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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
Sorry, I had to post this. Sleezy E. That caught me COMPLETLY off guard.

Oh yeah, the rest of RAW so far has been quite good too.



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#2 Posted on
It seems to have got everyone but me

As soon as vince dissolved the NWO, noone else made sence
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#3 Posted on
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#4 Posted on
Well, he's already glomped Vince on stage, pissed all over the Invasion, and dragged almost every single skeleton out of the closet (Raw spoilers, steroid trials, Madusa, signing everyone away from the WWF, etc.). And the NWO just got dragged into the street and shot. On the surface, that looks like a good show... BUT THEN... you get the 6-man elimination match (and Hardy actually looking like he could hang with Benoit y Guerrero), and Dreamer and Richards killing each other for our benefit... hell, this is one of the best first hours I can remember.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
Makes you wonder if Austin saw this coming...



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22

    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    Makes you wonder if Austin saw this coming...


If so, can you blame him for leaving (considering his glorious past with Bischoff)?

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Since: 12.3.02
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#7 Posted on
    Originally posted by Stephanie

      Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
      Makes you wonder if Austin saw this coming...


    If so, can you blame him for leaving (considering his glorious past with Bischoff)?

    Steph



Nahh. . .Austin is an evil, lazy, wife-beating bastard (Not to be confused with Big Show, who is a Big Nasty Bastard) and it's been decided by the IWC at large that he must be shunned and hated and pissed on for the rest human history.

You know, much like HHH is the Most Evil Man In The History Of The Universe, who regularly runs over little old ladies, bites the heads of kittens, and holds other wrestlers down as he plots Operation: Grand Slam, where he will win the belt and increase the title's value by nuking Fort Knox.

I'm exagerrating only a bit here.


(edited by Enojado Viento on 15.7.02 1933)


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#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by Stephanie

      Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
      Makes you wonder if Austin saw this coming...


    If so, can you blame him for leaving (considering his glorious past with Bischoff)?

    Steph



Yes, I can. He had a contract, period. Stop talking about him. He's gone. Get over it.



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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by drjayphd
    Well, he's already glomped Vince on stage, pissed all over the Invasion, and dragged almost every single skeleton out of the closet (Raw spoilers, steroid trials, Madusa, signing everyone away from the WWF, etc.). And the NWO just got dragged into the street and shot. On the surface, that looks like a good show... BUT THEN... you get the 6-man elimination match (and Hardy actually looking like he could hang with Benoit y Guerrero), and Dreamer and Richards killing each other for our benefit... hell, this is one of the best first hours I can remember.



Hell the whole damn show was very good. And...nothing like a little Molly Holly to get Trish and the womens division back on track. My favorite Raw in awhile.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70

    Originally posted by Galidor
    It seems to have got everyone but me

    As soon as vince dissolved the NWO, noone else made sence



What the hell? NWO is gone just like that? What else happened that came out of nowhere?
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#11 Posted on
I really liked the Bradshaw/Bischoff interaction-the clothesline from hell came out of nowhere-great segment.

Maybe they're setting Bradshaw up to be the constant thorn in Bischoff's side.
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#12 Posted on
Bischoff's puss aside, it was a good show. And even Bischoff's introduction during the Booker T interview was really well done.

"The PEDRO MORALES Era"?!? And nothing about Bob Backlund?!?

The kendo stick match was fabulous. Dreamer with the crimson mask. And that last shot that ended the match was almost painful to watch...in a GOOD way.

Shane-o-Mac makes an appearance to save us all...and give away the surprise. I'm sure I'm not the only one who correctly guessed the new GM when he said what he said.

I called my friend who is a huge Bradshaw mark and even she, with her heavy bias towards him, said "That belt really DOES suck." But his surprise clothesline from hell to regain the title had some serious enegery behind it.

Lesnar's promo with the weightlifting was very well laid out.

The main event even was watchable.



(edited by Mr Heel II on 15.7.02 2328)
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#13 Posted on
Well one thing I was cracking up over was Paul Heyman getting Brock Lesnar ready to go, and he says something to extent of (paraphrasing) "can you feel the anticipation? it's better than sex." That just had me rolling, especially when I don't see Paul doing all that well with the ladies, so maybe it isn't too far from the truth for him. Then again I could be wrong, maybe women are throwing themselves at him.


