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#61 Posted on

    Originally posted by ges7184
    I think the Canadian crowds are just odd. Just consider this, switch Nash out with Hogan, have the same shitty brawl, and the crowd would have been going ape-shit over it.


Exactly. Some here might like to think they were great because they booed Nash and booed Steiner at No Way Out but they also cheered Hogan at WMX8. That arguably started the whole Hogan nostalgia revival, and probably was the catalyst for the whole bringing back old names trend. Yeah, thanks Canada.



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#62 Posted on

    Originally posted by AWArulz
      Originally posted by El Pescado
      Austin said ALL former IC Title holders from the Raw roster are eligible for the IC Battle Royale, did he not?

      Does that include Chris Benoit? =D



    (Whispers) He's not on the Raw Roster



    (edited by AWArulz on 6.5.03 1039)



Yeah, but Benoit was the Intercontinental Champion when he was on the Raw Roster, wasn't he? I thought Austin said all former Intercontinental Champions from the Raw Roster were eligable



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#63 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34

      Originally posted by ges7184
      I think the Canadian crowds are just odd. Just consider this, switch Nash out with Hogan, have the same shitty brawl, and the crowd would have been going ape-shit over it.


    Exactly. Some here might like to think they were great because they booed Nash and booed Steiner at No Way Out but they also cheered Hogan at WMX8. That arguably started the whole Hogan nostalgia revival, and probably was the catalyst for the whole bringing back old names trend. Yeah, thanks Canada.



I think it was more of a respect thing with Hogan, for all he's done, for all the shows he's sold out. That's why he got the love. Nash just sucks. Sucks, sucks, sucks. Don't blame the Canadians for holding up a mirror to his suckiness. They're like, "Hey, look here! Look at how much you suck! Revel in your own suckiness!"

And he's all, "But I'm tall!"

And they're all, "Your Enrique Iglesias blotch is equally sucky."




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#64 Posted on

    Originally posted by asteroidboy


    I think it was more of a respect thing with Hogan, for all he's done, for all the shows he's sold out. That's why he got the love. Nash just sucks. Sucks, sucks, sucks. Don't blame the Canadians for holding up a mirror to his suckiness. They're like, "Hey, look here! Look at how much you suck! Revel in your own suckiness!"

    And he's all, "But I'm tall!"

    And they're all, "Your Enrique Iglesias blotch is equally sucky."



I can't believe we're questioning Hogan's pop at WM18! Hogan! Mr. Wrestlemania! Damn right we popped for that! As far as Nash is concerned, Asteroidboy, you definitely said it best. That's the only way to describe his heat.



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#65 Posted on
I think it was more of a respect thing with Hogan, for all he's done, for all the shows he's sold out. That's why he got the love. Nash just sucks. Sucks, sucks, sucks. Don't blame the Canadians for holding up a mirror to his suckiness. They're like, "Hey, look here! Look at how much you suck! Revel in your own suckiness!"


Maybe you're right but I find it odd though, especially where Canadian wrestling fans have more of a "smark" reputation than their US counterparts amongst some people here.

Their funniest reaction last night(albeit in an unintentional comedy type of funny, at least for me ) was when Jericho was shown outside after the HHH/Nash brawl, getting a face pop, and Austin comes up to him, getting a face pop, and Austin forces him to have a match next week with Nash, who was getting heel heat. There was a reaction after that announcment but it wasn't a cheer or a boo. It seemed like a "Huh? do we cheer or boo?". Kinda cracked me up.



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#66 Posted on
I was there live last night and the crowd was jacked. Too bad there wasn't a hot main event because it would have been off the charts. Hopefully they give us some good wrestling on Smackdown tonight. Everybody watch for the Towelie sign on Smackdown, haha.
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#67 Posted on
Hogan gets that reaction in eastern Canada because we didn't get Nitro up here until 1998 (unless you had a dish) and even then it got low ratings.

