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TONIGHT: What will the fallout from Brock Lesnar’s attack on Triple H be? Will John Laurinaitis still be GM at the end of the night after he inserted himself into a top match at Over the Limit?


- WWE Open.

- A video package aired RE: the last segment on last week’s Raw.

- Inside the arena we went, as Justin Roberts introduced Johnny Ace to the live crowd. Ace came out waving to the fans, but wasn’t as smiley as usual. Ace introduced himself as the “undisputed leader and authority figure for WWE.” He said he wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge his authority or leadership skills, not even John Cena. He said Cena embarrassed him last week, calling him an idiot and a corporate jackass. Ace said he lost his temper last week, and when he loses his temper, he goes into a fit of destruction no one can withstand. Ace said at Over the Limit, he’ll continue where “Brock Cena…(pause for you suck chants)…Brock Lesnar left off.” Ace said he was not reprimanded by the Board of Directors for his actions last week, because they know he’s tough but fair. So he asked that Cena not be here tonight, so he can do therapy on his elbow, leaving no excuses for when Ace beats him at the PPV.

However, Cena will do an interview live via satellite with Michael Cole, where Cena will apologize for making fun of his voice. Ace said he’s putting WWE Superstars on notice about making fun of his voice. He said his voice wasn’t always like this…he was injured in Tokyo by Dr. Death Steve Williams. It didn’t stop him from being the biggest star in Japan. They showed still photos of Ace wrestling in Japan. He had some wild hair back then. Ace said he was the Hulk Hogan of Japan, The Rock and Steve Austin all rolled into one. He talked about declining a lucrative WWE contract back then, but for one night, a match will be bigger than Brock vs. Cena and Rock vs. Cena. Ace asked God for mercy on Cena for Sunday night, but CM Punk walked out to interrupt as Ace was finishing.

Punk said despite Ace being behind the People Power movement, he still has no idea what the fans want. Punk claimed he was out to be on Ace’s side tonight, but wasn’t just going to tell the fans what they want to hear or see. Instead, he’ll tell Ace what they don’t want to hear or see. What they don’t want to see…is Johnny Ace. He said they don’t want to hear about Ace is Japan, along with the revisionist history of how good he was. Punk, with a bushier beard than usual, said this is about Ace putting all his chips behind Lesnar, and Cena beat him. So Ace was embarrassed, which led to his attack on Cena. He claimed Ace picked the bones of Cena after Lesnar did what he did at Extreme Rules. He said Ace went to Japan because no one here in the territories would pay a dime to see Ace’s rotten ass wrestle. Ace told Cena to be careful, but Punk didn’t heed the warning. He said he’d watch Over the Limit to see Cena beat Ace. “Are you finished?” asked Ace. Punk asked the fans if he was finished and they said no. “You’re stupid, you’re ugly, and you have no friends. And you’re also a gigantic toolbox.” Ace said if he wasn’t in training for his match with Cena, he’d pummel Punk to the ground. Ace told Punk that he’d face someone who honed his craft in Japan and returned to be a destructive force: Lord Tesnai. Crowd booed, but I don’t think it was heel heat.

Punk said Ace has hid behind talented big men his entire career, then said he looks forward to the challenge. He also said he looks forward to Cena twisting Ace into a pretzel and making him tap at Over the Limit. Cole was back to defending Ace here, saying this is why Ace snapped last week, wrestlers showing him disrespect. Jerry Lawler said Punk was just telling it like it is.

- Big Show was walking backstage. He gets a rematch against Cody Rhodes next.

[Commercial Break]

- Ace was texting backstage when he walked. Ace was upset at Big Show, telling him to get out of his way and calling him stupid. Show made fun of Ace’s voice as he walked away, but turned around into the cold stare of Eve Torres. Show looked regretful, then walked toward the backstage entranceway.

(1) Cody Rhodes vs. The Big Show – WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Is there a reason this isn’t taking place on Smackdown, the home of both guys? Hard chops by Show, then a beal sending him across the ring. Rhodes got Show down to one knee. Show caught a boot and flipped him backward. Rhodes went to ringside, retrieved his title, and attempted to leave. Show tossed him back into the ring. As Show got back in, Rhodes left again.

Winner, via count-out: Rhodes, at 1:52. Not exactly putting Rhodes over strongly in what one supposes is the blow-off.