Anyway I enjoyed almost the entire show. It was funny enough to make me laugh, exciting enough to keep me watching and guessing, and the majority of the matches were good.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
    Originally posted by BobHollySTILLRules
    Yes, I can. He had a contract, period. Stop talking about him. He's gone. Get over it.



He still has a contract. I'll get over it when Vince does.

(edited by Jackson on 15.7.02 2139)


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#15 Posted on
Anybody think the goldust walkthrough wasn't known by dreamer and richards... they both had a huge grin on thier face, and dreamer was selling with a smile on his face...
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#16 Posted on
The Richards/Dreamer shared laugh was great, and made their brutality in the ring all the more crazy somehow. That two guys could share a laugh backstage, and then beat the living hell out of each other with canes in the ring is pretty cool. That was my favorite match of the night, strangely enough.

And was it just my imagination, or was Lesnar actually drawing pretty good heat during the main event?



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Since: 12.2.02
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#17 Posted on
My thoughts:

nWo is dead!! Short live nWo!!
Vince, you forgot about the glorious Bob Backlund era!! Oh boy, Mr. Robert B. is definitely coming back, mark my words. Like the part of all the wrestlers surrounding one TV set as vince made his speeches.

25 minutes of Eddy and Benoit to start the night, with a commercial break in between!!!! Yay!! Great, great effort to put Jeff Hardy over. End of the match hit a flat tire, so the rudos knowing it, started to unfold tables in order to play strip poker with Jeff. The Dudleys then invited themselves and the game broke up.

Goldust cameo on the Dreamer-Richards promo, endorsing the Signapore Cane match! Nice. Looks like run-in on promos is the theme tonight.

Signapore Cane match brought the ECW out of Tommy. Now it's official: 'WWE' is lame.

Only if Booker T were to have said that he destroyed nWo, I would mark out even crazier. He never got to bitch-slap Michaels, but at least he got to pretend that Coach was Shawn. Then "I thought I saw a ghost". "Hi Booker". "I did, I did see a ghost"

After the Bischoff "I surrender, Vince, please give me a paycheck" speech. JR and Lawler talked, more liked moaned about it.

Dammit he sucked the air out of the Women's match. At least it had best part of the night:

"Business has just picked up" says JR concluding the moaning of Eric. And then right on cue, Molly enters the arena! Never was JR any better in introducing someone.

Molly jokes actually were toned down this week as she systematically dismantles Trish like stepping on a cigartette roach. Jerry, are you supposed to be a heel announcer?? You jerk.

Eric ignored Bradshaw while saying sorry to UT. Wish we can all do that.

Torrie and Billy are on a date!!!! At Ozzfest no less!! Man, the WWE is really tryng to rub The Osbournes fans to their side, aren't they?

Hardcore match was ok. Then out of nowhere, Jim who??? whacks Brad and wins the title!!

Talk about hot shot, Jim thanked Eric for letting him in. Wow, Eric must have been busy right after he heard the call from Vince. Then clothesline from hell!! (or at least from offscreen). Bradshaw makes sure that Eric doesn't forget him.

Still couldn't believe that UT got suckered into letting Brock turn on him after the match. Hmm, guess punking out RVD wasn't in teh plan after all. All that was missing from Brock's La Parka act was playing chair guitar.

Great show. Hopefully as long as there are no blatant rubs, the show will be all right.



(edited by deadbeater on 15.7.02 2358)


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#18 Posted on
Goldust was fastastic. That had to be a surprise to Stevie and Dreamer. And then both of those two elevated themselves in the ring. It looks lke Tommy has officially dropped eating disgusting things (he never once sucked up a finger of blood) and returned to being the innovator.

And deadbeater, you're right. I can't remember a single big ass joke.

Plus, Brock definitely sounded to me like he was getting a reaction.

The jury's out on Bischoff, but all in all, a good show. I've only got two questions: what will Shane do- finish Thursday's show as the GM of Smackdown or stick around Raw to counter Eric? and What what going on with the dude in the black tank top in the first row?
Spiraling_Shape
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#19 Posted on
What the hell? NWO is gone just like that? What else happened that came out of nowhere?

During Big Show`s entrance, JR said something briefly about "Nash is injured, HBK is _______ (I didn`t catch what he said at all..anyone hear it?), and X-Pac is on a leave of absence." It would`ve been nice for Vince to *explain* this in his opening promo, rather than ramble about "another era" once again.



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#20 Posted on
He said HBK had the night off.
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