So Hogan really hadn't really been seen in eastern Canada, one of his old biggest drawing areas, for over a decade. So they hadn't been burned out on him and seen him deteriorate. That's just my opinion though.

Nash and Steiner get bad reactions because they deserve bad reactions. Canadian crowds are a lot more workrate oriented then the American crowds. They always have been and probably always will be.
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#68 Posted on

    Originally posted by Likely
    I was there live last night and the crowd was jacked. Too bad there wasn't a hot main event because it would have been off the charts. Hopefully they give us some good wrestling on Smackdown tonight. Everybody watch for the Towelie sign on Smackdown, haha.


Since "US sucks" is a popular chant from time to time amongst canadian wrestling audiences, do you think Hogan will get booed as Mr. America?



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#69 Posted on

    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34

      Originally posted by Likely
      I was there live last night and the crowd was jacked. Too bad there wasn't a hot main event because it would have been off the charts. Hopefully they give us some good wrestling on Smackdown tonight. Everybody watch for the Towelie sign on Smackdown, haha.


    Since "US sucks" is a popular chant from time to time amongst canadian wrestling audiences, do you think Hogan will get booed as Mr. America?



It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. It's funny because during a commercial break last night Vince came out and started sucking up. He said we had every right to boo Hogan tonight since he represented one country only. I can almost guarantee the roof blowing off when "Real American" hits.
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#70 Posted on

    Originally posted by El Pescado

      Originally posted by AWArulz
        Originally posted by El Pescado
        Austin said ALL former IC Title holders from the Raw roster are eligible for the IC Battle Royale, did he not?

        Does that include Chris Benoit? =D



      (Whispers) He's not on the Raw Roster



      (edited by AWArulz on 6.5.03 1039)



    Yeah, but Benoit was the Intercontinental Champion when he was on the Raw Roster, wasn't he? I thought Austin said all former Intercontinental Champions from the Raw Roster were eligable



I think he said all former IC Champs that ae on the RAW roster meaning only former IC Champs that are on the RAW roster right now.



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#71 Posted on
I thought it was kinda strange that Lance Storm waving the Canadian Flag = "Sucking Up" to the announcers, but Undertaker riding around with a US flag on his bike, or a character called MR AMERICA are not.



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#72 Posted on

    Originally posted by shadow_player
    RAW was insulting tonight.

    And by the way, four-five years ago when Sportz Entertainment was the standard, it was done better than today. Austin was better, Vince was better, everybody was more suited toward it. It's no excuse for giving the WWE a free ride just because they're going back to the "attitude" days. The WWE sucks and deserves to go out of business.




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    In fact the only reason I watched was because I could flip back and forth between that and hockey. If it wasn't for the NHL playoffs, I wouldn't have been watching TV at all.



WHAT?!?!? So the fact that something that you wanted to watch, was the only reason for you watching the thing that you had no intention of watching in the first place?!?! And now your complaining about the thing that you really didn't care about at all and wouldn't have watched if the other thing that you wanted to watch wasn't on?!?! My head hurts.



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#73 Posted on
we fucking ruled all last night despite what y'all think. i thought that last ngiht was the best stone cold has been since returnin in feb (on mic)

i wonder though if mr america willl be booed or cheered tonht as during commercials when they had videio highlights, hoganb was booed by alot of ppl



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#74 Posted on

    Originally posted by CRZ

      Originally posted by VanillaSky
      Watching that Lawler match last night, it made me wonder something...according to CRZ, was that one of the greatest matches of all time? I remember he had three guidelines that had to be met when Lawler wrestled. I can't remember what they were, though. Can someone help me out?
    1. Dropkick
    2. Piledriver
    3. Fistdrop

    GREATEST MATCH EVER.

