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The 5th Horseman
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Since: 23.10.02
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#21 Posted on

    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    The point of it was, HHH is the best wrestler alive....IN HIS OWN MIND!!!!!!!! See my post in the other thread if you're still not getting it.


What??? That might make sense if HHH did the promo but, Ric Flair did the promo. Are you insisting that Flair gave a promo about what was in HHH's mind?
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.65
I enjoyed RAW immensely. I think I'm immune to the negatives.



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Since: 17.6.02
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#23 Posted on
Did anyone else notice that sick chairshot Jamal took? He didn't even block! That's gotta hurt!





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#24 Posted on
There's nothing wrong with putting someone over this strong if they made their opponents look good along the way and built up the challengers, instead of burying all the potential stars of the company.

See, we're all the dumb ones, this is just a brilliant storyline with a great main eventer that is lighting the world on fire.
Austin Bradshaw vs NWO 59
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#25 Posted on
YEAH MAN I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT PEOPLE THINK EITHER RAW ROCKED!

Can you believe that man!? HBK jumped off the freakin truck!!!...........into a pile of shredded paper! TOTALLY AWESOME!

That promo with HBK and Jeff hardy was SWEEEEET! I haven't seen such great acting work since my little cousin's Peter Pan school play! AWESOME!

AND OH MY GAWD the main event was sweeet like little bo peep! All 90 run-ins made it such a fun match. AWESOME!

Who cares what everyone else thought, RAW WAS AWESOME!!!



Flair: "Tonight, it's gonna be Austin, Bradshaw, taking on the NWO!

(Next Monday...)

Flair: I'm not trying to screw you Austin. Tonight, to show that I'm legit, I'll referre your match tonight when you and bradshaw take on the n..w..o!

(Next monday...)

Flair: You thought that was funny Austin? No one screws with the nature boy! tonight, it's gonna be you and bradshaw taking on X-pac and Big Show!

(Next Monday...)

Flair:That's it, you have pissed of the nature boy WHOOO for the very last time Austin!! Tonight I throwing your ass in a special tag match against the NWO. And your partner is gonna be.........Bradshaw!
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#26 Posted on
Yeah, Flair cut the promo (which was AMAZING). Do you guys remember your Horsemen history? Seeing as you guys pride yourself on all that good stuff and everything, what was the sole purpose of the Horsemen? TO KEEP THE BELT ON FLAIR. What do you think Flair's doing right now? The Nature Boy sees Trips as the heir apparent, and what are they doing? GETTING THE BELT BACK TO HHH, however they can. Flair's just feeding the ego trip of HHH right now, because of how Ric plays the game, pun semi-intended.
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#27 Posted on
Amen...Flair's speech was balls out awesome. He is HHH's manager! He is SUPPOSED to say things like that! Don't let your hatred of HHH blind you!



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Since: 12.10.02
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#28 Posted on
HHH has Horsemen? Where?

Flair kept the belt at all costs but he sold, he sold and he sold some more. He was the greatest worker who made lumbering slugs look like world beaters. He gave his opponents everything because he was *THAT* confident in his abilities.

Triple H hardly sells, wrestles like a babyface, and never shows weakness. Thus, no one, even in defeat, gets close to his level.

I'm glad you're digging this GREAT storyline, with Triple H as the main focus of the show that is dieing.
BoromirMark
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#29 Posted on
Triple H didn't seel Hardy's attacks? Really? Wow, guess HHHaters really have become truly blind, in their hate.
The 5th Horseman
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#30 Posted on

    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    Yeah, Flair cut the promo (which was AMAZING). Do you guys remember your Horsemen history? Seeing as you guys pride yourself on all that good stuff and everything, what was the sole purpose of the Horsemen? TO KEEP THE BELT ON FLAIR. What do you think Flair's doing right now? The Nature Boy sees Trips as the heir apparent, and what are they doing? GETTING THE BELT BACK TO HHH, however they can. Flair's just feeding the ego trip of HHH right now, because of how Ric plays the game, pun semi-intended.


Look at my first post in the thread. I agree that the promo was great and it did the job of putting over the HHH-HBK match but, it was still BS. Also, I'm glad that you brought up the fact that Flair needed the Four Horsemen to help him keep the title. That's what heels are supposed to do. They are supposed to get help while the babyface fights against the odds and gives people a reason to get behind the babyface while cheering against the dastardly heel. Heel Flair never won a match while the referee blatantly cheated to help the babyface but, heel HHH did last week. That's part of the antagonism toward HHH. It's not about people hating HHH, it's about people hating the way he sucks the heat and credibility away from others while doing things that serve no purpose other than building HHH up more. That's not necessary. HHH and the WWE need to realize that HHH being built up more and more does nothing if he doesn't have other guys built up to oppose him.
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Since: 12.10.02
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#31 Posted on
Watching HHH against Jeff Hardy tonight was like watching an old Superstars squash match. Jeff got in some token offense but it was Pedigree and move onto the real issue at hand because Jeff Hardy is nothing.

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#32 Posted on
I realize the importance of building up a heel for a PPV, but was there a purpose in completely obliterating Jeff Hardy YET AGAIN? It's like every time he crawls out of obscurity, Triple H or Undertaker are always there to make him go SQUISH again.




