it with the SOL cast (Scott Glenn).





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In order to be good, the movie MUST have the scene where he eats the painting of the Red Dragon. Manhunter didn't have that scene and I hated the movie as a result (although admittedly, it was a decent movie). The trailers for Red Dragon look decent though, so it probably won't suck...
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The NYC painting-eating scene is all present and correct.




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If you've read the book, you say to yourself, how can this movie not rule? Seriously, the book was one of the best I've read, and the best in the series by far (at least in my opinion). However, I recently heard from friends who somehow acquired a copy of part of the movie (don't ask), and they say that Hannibal Lecter's role is much larger than it is in the book. As much as I like Anthony Hopkins, this may ruin it.



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If the movie is half as good as the book, it is going to rule all.
Yes, Hannibal was ultimate suckage, but the book was ultimate suckage, too. Red Dragon was an incredible book and I would recommend it to anyone.
The decision to cast Ralph Fiennes as Francis Dolarhyde is genius, in my opinion. Plus, I like anything involving Edward Norton. He's my other Gary Oldman. :-)



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Red Dragon will rule. Oscars all around!

Red Dragon birthed Silence, and Silence got raped and had Hannibal. It's a damned ugly metaphor, but when they change the main character's actress and don't mention anything about it...and change the story around to suit themselves, it's stupid.

Just look at [Red Dragon Director Brett] Ratner's interviews: He wants it to be an almost direct interpretation of the book. Which means it'll rule. I'm reading Red Dragon now... *shudders* Damn it's good.



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It's too bad that they already used the *actual* Gary Oldman for a Silence movie. I would have preferred to see him as the lead in this movie.

Doesn't anyone think that Norton might be the wrong choice for the role? That was the first thing I thought when I heard the cast. He's just too young. I believe the character is supposed to be late-30s/early-40s in the book. And Norton will probably look 32/33 until the day he dies. An older actor from the Nicholas Cage, Tom Hanks, Jeff Daniels, Kevin Spacey range would seem to fit better. I always got the feeling that the character had a "I've seen too much of this/I'm too old for this" mentality.

I'm just worried that between a too-young Norton, and a too-old Hopkins ~they're going to digitally de-age him? Oy~ I'll be too distracted from the story itself.
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I'm actually looking forwards to this one, as I was disappointed in Hannibal. (The book and the movie..)

I've got tickets to an advance screening next Tuesday and if all goes well, I'll let you know what I thought...without any spoilers.





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