I missed this last Monday but through magic of Tivo caught it Tuesday and so could still respond to Phil here and there.
Okay so Tom is AWOL tonight, my guess is tomorrow morning some poor 22 year old fat girl is going to wake up with an infection and a story to tell at her first AA meeting.
TKG:AWW. Fat is such a loaded word. They can't all be diva contestants. And besides which you gots to be THICK to take my punishing LOVE. I don't want to break a girl.
PAS: I liked Orton's promo, the cocky smile, the taunting pasty Canadians to expose what the lack of sun will do to white people, the suit. Really the start of a nice heel championship run.. oops.
PAS: I like Molly's short hair, think they could do a really nice Molly + Jazz real athletes tag team. Sort of play up their athleticism and try to attract the same fan base that draws so huge for the Mystics here in DC.
PAS: Gail Kim and Victoria work a perfectly fine little match. This actually had the feel of a pair of Indy guys working their standard match as a first round of a Super 8, kind of like Mikey Batts v. Naphtali or Rob Eckos v. Josh Daniels or Derek Wylde v. Cody Steele. I usually don't like Indy touring matches but this was pretty crisp.
TKG:Parts of it felt like an indy touring match. Reversal of reversal rope running, two signature bumps, this show off our stiffness spot, hot near falls. The early rope running reversal spot felt like something they had really worked around the horn. But most indy touring matches are layed out as really 2.9 matches. This had the near falls without feeling too 2.9ish. Most indy touring matches have reversals as transition. This one had Victoria's Harley Race bump as transition and for most part was worked as veteran vs. upstart match with Victoria controling most of the offense.
PAS: Batista beats Jericho's ass and I enjoy it. Jericho takes a nice asswhipping, but these matches really expose how dainty most of his offense looks. I just don't buy him hurting Batista at all. Still this was damn fun, Batista is going to be really great in his role of enforcer for heel champ Orton...ooops.
TKG:Bah. Watch again. Jericho was really stiff in this. I normally don't dig the Jericho vs. big man matches. But here he didn't do most of his signature little guy springboard drop kick against big guy signature spots but instead really layed in with forearms and kicks. Just because he does a shitty WWE bulldog doesn't mean he was working loose...Jericho was working really tight which made Batistas potatoes look even more nasty as you felt it was a fight.
PAS: Helmsley giving Orton some advice before the title match was really great. It is way too early to show dissension, as HHH should be put in the backround for a while, sidedrain him into a bloody feud with Regal. Have him play the mentor role, until he finally can't take it anymore. Maybe in a month or two, have Orton starting blowing off the advice a bit, have him be too big for his britches. Then once Orton is established big you can have Helmsley lose it and challenge for the belt. They did a nice job setting up the slow burn here....ooops
PAS: Damn that main event was good. I really liked the story of a furious Beniot throwing everything he had at a worn out Orton, and then the one mistake allowing Orton to take over a bit. I remember the first time Orton busted out his chinlock of doom it looking really stupid, but it has gotten really nasty looking now. I also like after Orton wins clean the previous night, him basically being beat the next, but needing help from his crew. Really sets up a nice long feud between Beniot and Orton with Beniot coming real close, but having to chase the arrogant heel for the belt. Really classic wrestling storytelling, and can really chew up 3 or 4 months of shows....oops.
TKG: Ok before the PPV, Powell at WWEapologists.com wrote " Believe it or not, Benoit has a reputation in some circles for not being able to carry lesser opponents to great matches. Wrestlers who make that claim say that while Benoit is capable of having great matches with equal opponents, but carrying wrestlers isn't one of his strengths. The good news is that Orton shouldn't need to be carried."
Reading that reminded me of how much I really liked Benoit vs. Original Handsome Stranger in 92. Nise Handsome Stranger is alot better than the original but unsure if I liked this match better. I liked the story of Orton as guy who partied so hard after winning belt that he was too dehydrated to mount much of offense. Orton does a lot of schtick. 50% of it works and 50% makes you go "What the fuck is he doing?" Liked the thing where he fishhooked himself, laughed at the thing where he clapped his hands in the air before taking a face bump.
What Didn't Work
TKG:Benoit completely dissapears after match. Huh? Does Helmsley think Benoit is black?
PAS: A longish Rhyno v. Greineir singles match? I know McMahon wants to punish Canadians for Bret Hart or something, but there is no need to punish the people watching the show too. Jesus at least RF had his pony get beat up on the outside by the Carnage Crew, he didn't give him the tag belts.
PAS: How did they find a Black girl with that flat of an ass? Did you see the size of her head? She looked like a lollipop. Or an integrated Family Circus character. Who puked all over the bathroom? NOT ME!
TKG: IDA KNOW!
PAS: If this Kane wedding angle was done with Bull Pain, Miss Samantha and Bill Dundee it would actually be pretty great. It isn't so its not. Bull Pain v. Kevin White to set up a Dundee run in, would have been alot better then this desultory Kane v. Edge match too.
TKG: Speaking of angles being done with wrong person. Its bad enough that WWE tries to rerun the Luger vs. Windham "we want Flair" title match. But at least Herd had the common decency to fire Flair. Vince instead has him jobbing to Oliver Humperdink in a 13 minute midcard match.
PAS: WWE decides to fast forward their booking six months for no good reason. No reason to let Orton get over or anything before you cut his legs out. I imagine Helsmley will run through Orton by Royal Rumble before he recycles Jericho for another heatless WM semi-main. Why couldn't Stephanie by a size queen, then at least we would get to see El Dandy or Mike Jones bury everyone. Hell Robert Fuller is taller and better on the mike.
50!?!? No way my boy Bret is 50. More like 43-45. He is my absolute all-time favourite always. But, no offense, what exactly is your point? Really need better title thread is addition to formatting if you want people to read.