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WHAT WORKED:

TKG: Batista got to do a lot of mic work tonight. He's fun on the mic. I enjoyed his interactions with Bischoff. I don't get the whole thing as it sets up Bischoff as face. I also briefly liked the Mave/ Batista mic work when I thought they were doing Maven as Schibetta attacking Schillinger in the workshop angle. They pussied out on that so fuck them.

TKG: King Mabel vs. Shelton Benjamin was the best match on this show. People who were pimping Angle vs. Rey from last weeks Smackdown need to watch this. I don't understand how these two managed to work a more focused match but than Angle and Rey but they did. Mabel doesnt really have alot of offense but liked his varieties of splashes in corner as he used it to hit different parts of Benjamin. I hope Benjamin watches this match later since I don't think maven uses the Stinger splash as effectively as Maven. The transition Mabel bump where he eats drop toe hold into bottom turnbuckle was set up nicely and worked well. It wasn't as effective as when he ate it into a trashcan in the weapons submission match against Moe. Still nice underdog keeping getting cut off against monster match. Viscera is so much better at this than Tomko.

PAS: This wasn't as good as Mo v. Mabel weapons match, might have been better then Lawler/Mabel v. Sexy Assassins. I think Viscera would be a fine Stevie Richards bodyguard on Heat, he could have good matches with Venis, Rodney Mack, Custom Chuckie P, Rosey. Compare this match to that awful Snitsky v. Eugene mess and you can see the value of a veteran hand like Mabel.

PAS: I am amused that the only way to get real heel heat in wrestling now is to complain about stereotyping. Simply Luscious would make a really amusing Move-On.org protester demanding that Hassan get a title shot. They just fired A-Train he would have been really great as his bisexual self hating Jewish lawyer.

TKG: Where does Dougie Gilbert's love child work?

PAS: A one off Dougie v. Nova match to avenge his kid getting beaten would be a fine PPV heat killer, then you could segue into the Dark Patriot joining the Luscious, Hassan, A-Train stable.

TKG: THE DARK PATRIOT ACT!!! Now thats a stable.

WHAT DIDN'T WORK:

TKG: People shit on hardcore matches as being something anyone can do. Well these two guys can't. You watch Eugene vs. Snitsky hardcore rules and you realize "Wow neither of these guys have the ring polish of New Jack".

PAS: I have a feeling you could grab any two yarders from the crowd of a CZW show (or two yarders from the locker-room of a CZW show) and they could put on a more entertaining match, probably better selling and transitions too.

TKG: Wow that Helmsley promo was great. Someone needs to transcribe that, cause it really felt like he was channeling Hogan burning the Observer.

PAS: So they are coming off their worst PPV ever, and clearly in restart mode and they decide that their restart solution is to focus the show even more on Helmsley? This really feels like Dusty demanding all the wrestlers mention his name during their promos. Their house shows are getting outdrawn by Shawn O'Haire mainevented UPW shows, and Fidel Sierra working mascara contra cabellera, I wouldn't be bragging about being the guy responsible for putting butts in seats.

TKG: So during the battle royale two weeks ago I notice how well Christian and Helms work together and think "ooh I want to see that singles match" Well tats not the way I wanted to see it. I don't think Schiavonne Zbysco and Heenan ever buried a match and two wrestlers as badly as this was buried tonight. I was amused at Shane Helms who worked in WCW under Russo knowing how to work this type of match. Helms worked at least 15 plastic-duck-on-a-pole three-way dance match against Knobbs/Al Greene and the Mamalukes where the camera was focused on Miss Hancock while Buff Bagwell was shooting on the mic. Helms works an extended headlock. Christian didn't work under that Russo period and keeps trying to work spots.

TKG: Fuck get Benoit off this show and back onto Heat where you can have good matches.

TKG: Why are the heels working a handicap match? Helmsley says that Raw won't draw without him on top and then books Maven as a main eventer. I remember how great Tajiri was as FIP in Evolution tags. Instead the camera man blows Tajiri's Helmsley mist spot and Maven is working this. Enjoyed all the faces heeling on Flair match and enjoyed Flair's extended sell of groin shot. He sold it like when you get hit hard in the groin...first your down but still even after recovering your wind the pain just keeps nagging at you. The format of the match also allowed Flair/Batista to try to work as Kikuchi/Kobashi. Its not a good role for them but it was kind of fun to watch.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
"TKG: People shit on hardcore matches as being something anyone can do. Well these two guys can't. You watch Eugene vs. Snitsky hardcore rules and you realize "Wow neither of these guys have the ring polish of New Jack"."

Pure genius.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
    Originally posted by tomk
    TKG: Wow that Helmsley promo was great. Someone needs to transcribe that, cause it really felt like he was channeling Hogan burning the Observer.

    PAS: So they are coming off their worst PPV ever, and clearly in restart mode and they decide that their restart solution is to focus the show even more on Helmsley? This really feels like Dusty demanding all the wrestlers mention his name during their promos. Their house shows are getting outdrawn by Shawn O'Haire mainevented UPW shows, and Fidel Sierra working mascara contra cabellera, I wouldn't be bragging about being the guy responsible for putting butts in seats.


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