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#33 Posted on

    Originally posted by Wonderful1
    A better title for this thread is "RAW was boring."

    RAW's main problem is that it doesn't have the talent depth of Smackdown. The matches were not compelling, Jeff Hardy has no business wrestling, RVD vs. Batista is wrong on so many levels, etc. Tonight's best match, the mixed tag, would be the second worst match on a typical Smackdown. And boy was said match overbooked. What a way to kill the heat building during the match, although there was way too much stalling for this particular match. Either run-ins in no-DQ matches should either end quickly or they take place after the match. The run-ins lasted forever and didn't add anything to this match or the upcoming pay-per-view match.

    The worse thing is, the show didn't even end there. I turned the TV at that point because as far as I was concerned the show was over.

    The main event summed up the show perfectly, it just dragged on.

    Wonderful1



Yeah, they didn't add anything to the pay-per-view. Cuz it's not like those four teams have a match at said pay-per-view or anything, do they?
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#34 Posted on
Um, yeah, they do...a 4 team elimination match for the belts. That match is going to be super sweet. Call me crazy...I know that Storm and Regal are the ones getting the push now, but I think this finally could be Book and Goldy's turn!



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#35 Posted on
In my books, it was a damn good show. The promos tonight served their purposes and we quite good to me. Flair's promo tonight made me drop my thoughts of hating HHH Vs. HBK yet again. Flair SOLD the match tonight, with an awesome promo of yore.

The matches were enjoyable and it's the first time in a while that I can say that. I loved the card, even Jackie Vs. Steven Richards. That tag match rocked all over the place. You knew there were going to be run ins, but I can't get over that powerbomb Trish put on Victoria through the table.

The only thing I can gripe about is the commercial breaks, but that's probably because so many people bitched about it last week, that Vince gave us TWO commercial breaks during crucial parts of the show.

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#36 Posted on
"Watching HHH against Jeff Hardy tonight was like watching an old Superstars squash match. Jeff got in some token offense but it was Pedigree and move onto the real issue at hand because Jeff Hardy is nothing."

Sorry, just had to laugh at that for a second. Jeff Hardy could get squashed by every main eventer on both shows for six weeks and I wouldn't complain. He's THAT bad. And, unless I'm very much mistaken, most people agree with me. So don't go changing your views of guys just because it suits the Almighty HHH Death Philosophy.







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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
I agree... next week, let's have WWE sign Stu Hart to a one-night-only deal so he can squash Jeff Hardy!

Then we'll bring back Avalanche, Kamala, and Giant Gonzales to really make Jeff go squish.

To be honest, I could really give a damn if Jeff Hardy gets obliterated night in and night out. In my opinion, Jeff has no business being in that ring. The guy is seriously screwed up... has a headful of bad wiring or something, can't keep it straight up here. He's one of those guys who couldn't see the train until it was two feet in front of him. So naturally he ends up... WITH HIS LIGHTS OUT! Now you wanna get nuts?!? C'mon... let's get nuts.

Oh, sorry... that's a good movie, though. Anyway... as much as I dislike Jeff, I like Matt quite a bit. It's strange how they've gone in completely opposite directions. With just a little buildup, I wouldn't at all mind seeing Matt win the WWE Championship, while I feel that Jeff should be out of the business entirely.



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#38 Posted on
Random Raw Thoughts:

I liked the BookerDust segment.

AWESOME promo by Flair.

I enjoyed the RVD-Batista match. Of course they had to put Kane against 3-Minute Warning which I didn't like.

Stacey looked hot in that Christmas outfit.


RNN was funny.

Overall, a so-so RAW that had its moments.

(edited by tomvejada on 10.12.02 0513)


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#39 Posted on

    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Well, in my book, RVD getting involved w/ Kane & 3MW doesn't seem like a step up for a guy who was competing for the title 1 month ago, and #1 contender for the belt 3 weeks ago.
True, but SOMEBODY has to put the new talent over, and who else on the roster who is established is going to do that? Answer: NOBODY.

I thought RAW was pretty good overall. I still like an occasional dose of "KANE IS A BIG RED DORK" ("hellooooooo Morley.") I liked the main, even if JR and Lawler didn't ever seem to know when they were going to be cut off for a commercial break. I liked the Michaels/HHH segments. Flair's promo was great. The truck bit could have ended with Michaels landing in the big poof-o-paper though. We really didn't need his promo, and it might have been more effective to leave us wondering if either survived that stunt.

My favorite part of the show had to be Jericho's segment with Trish where he took Hogan's book and started making up his own version of it. That's the kind of stuff that Jericho shines at.




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#40 Posted on

    Originally posted by InVerse
    Yeah, RVD sure was being buried. First, a big monster who's been destroying people has to have help from Flair to keep RVD from beating him yet still doesn't manage to pin RVD and then RVD comes in and helps Kane beat down 3 other guys. Not to mention he got to punk out the general manager & chief of staff. If RVD gets anymore buried, he just might win the title.


(covers ears) LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU RVD IS BEING BURIED LA LA LA LA!

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