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#21 Posted on

    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    By the way, was I the only one who thought that Booker, with his hair done up tonight looked exactly like Busta Rhymes?


you're not the only one, dude.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
That's a nice shoutout to all of Jeff Hardy's fat teenage girls fans; match him up with the one woman on the RAW roster with the totally unattainable body.

I smell a Dudleys/Kane and RVD/Storm and Regal three-way dance at WrestleMania.

I also smell a Steiner/Test match at WrestleMania. Not surprisingly, the scent is closely akin to that of crap.



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#23 Posted on
Well, the good Raw streak (for me anyway) ends at 3, as this weeks show was just brutally boring, with nothing advanced and nothing gained by anyone. Maybe this was the standard "do nothing show" before every major PPV.

In the interest of fairness to HHH, I will say that the Hurricane push is on the verge of death, due to the Rock handling Helms like a jobber after the Rodney Mack match. This only reinforced the ideal that Helms "isn't in his league." I really don't understand the point, Rock has more than enough heat for his fued with Austin (and got to kick his ass too in the same show) and yet they still feel compelled to have him get the heat back from his fluke roll-up win last week (which in itself was only a backdrop for the Austin-Rock feud). While I had no problem with Hurricane winning on a fluke last week because it neither advanced nor detracted from his push, this new sign disturbs me.

Ying says it's Vince's prejudices against smaller guys combined with the fact that the entire Hurricane concept is based on the fact that he's a hopeless, deluded loser who's nothing more than a living comedy skit.

Yang however says that if the Rock could torpedo the Booker T match last week in order to advance his war with Triple H, than Rock could have damn sure went to Vince and demanded to make Helms a star in the same breath.







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#24 Posted on
Raw was awesome tonight. I total grade A show. The only thing I didn't like was the beginning (talking part) of the HHH/ Golddust interview. The rest was good to great effort.

-Kane/RVD vs. Storm/Morley- Hope Regal gets better soon. RVD opens the show again, I don't have too much of a problem, atleast you know the show is going to be hot to begin with. Entertaining match, crowd was totally into RVD which is always a plus... Dudleys came in and I didn't see this swerve coming at all, but they did explain themselves well.

-HHH/Goldust interview- The only part of the show I didn't enjoy, only HHH & Lawler are enjoying Golddust antics, fans seemed to die down quick. Let's drop this Please. Booker run in was super. He was on fire. He looked so main event cleaning house like that.

-Maven vs. Rico- This match got 5 minutes, looks like everythings getting more time tonight. It had a Heat feeling to it without any real storyline. But in ring they did the job well and worked well. I liked their Heat match a few weeks ago and they did a good job bringing it to the "A" show. Nice decent match.

-Hurricane vs. Mack- Maybe worst match of the night. But it wasn't that bad. Mack doesn't show me anything but Hurricane looked good. Rock came in and destroyed him, it's understandable the he'd do that.

-Victoria/Stevie vs. Trish/Jazz- Hopefully they make up for last week. Nice backstage promo by Victoria. Great match, very good job building to their WM match. Jazz walkaway even if I saw it coming was a good heel move and Trish's reaction to it was solid. Victoria looked really on tonite. All girls did, Stevie played his part well as well... Victoria went over to the ring announcing area and grabbed a chair, come on Garcia fight for your friend and don't let Vickie grab a chair that easily. Jeff runs in to save Trish and kisses her. That's an unusual pairing. Maybe they took 2 wrestlers with "rumors" about them(not with eachother)and put them together. Jeff's lucky Victoria took Lil's chair she'd throw it at him. Poor Trish does she really want to get involved with the Team Xtreme wacko's. She thought Victoria was wacko she hasn't seen anything yet if she hangs out with Hardy. Don't know how this helps Trish?

-Jericho/Christian vs. Test/Steiner- I can't believe it a match with Test AND Steiner on the same team and I enjoyed it I mean I really enjoyed it. It looked Christian and especially Jericho were totally on tonight. Test looked like he kept up pretty well. Some nice reversals and decent timing spots. Very enjoyable. Might be best match of the night.

-HHH vs. Goldust- Good match, Goldust looked pretty good out there. Better match then I expected, so that's a good sign, there's a lot of that tonight, better matches then I expected.

-Austin vs. Bischoff- I had no problem with this match or the outcome. Austin doesn't need his first return lose to go to Bischoff. The Rock finally got the one up by getting a couple of shots on Austin one during the match that I bit for the close 2 count. Rock went to get beer that was next to Lil, no wonder that chick makes mistakes at times she's got the beer supply LoL. Takes little slurps to rub it in Austin's face. Good ending.

-other stuff- The HBK WrestleMania video was a nice touch and Jericho's serious promo afterwards made a great non wrestling segment... Yuck on Test reading PlayBoy and saying he'll be right out in a "minute". That's not good for anyone... Every week on Raw I've enjoyed Rock singing, I haven't look forward to something so un-wrestling since the RNN updates, it soothes the Rock's soul.

