All this time, I thought Rampage would be better at the skit stuff than that. The skits were hokey indeed, but he was terrible.
Something no one else has pointed out yet (maybe for good reason?): If the Season 1 roster revolted against WWE, where does that leave the Season 2 cast? Wouldnt it seem odd that the ENTIRE Season 1 cast is so pissed off at how things turned out, but then the Season 2 guys show up and just play nice like nothing happened? Maybe it's just weird to me, dammit.
And this may come off as blasphemous, but Bret Hart isnt a very good GM. He doesnt seem to care about anything. He just shows up, makes matches, and exits. I thought he'd be more involved in storylines or something, but I guess he cant get too involved since he'll never ever bump for anyone.
This was one of the worst shows I have ever seen (but I guess little of the blame goes towards the fans' voting on the stipulations) but the WWE still had the worst type of stipulations for just about all the matches.
The sad thing about Raw was that Sheamus and Kane was the best match and it is hard to get anything good out of Kane. Perhaps this one was the best because there was no korny stipulations but a vote of who would face the Celtic Warrior.
I thought CM Punk and John Cena was going to be a good match or entertaining to say the least but when every NXT rookie jumped both superstars and continued their assault on John Cena, I was thinking, "What exactly is the purpose of this?" As geemoney pointed out in his report, it probably was an attempt or desperate measure to get people to tune in for season 2 of NXT.
I watched Raw on youtube and almost said "the hell with this episode" after Khali and Hornswoggle were picked to face the Hart Dynasty and the A-Team storyline on Raw had me putting my face in my palm. If Hot Rod was going to bash or get in the grill of someone, it should have been the Uso's because at least they have lineage to Snuka.
Worst 3 hour special I have ever seen of Raw and hopefully if they do allow voting for another time, the WWE will pick better stipulations cuz last night's Raw was simply atrocious.
I had already turned off Raw, but on a whim flipped the on switch to the TV at exactly the moment this started going down.
Now THAT'S how you do an invasion angle. It just seemed chaotic and was even weird to see the boards under the ring canvas after all these years of watching.
I felt bad for the live crowd to have to leave on a down note. The last Raw I went to was when Austin and HHH just beat the holy hell out of the Hardys and Lita and everyone just kinda moped back to their cars shrugging.
I was excited to get tickets to the 6/21 Raw, now even all the better.
Good as it was, I couldn't help thinking how Cena never gets help, whether it's this or the beatdowns from Batista. You mean none of the wrestlers could run out for the save? Remember the days when Hacksaw could run out with his 2x4 or Jake would clear the ring with his snake?
Originally posted by dwaters Good as it was, I couldn't help thinking how Cena never gets help, whether it's this or the beatdowns from Batista. You mean none of the wrestlers could run out for the save? Remember the days when Hacksaw could run out with his 2x4 or Jake would clear the ring with his snake?
Maybe that's why it makes sense...he's the champ, why would you wanna come out and help the champ, when now after the 8 on 1 beatdown, the mighty Cena is a little less mighty. He has the biggest target on his back, and they all had their sights set on it.
As far as the mastermind, I think it's Barrett..he gave the subtle nod for the rest of the group to go ahead and close in on Cena. A day later, it's still incredible, and something I gave thought to several times at work today...which is something I haven't done in a while, reminisce (sp?) about what I saw on Raw or SD the night before.
Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze And this may come off as blasphemous, but Bret Hart isnt a very good GM. He doesnt seem to care about anything. He just shows up, makes matches, and exits. I thought he'd be more involved in storylines or something, but I guess he cant get too involved since he'll never ever bump for anyone.
Up until the Drew angle, Teddy Long was hardly involved in feuds either. Well, he has that annoying face-bias where he pretty much screws the heels over all the time, but he only makes matches and exits.
It's actually refreshing compared to the stuff where the show centers around the GM.
FWIW, it looks like the invasion angle is spreading to FCW house shows now. Can't help but wonder if they're giving a Miz face turn a trial run. An angle like this could be all he needs to go main event.
1. I know wrestling is supposed to be fake and we can't think of these things logically and we have to lose ourselves in the moment and just let our imagination go and blah blah blah, but where the hell was the security there? I'm watching this and granted, I didn't expect other wrestlers to help (although where was Cena's friend Mark Henry?), but why wouldn't Bret Hart send some security out there to help out their main guy and revenue generator (theoretically)? 7 of those guys were tresspasing. They should (theoretically) be in jail. I know I shouldn't be thinking of these things, but it's little things like that that take me out of the moment and make me thing "Wait a minute..." I just want SOME logic.
2. The one thing that I REALLY hope doesn't happen is that we find out that Jericho/Miz/Big Show/Cole/Whomever isn't the 'leader' of this group. If they go somewhere with this (and I'm on record as saying in 2 months, this will somehow evolve into Jericho/HHH), let these 8 guys kind of stand on their own. They don't need any 'leader' for credibility. It's a TV show, the writers can give them that by doing things like, oh I don't know, winning matches and beating down big draws. If they make them responsible for the UT Vegetative state and then beat down Kane? There's your credibility right there, without attaching someone to their group.
3. Reason #738 I love wrestling: Cena going on Twitter, in character, giving a shout out to CM Punk for fighting back... even though he tossed them to those guys in the first place.
Kevin Kelly: "Mr. Austin, would you like to comment on Wade Keller's Take that endorsing the XFL hurts your anti-authority character?"
Steve Austin: "Oh shit, he actually said that? I thought the boys in the back were ribbing me!"
Kelly: "No, he really said that. Did they tell you the part about you sitting in the stands, looking all skeptical?"
Austin: "AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah... oh man that was too much."
I think adding Jericho adds credibility and another layer of believability. Jericho has been "screwed" by the WWE time and time again. I would believe him getting in Barrett's ear and using the rooks as fodder in a larger scheme. He doesn't need to be their "leader" he could be subtly manipulating them, to the point where they may not even know it (or at least just Barrett does). That would allow for the face rooks to eventually turn and return to their face roots (im looking at you Gabriel).
We (IWC) dont need the mastermind...but the WWE Universe does.
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Eh, sure the angle's ridiculous, but it's so ridiculous I can't help but sit here and snark it by joining in the discussion about how God would do in the ring against HBK. Trust me, you'll be happier and live longer this way.