Show got on the mic and told him not to take the coward’s way out but to come back to the ring. Rhodes walked to the back and Show said if he finds Cody backstage, it’ll just be worse. Instead, Eve’s music played and she walked to the ring. “Apologize,” she told Show. Show asked for what, and she said to apologize for making fun of Ace’s voice. Show said he was just playing around but she told him to apologize to her, the people and Ace. Show then said “I’m sorry.” She said she didn’t ask him to say “I’m sorry,” but to apologize. She said outside of this business, there’s not really a big need for a seven-foot tall, 440 pound, 40 year-old freak. I’d say there’s not a need for that INSIDE the business, either. Show calmly, yet forcefully, apologized, then left.

- Tonight, CM Punk vs. Lord Tensai.

- Also tonight, Sheamus & Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho & Alberto Del Rio.

[Commercial Break]

(2) Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler
R-Truth accompanied Kingston to the ring. Vickie came out and made some unintelligible introduction for Ziggler, who was joined by Jack Swagger. The stars of USA Network’s new show, “Common Law,” were shown in the front row. AW was shown backstage watching on a monitor with Primo, Epico, and Rosa Mendes. Ziggler got the better of Kofi early on, landing a textbook dropkick for two at :50. As the four people were shown watching the monitor backstage, Mason Ryan walked up and just stared. Kingston made a comeback and clotheslined Ziggler down. Boom Drop by Kofi, who then set up for his finisher. Swagger predictably got on the apron, but Kingston knocked him down. He shrugged off the sleeper and hit the SOS for a near-fall. Vickie and R-Truth distracted the ref with their arguing, allowing Swagger to knock Kingston off the top rope. Zig Zag for the win.

Winner: Ziggler, at 2:39. I’m really beginning to despise Swagger and Ziggler’s matches. The constant interference is just too much, especially for two guys who shouldn’t be slumming like that.

- Cena was shown chatting with a techie from wherever he’s at. Cole interviews him next.

[Commercial Break]

- In the ring, Cole introduced Cena via satellite. Cena first thanked the fans for their well-wishes. Cena updated his status, saying there’s no permanent damage, so he’s medically cleared. But he has to get his elbow drained twice a day. He said a group of doctors strongly recommended he not wrestle for a few months. Cena said nothing would keep him out of the ring over the next few weeks. Cole asked Cena if he was surprised the Board of Directors hadn’t contacted Ace. Cena said they actually contacted him, and he told them not to fire Ace until after Over the Limit. Cole said he’s been watching tapes the last week and has been impressed watching Ace throughout his career. He asked if Cena, deep down inside, is scared of Ace. Cena said he’s scared that Ace is so bad he may hurt himself before Cena gets to get his hands on him. Cena said in 13 days, Ace is not his boss but his opponent, and in 13 days he will kick Ace’s ass. Good enough promo from Cena.

- Kelly Kelly and Layla were walking backstage. They’re out next in tag action.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Natalya & Maxine vs. Kelly Kelly vs. Layla
Beth Phoenix joined the announcers at ringside. But she didn’t want to talk about her ankle. They showed a WWE.com exclusive of a Layla interview backstage after her title win. Beth will face Layla at Over the Limit for the Divas Title. Layla rolled through a hip-toss on Maxine and went for a pin. That was after Kelly tripped Natalya off the apron when Natalya tried to distract. Neck-breaker on Maxine and Layla got the win.

Winner: Layla and Kelly, at 1:05. Layla vs. Beth is slightly intriguing, as far as Divas Title matches go.

- Coming up next, Sheamus & Orton vs. Del Rio & Jericho.

[Commercial Break]

- Cole plugged WWE’s YouTube channel, specifically, Santino Marella’s “Foreign Exchange.” We even got a clip.

(4) Alberto Del Rio & Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton & Sheamus
Orton and ADR began the match. Orton blocked a hip-toss and Orton clotheslined him down. Jericho then tagged in and got some offense in, but not for long. Sheamus came in and went on the attack. Jericho fired back with a chop. It had little effect, as Sheamus pounded the chest of Jericho with his trademark forearm shots. Sheamus missed a short-arm DDT, instead taking out Del Rio in a nice bit of timing. That allowed Jericho to take over and send Sheamus shoulder-first into the ring post. Del Rio then kicked at the already injured shoulder of Sheamus. Sheamus attempted to regroup outside the ring as they went to break at 3:30 of the match.