One of the best shows of the year, they did a great job in entertaining me for 2 hours and building their Pay Per View. Total winning show. A lot of times when they build to a PPV they ruin the TV show but not this time. Last week show wasn't good but this week was a real homerun. Let's hope they do a show even to this next week.

Sign of the Night: "It's a Trap Stone Cold". I found that so funny,

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#25 Posted on
Anyone else notice the enormous amount of crotch shots in the show? I don't think I have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times people took it in the groin. What's up with that?
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#26 Posted on
Anyone else remeber the same sorta Trish/Jeff relationship around the start of the Invasion, where Jeff saved her from Big Show then got to make out with her, and the next week (The RAW is ECW show) Big Show killed Jeff and Trish came out to comfort him?



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#27 Posted on
Anyone else notice how much paint Trish had on her afterwards?
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44

    Originally posted by El Pescado
    Anyone else notice when Richards pulled Victoria out of the ring to save her from Jeff you could see her nipple through the see-through part of her top?


I KNEW IT! I wasn't sure at the time, because it was a quick shot and could have been something else, but I mentioned at the time that I thought the nip was visible.

Good show last night, with a great crowd in the Lou (as usual). A great crowd makes a show better. BUT...the crowd also helped prove to me that Test is never going to get over enough to justify his spot. The crowd wasn't into him at all. Hell, they gave Scott "IWC's #1 heel" Steiner more love than Andrew. That being said, I hope that this upcoming feud turns Steiner heel, because he just doesn't work as a face.



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#29 Posted on
Hey yall! Been a few days but here I am again! I thought that RAW was really great last night, with the exception of that lumberjack match tease. Bait and switches do NOT rule! The whole show was just fun, and there was a lot more wrestling going on than I thought. Jeff kissing Trish, huh? Just remeber Trish, that Jeff washes off with water. Then there's Steiner, Test and Stacy. Zzzzz... When I saw Test get mad at Stacy, I just laughed and said, "Just another day in the life of Test, sex machine" My peeps were trying to swallow their food and laugh at the same time.

I know I'll get some funny looks from you guys, but I really enjoyed the HHH/Goldust promo. It was kind of awkward to laugh at Goldie's stammering at times, but to be honest, since I once again forgot what was wrong with him, I just lost it. It looks like most of the fears of this being a racial feud are just about eased. Hell, HHH imitating Goldust was funny too! I admit it, HHH still makes me laugh! I'm enjoying the HHH/Booker feud a lot more now.

OF course, I was P.O.ed that there wasn't a lumberjack match after all. But I was just relieved in the fact that less than two weeks before Wrestlemania, RAW continues to improve. The crowd was superb, and that always helps. Hopefully, I'll grace you with more Test jokes later in the week.

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#30 Posted on
Raw was pretty good.

RVD was great. He bumps like nobody else. Great moveset variety. Instant heel heat to anybody that attacks him.

Steiner was good in the way he was used. A Test/Steiner match would be no more than a Heat match at Mania.

Austin vs. Bischoff was good for what it was. I didn’t miss much by not getting the last PPV. The Rock should use his own finishers instead of ripping off the stunner.

I’d like to see Bischoff vs. Flair for commissionership. This would be the rubber match between the two. If they are going to fight backstage, you might as well have them shoot in the ring and make money off it.

I’m sick of Goldust’s “retard gets laughed at” gimmick.

I’m waiting for the “Mack Sells Crack” signs to come out.
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#31 Posted on
Missed opportunity for Hurricane/Rock I think. Picture this as an alternate reality if you will. We pick it up after Teddy Long and Rodney Mack have left ...

Sean O'Haire enters. Yeah, he's on Smackdown but he's not really a WRESTLER yet, is he? So he can switch. lol. He tells Rock that's very non-egotistical of him, letting Rodney Mack take care of his problems. "Boy, how do you think that'll look -- The Rock can't take care of The Hurricane but that schmoe does? Yeah, that'll have the boys respecting you."

"What are you trying to tell The Rock? You think The Rock cares what these losers in the back think?" Walks away ... then comes back. "So you really think they won't respect The Rock? That Peanuthead's boy beating the crap out of the Hamburglar will make people wonder why The Rock couldn't beat him when this nobody does?"

And then of course comes the punchline ... "I'm not telling you something you don't already know."

What we'd get as a result is Rock interfering FOR Hurricane so Rodney Mack wouldn't be able to claim a victory over someone who beat The Rock ... and then the beatdown. It's too bad the IC title isn't around, because I could see Rock helping him all the way to that title just to make it look like he didn't lose to just some schmuck.
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#32 Posted on
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    Originally posted by Venom
    Well, the good Raw streak (for me anyway) ends at 3, as this weeks show was just brutally boring, with nothing advanced and nothing gained by anyone. Maybe this was the standard "do nothing show" before every major PPV.