    (I usually substitute "heel cheats to get cheap victory" for "piledriver" due to the no piledrivers rule)

    See also: Lawler vs. Raven, RAW 20.5.2 (slashwrestling.com)
    See also: Lawler vs. Richards, RAW Roulette 7.10.2 (slashwrestling.com)

    I said on tOA that Lawler/Morley almost made me consider pulling a sweeps stunt and recapping the episode...but that urge passed about 27 minutes into the Triple H/Nash brawl. ;-)



Isn't Lawler supposed to lose to the younger, more active wrestler in order for it to qualify as the GREATEST MATCH EVER? That was the case with Raven, I believe
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#75 Posted on
I thought Raw was good enough.

I thought Austin was on probation and couldn't drink alcohol for a year or something. And that was why he wasn't drinking when he returned for No Way Out and Wrestlemania or even last week. Is it possible the beer bash was done because WWE was in Canada? Would that get Austin off the hook or whatever? Maybe thats why he got so excited and started swimming in the stuff.

Christian, as the champ of the peeps, is really entertaining. A good showing against Goldberg next week and he could really make a mark on the show.



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#76 Posted on
Boy its difficult being a sole Nash fan on a hate-mongering IWC. Hmm, momma never told me there would be times like this, LOL.

I had a blast with Raw, my usual dedicated wrestling, not basketball football or hockey, fan self I be. No offense. Anyway, I marked out huge when Austin's music played while Goldberg was still in the ring. I believe this was a first right? Maybe a couple years late but nonetheless, a magical moment. They were adorable out there together chugging beer alongside the thousands of drunken little college punks.







(edited by darkmatcher on 6.5.03 1722)


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#77 Posted on
Throughout the course of history, moments have taken place that define are very existence, shape minds and opinions, and forever leave a beam a light that shines for all to see threw the anals of time. Such moments include: the ending of the Civil War, Neil Armstrong's step on the moon, Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech, and the fall of the Berlin wall.

Sadly, many of us are not fortunate enough to witness such a pinnacle in history, however, the May 5th edition of WWE Raw will forever be known as showcasing the greatest battle of all time.

The duel between Hunter Hearst Helmsely and Kevin Nash was so powerful, so stirring, so emotional, it felt as if they both jumped out of the television screen and showered me with pride, dignity, and wonder. Never in my life have I seen two performers pour their heart and souls into one battle. The echoing grunts by Hunter as he chiseled his fist into the skull of Kevin, the beautiful knees Kevin Nash un-mercifully unleashed on Triple H, which alone, deserved a standing ovation! I wept in awe as both men slowly battled like two slugs fighting over a cracker jack, which led them into the notorious, gang polluted streets of Halifax, Nova Scotia. They are very brave men to do such a stunt and deserve are praise.

The whole 10-minute segment changed the way I, and many others, not only feel, but think towards certain topics that effect are everyday lives. The audience, with authority, shouted "Diesel Sucks!" "Diesel Sucks!", referring the high diesel fuel price in Canada. That's how powerful the mental impact of this battle was. They've had enough of those high diesel prices and thankfully, Triple H and Kevin Nash gave them the power to speak up about it.

Nevermind any ludicrous Kurt Angle/Benoit match, or the ram-shackle workrate of Puroresu, Triple H & Kevin Nash was a masterpiece that set the standard for artistic achievement in all categories of not only sports entertainment, but everything else as well. Encore! Encore!



Flair: "Tonight, it's gonna be Austin, Bradshaw, taking on the NWO!

(Next Monday...)

Flair: I'm not trying to screw you Austin. Tonight, to show that I'm legit, I'll referre your match tonight when you and bradshaw take on the n..w..o!

(Next monday...)

Flair: You thought that was funny Austin? No one screws with the nature boy! tonight, it's gonna be you and bradshaw taking on X-pac and Big Show!

(Next Monday...)

Flair:That's it, you have pissed of the nature boy WHOOO for the very last time Austin!! Tonight I throwing your ass in a special tag match against the NWO. And your partner is gonna be.........Bradshaw!
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#78 Posted on
AuntinBradshaw, I suppose I should address your actual post, but I'm much more interested in addressing your name and sig. I remember when I first saw the sig, I was like, yeah, I remember that, boy that was dumb. I didn't notice that also being the inspiration for your name at the time... did you change your name?