[Commercial Break]

Back to the match at 6:44. Jericho was wearing Sheamus down and got a few “ask him!” shouts in. Sheamus backed Jericho into the corner and gave him a few back-elbows. Clothesline and both men were down at 7:36. Orton and Del Rio both tagged in. Vintage Orton DDT. Orton set up for the RKO, and bodyslammed Jericho. Ricardo Rodriguez got on the apron to distract, leading to an enziguiri by ADR. It got him a near-fall. Double-team on Orton behind the ref’s back. Orton fought out of the corner, dropkicking Jericho down. “You don’t see Orton throwing many of them,” said Cole. Back suplex by Jericho on Orton. “Best in the world!” he shouted. Orton fought out of a rear chinlock, but this time it was Jericho with an enziguiri to stop Orton’s momentum. Cross arm-breaker by Del Rio was countered into a back-breaker from Orton. This time Sheamus got the hot tag, just before the 12:00 mark. Sheamus’ shoulder gave out and Jericho tried the Walls of Jericho. Sheamus broke out and hit the Irish Curse back-breaker for two. Del Rio kicked the injured shoulder to break it up and Orton RKO’d Del Rio. Sheamus went to Brogue Kick Jericho, but Jericho ducked and Sheamus hit Orton. Sheamus then turned around into a Codebreaker.

Winners: Jericho and Del Rio, at 13:03. Interesting finish to what seemed to be just another mid-show tag match to build to a PPV title match.

Sheamus attempted to help Orton to his feet…so Orton RKO’d him. Sheamus is already struggling to get face heat, and forcing fans to choose between him and Orton isn’t going to help.

- Tonight, we’ll get an update on the condition of WWE COO Triple H, as well as an update on the status of Brock Lesnar.

- And in the main event, CM Punk vs. Lord Tensai.

[Commercial Break]

- Cole plugged the latest edition of WWE Magazine.

- Ace and Eve were backstage. Ace said Show’s apology earlier was insincere. Eve said he was right and went to talk to Big Show. Jericho walked in and asked Ace if he saw what just happened. He said he deserves a title shot, but Del Rio walked in to defend himself. Orton came in to make a case, but he ended up attacking Jericho. Sheamus came in to fight too and the two men chased off the heels. Sheamus asked what the RKO was for and Orton said Sheamus was a clumsy ass in the ring (third “ass” on the show) and the two men argued until refs restrained Orton. Sheamus was left with Ace, who told Sheamus the PPV match is now a Fatal Four-Way.

(5) “Funkasaurus” Brodus Clay vs. The Miz
Clay did an inset interview reminding fans to call their mommas on Mother’s Day Sunday. Miz came out with a mic and complained about having a match with Clay. Miz said if he wanted to see King Hippo dance, he’d play Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out. He told Clay to call his momma after the match and tell her what it was like to be in the ring with the Miz. Oh, and that Miz is awesome.

Miz pounded away to start, but was put down by a Clay clothesline. The Funkadactyls were laughing at Miz outside the ring and he began to approach them. But Clay came out to make the save. Miz caught him coming into the ring and went to work. Running boot to Clay for a one-count at :55. Miz with a corner attack, then he came off the top with a double axe-handle for one. Clay worked out of a rest-hold but Miz DDT’d him. Miz worked Clay back down again as the Funkadactyls tried to waken the crowd. Clay came back and headbutted a charging Miz. He went for a charge, but ran into a Miz boot. Miz to the middle rope, but came down right in the arms of Clay. Overhead throw, then a splash finished it.

Winner: Clay, at 4:11. That was not so good.

- A video aired on WWE’s anti-bullying campaign.

- Next, an update on Triple H and Brock Lesnar’s status. CM Punk Tweeted a pic of Paul Heyman backstage, saying he’s out next. Interesting.

[Commercial Break]

- The exterior of the arena in Greensboro was shown.

- They showed a video package of Lesnar’s attack on Triple H last week.

- The announcers were shown on-camera where Cole said Triple H not only broke his arm, but did damage to the ligaments. Lawler said he’s going to be having surgery and will go through rehab soon. They showed Hunter performing COO duties during the week with the mechanical arm helping him out. Lawler did mention Hunter accompanying Floyd “Money” Mayweather to the ring on Sunday.

They said Hunter will be on the show next week and while they invited Lesnar this week, he instead sent his legal representation. Lesnar’s music played but he didn’t come out. Long pause…and out walked Paul Heyman. More like power-walked. Cole didn’t seem thrilled. Heyman introduced himself and said he’s there as the representative for Brock Lesnar. He called Lesnar “the single most destructive athlete in the history of WWE.” He said Lesnar has been maligned and mistreated, as well as under-appreciated by the WWE audience since day one. Heyman said today’s WWE is so image-conscious compared to when he was around 10 years ago. But it was Johnny Ace who signed Lesnar to a legitimate contract. Admittedly, Lesnar made a few reasonable verbal demands, which were agreed to on live TV, which means everybody watching was a party to that agreement. He said Lesnar feels betrayed by the WWE Universe and Lesnar shouldn’t have to feel that way. He talked about Lesnar’s accolades and said Lesnar is an honest man. He said Lesnar asked him to come read a statement, the official statement of Lesnar.