    In the interest of fairness to HHH, I will say that the Hurricane push is on the verge of death, due to the Rock handling Helms like a jobber after the Rodney Mack match. This only reinforced the ideal that Helms "isn't in his league." I really don't understand the point, Rock has more than enough heat for his fued with Austin (and got to kick his ass too in the same show) and yet they still feel compelled to have him get the heat back from his fluke roll-up win last week (which in itself was only a backdrop for the Austin-Rock feud). While I had no problem with Hurricane winning on a fluke last week because it neither advanced nor detracted from his push, this new sign disturbs me.

    Ying says it's Vince's prejudices against smaller guys combined with the fact that the entire Hurricane concept is based on the fact that he's a hopeless, deluded loser who's nothing more than a living comedy skit.

    Yang however says that if the Rock could torpedo the Booker T match last week in order to advance his war with Triple H, than Rock could have damn sure went to Vince and demanded to make Helms a star in the same breath.







i didnt see this as anyone gettin their heat back.. U can have ur own opinion though



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#33 Posted on

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    br>I also smell a Steiner/Test match at WrestleMania. Not surprisingly, the scent is closely akin to that of crap.







If they put it back to back with the Taker/Jones vs. Big Slug/Albert match, they might be able to sell all the merchandise they want without the fans worrying about missing anything worthwhile in the ring.



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#34 Posted on

    Originally posted by Scott Summets
    Anyone else remeber the same sorta Trish/Jeff relationship around the start of the Invasion, where Jeff saved her from Big Show then got to make out with her, and the next week (The RAW is ECW show) Big Show killed Jeff and Trish came out to comfort him?


This angle was really weird and mangled, but I remember it involved Trish, Lita, Matt, and Jeff and was the start of Matt's heel turn to split up the team in December.

I can't remember which came first, but Trish was indeed hitting on Jeff all the time, but at another point during this nonsense, Trish and Matt hinted at having an affair behind Lita's back, who of course didn't watch the replay cameras. One specific skit, Trish walked out of a dressing room and bumped into Lita, who asked where Matt was. Trish didn't know and left, then Matt walks out of the dressing room and acts all shocked to see Lita there. This lead to Matt costing Lita matches on "accident" (one specifically against Trish), and eventually the fued between Matt and Jeff in late 2001. Trish was dumped from it early on and never brought up again.

This was all erased from history of course because the first Hardy's split failed miserably, so I doubt they're trying to keep some continuity...the fact is, Trish has already made out with all the other midcarders and needs a new one...





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#35 Posted on
Well...if Stacy turns on Test at 'mania, I guess Steiner can have his new FREAK. I wonder why they didn't bring in Midajah with him. I think they are still together. Maybe she will come in next week and we can get a Mixed Tag at 'mania!!! Or not.

But hey RAW was damned good last night. I really liked the show. I loved the Austin/HBK skit. That was some good promo work. I also loved the Y2J promo. A serious heel is good.



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#36 Posted on
RAW kicked eight different types of ass tonight. I think everything was pretty on, with the exception of the Hurricane match - Rodney Mack just doesn't FLOW in the ring, he doesn't look comfortable out there. He didn't even take the Shining Wizard well.

And the HHH/Golddust match was AWESOME. HHH was selling the hell out of Goldie's moveset, especially in the beginning of the match. The "CORNBREAD" and HHH's mock stutter-turning-into-a-Rap wasn't quite subtle enough for me though.



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#37 Posted on
    Originally posted by tasslex


    And the HHH/Golddust match was AWESOME. HHH was selling the hell out of Goldie's moveset, especially in the beginning of the match. The "CORNBREAD" and HHH's mock stutter-turning-into-a-Rap wasn't quite subtle enough for me though.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70
Seems alot of people don't agree with the Trish & Jeff thing....frickin' haters. It's more convincing than her and the MARRIED Rock last year.

It would be interesting if she turned down his valiant effort from this week, and that was the last straw to officially turn him heel at WM 19. Then he can become the evil redneck punk skater goth that will reinvent his career.

But like I said before, frickin' haters.
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#39 Posted on
I must admit, I don't think Trish/Jeff works, but not because of the "Jeff is ghey" bullshit. He's just... sensitive. But Trish seems a little too... conventional for Jeff. Unless they want to license "Skater Boi". Actually that would fit a failed Trish/Jeff flirtation perfectly. She's a total sorority girl, just like she played on MadTV.

Trish plays the "I'm too good for you, but I'll use your attraction to me to get you to protect me" card a bit much for a spunky babyface, I think. That was the exact dynamic between her and Bubbah a few months ago.

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#40 Posted on
Y'know, I didn't get that vibe from Trish/Bubba at all - it seemed like a strictly platonic 'pals' thing, to me.

But maybe yelling "Get the tables" is Bubba's idea of wooing - if so, no wonder it didn't work out.



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