Anyway, the more I think about it the more I wonder, was it really bad enough to warrant sarcastic sigs a year later? It was primarily a midcard angle, the main events around the same time were pretty cool - RVD and Jeff fighting Taker, RVD fighting Eddie, etc. The worst effect was that it was one of the factors that drove Austin away. But now we know that he was deteriorating physically, and probably shouldn't have been working matches on a regular basis anyway. So we lost an unmotivated, sucky Austin who wrestled in stupid midcard matches every week, and got back (a year later) a motivated, fun Austin in a non-wrestling role, resting up for one last match at WM XX (presumably).

Anyway, I'm rambling, but I'm just wondering - yeah that was a dumb angle, but why so much apparent ire a whole year later?

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#79 Posted on

    Originally posted by Austin Bradshaw vs NWO 59
    Throughout the course of history, moments have taken place that define are very existence, shape minds and opinions, and forever leave a beam a light that shines for all to see threw the anals of time. Such moments include: the ending of the Civil War, Neil Armstrong's step on the moon, Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech, and the fall of the Berlin wall.

    Sadly, many of us are not fortunate enough to witness such a pinnacle in history, however, the May 5th edition of WWE Raw will forever be known as showcasing the greatest battle of all time.

    The duel between Hunter Hearst Helmsely and Kevin Nash was so powerful, so stirring, so emotional, it felt as if they both jumped out of the television screen and showered me with pride, dignity, and wonder. Never in my life have I seen two performers pour their heart and souls into one battle. The echoing grunts by Hunter as he chiseled his fist into the skull of Kevin, the beautiful knees Kevin Nash un-mercifully unleashed on Triple H, which alone, deserved a standing ovation! I wept in awe as both men slowly battled like two slugs fighting over a cracker jack, which led them into the notorious, gang polluted streets of Halifax, Nova Scotia. They are very brave men to do such a stunt and deserve are praise.

    The whole 10-minute segment changed the way I, and many others, not only feel, but think towards certain topics that effect are everyday lives. The audience, with authority, shouted "Diesel Sucks!" "Diesel Sucks!", referring the high diesel fuel price in Canada. That's how powerful the mental impact of this battle was. They've had enough of those high diesel prices and thankfully, Triple H and Kevin Nash gave them the power to speak up about it.

    Nevermind any ludicrous Kurt Angle/Benoit match, or the ram-shackle workrate of Puroresu, Triple H & Kevin Nash was a masterpiece that set the standard for artistic achievement in all categories of not only sports entertainment, but everything else as well. Encore! Encore!



Wow. If you want to do sarcasm, THAT's how you do it!

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#80 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by sergeial
    AuntinBradshaw, I suppose I should address your actual post, but I'm much more interested in addressing your name and sig. I remember when I first saw the sig, I was like, yeah, I remember that, boy that was dumb. I didn't notice that also being the inspiration for your name at the time... did you change your name?

    Anyway, the more I think about it the more I wonder, was it really bad enough to warrant sarcastic sigs a year later? It was primarily a midcard angle, the main events around the same time were pretty cool - RVD and Jeff fighting Taker, RVD fighting Eddie, etc. The worst effect was that it was one of the factors that drove Austin away. But now we know that he was deteriorating physically, and probably shouldn't have been working matches on a regular basis anyway. So we lost an unmotivated, sucky Austin who wrestled in stupid midcard matches every week, and got back (a year later) a motivated, fun Austin in a non-wrestling role, resting up for one last match at WM XX (presumably).

    Anyway, I'm rambling, but I'm just wondering - yeah that was a dumb angle, but why so much apparent ire a whole year later?

    sergei



Funny, I was about to comment on how funny that sig was. I always laugh when I read it. But, I don't sense a lot of legit hatred behind it, more a tounge-in-cheek deal.

I was at one of those RAWs, and man, was it shitty.



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