The statement complained about his treatment but didn’t apologize for what he did to Cena or Triple H. He said Hunter lasted almost an hour in a cell with Taker, but couldn’t last a minute in the ring with him. He said Hunter broke his agreement so he broke his arm. He doesn’t care about the fans or the corporate suits in WWE because he, Brock Lesnar, is never coming back. Because he, Brock Lesnar, quits. Then Heyman flipped the mic and left the ring. Interesting development there. Cole said Lesnar would’ve been fired had he not quit anyway.

- They showed a clip of Punk’s verbal beat-down on Ace earlier, then showed Punk walking backstage. He faces Tensai…in a 2-on-1 handicap match? That according to Lawler, anyway.

[Commercial Break]

- Big Show talked to the stars of “Common Law” backstage. They complained about Show apologizing to Eve, saying he shouldn’t apologize to anyone. They said they’re detectives, they know how to figure things out. They both complained about Johnny Ace being in power. They imitated Ace and Show laughed, but of course, Eve heard it. Show looked upset at getting caught again.

- CM Punk came out. Ace interrupted his music when Punk got to the ring and said it’s now a handicap match: Tensai and Daniel Bryan against Punk. Spoilers, King!

[Commercial Break]

(6) CM Punk vs. Lord Tensai & Daniel Bryan – 2-on-1 Handicap Match
Match began upon return from break. Lawler covered saying he received a note before the break about it being a handicap match. Tensai took Punk down and Bryan tagged in, kicking Punk in the chest a few times. Roll-up by Punk for two. Tag in to Tensai, who hit an underhook suplex, then worked the neck and spine. Punk was thrown out of the ring, but Punk came back on the outside with chops and forearms. Tensai ended up picking Punk up and slamming him back-first into the ring post. Back in the ring, back splash by Tensai, then a tag to Bryan. He went to the top and missed a diving splash. Punk got up first and took it to Bryan. Heel kick then a spinning neck-breaker. Running knee in the corner, then a bulldog. Go To Sleep was coming, but Bryan wiggled out and tagged Tensai. Punk didn’t realize it, and Punk was blasted with a clothesline. Punk tried to lift Tensai for the GTS, but couldn’t. Kick to the head by Punk after a missed charge. Bryan crotched Punk, who went to the top rope. Tensai pulled Punk down and tree slammed him, but Punk barely went off his feet. Tensai did his dance and blew the green mist into the claw. He locked it on Punk and shouted. Back heel trip and a pin for the win.

Winners: Bryan and Tensai, at 6:56.

Bryan was quite pleased after the match. Tensai just stared at his hand. They replayed Bryan tripping up Punk and Tensai hitting his finish. Bryan put the boots to Punk after the match and hooked him in the Yes Lock. Bryan celebrated, then went for the move again before being restrained by Charles Robinson. Cole said this is why you don’t challenge Ace’s authority.


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Amazing how my like/dislike of the show changed once Johnny and Eve were not on getting any screen time. The first two segments had me on the verge of turning Raw off all together. I felt it got better soon after, but, outside of the surprise appearance from Paulie, my interest never fully recovered. Pretty forgettable show, as I don't remember much of it, just 10 minutes after it's gone off the air.



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This crowd was dead from the very beginning and I wonder if hearing that Cena wouldn't be on the show deflated them from the start?

So yeah, enough people complained about Brock's lack of promo skills, so they went ahead and got Paul Heyman back. They certainly listened to us on that front. Applause where applause is due.

Speaking of listening to us, someone must have come to their senses on Sheamus/Del Rio. The funniest thing about them turning that match into a Fatal 4-Way is...they supposedly HAVE a Fatal 4-Way PPV coming up in a month.

Does Eve have magic teleportation powers now? Is she now harnessing the Power of Bees? (How's THAT for an old The W reference? Eh? EH?)

That's all I got. I'd complain about Big Johnny and Eve again, but I'm afraid that would just mean them getting EVEN MORE segments. When I'm pining for the sparkling personality of David Otunga, there's a huge problem.

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    Originally posted by It's False


    Speaking of listening to us, someone must have come to their senses on Sheamus/Del Rio. The funniest thing about them turning that match into a Fatal 4-Way is...they supposedly HAVE a Fatal 4-Way PPV coming up in a month.



I think they scrapped that show...not on WWE.com's listed PPV events.



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I thought it was one of Eve's best outings.

Funkasaurus is like a 7 year old's create a wrestler, congrats on getting past the Miz and leveling up. Poor Miz.

First Cole and then Lawler with the spoiler ... who knew Lawler even got a preshow briefing? I figured the guy just showed up and put a headset on.

Paul Heyman returns! Paul Heyman delivers a great promo on why the recently returning Brock Lesnar is pissed off at the world ... and you "What" him.

Tensai is a fine Umaga, but where does this leave the great Mark Henry?




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Funkasaurus winning a match makes the Funkettes happy. Which causes Naomi to bounce up and down, that makes me happy. Clay needs to win forever just for that simple fact, all the while switching to Naomi's boobs while tap my fingers like Mr. Burns "Excellent".

Wasn't it almost a year ago where Miz was constantly teasing his former tag partner John Morrison for a consistent jobbing streak before he went out of the door? Things are fishy.

Me thinks Orton and Sheamus should of switched roles starting at this year's Royal Rumble. Lobster Head's crowd reaction is tepid at best, next to Bryan and Orton.

What was that video involving Stone Cold? I only heard the tail end of it.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
Word from the Observer was that this show underwent three re-writes today. Ordinarily I react to the show itself rather than any behind-the-scenes intrigue, but this report makes me wonder about making that WHC match a four-way. I mean, it was just last week that we got the "Sheamus is THE MAN, and that's the way it's going to be" blowoff with DBryan - and now this? If nothing else, Jericho scores another PPV payday. Pin him, pay him.

No repercussions for Ace because the "Board of Directors" contacted Cena first was about a 7 of 10 on the silly wrestling logic scale, but I guess they at least tried. Of course following the logic they went with, there's no reason for Ace not to get relieved of his duties on the Raw after Over the Limit (win, lose or draw).

The two matches they let go to length, we got good work, even with Tensai in the mix. Tensai's 'problem' might be the Tai-Chi movements, he just doesn't look like a wrecking machine when he's gliding his big ass around the ring. (I still don't see how that headclaw-slam doesn't result in a bad bump. If Albert has the light touch of Kane, more power to him.)

For angles, aside from the WHC developments, they punted on Ace/Cena and Brock/HHH this week. (Storylines developing... ?) Nice to see Heyman again, even if it just turns out to be a cameo. And even if word 'slips out' that Brock is done, I'm not believing it. At least until I hear about the Extreme Rules buyrate.

They have managed to get Bryan's reaction right for a heel, but it remains to be seen if they can keep that going against lesser faces than Punk. (Same with Cena's face heat when he moves on after Johnny Ace.)



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I am all for the idea of Paul Heyman being on Raw on a regular basis to 'speak on Lesnar's behalf' to cover for Brock's absences on the show. Heyman is one of the all-time great talkers in wrestling history and it's great to see him on screen again.



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Heyman, still great, who would've guessed, everybody. No-brainer to use him. He can fill in for Lesnar through the duration of the contract. A great development.

Another big positive changing the Sheamus match to a fourway. I expected them to go with Jericho/Orton next anyway since both guys had nothing to do. Wonder if they'll bring up Orton punting him right out of 2011 -- it would fit in with Randy's recent "unusually long memory" feuds with Kane, Cody, and Punk.

Tensai is not in a PPV match and is in fact so unover that they have to advertise Laurinaitis on PPV instead of him. Bryan lost twice to Sheamus last week and beat Lawler to get a title shot. Bryan probably should've pinned Punk tonight.

Paul Heyman and Maxine have legitimized Monday Night Raw. WWE ran out of heels by firing the Bellas and taking Eve (who is doing a really good job) out of the ring so now Natalya has to keep doing "reluctant heel partner" tag matches.
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Baffled by the Tensai gimmick if this was what they had planned for him. Just bring him back as A-Train and let him have the mistclaw as a reference to his time away. The goofy tattoos/entrance gear are killing him.
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If Paul Heyman being back leads to a reunited Dangerous Alliance type stable with Brock at the helm, I'm all for it.

With Paul as the voice, Brock as the muscle, and one or two others running rough-shod through the WWE, they could conceivably have a legit Four Horseman/Dangerous Alliance type of group.

It's a shame about Tensai. I like the idea and the look, I wish he was more over. I think if he had a much more active manager - in the mold of a Mr. Fuji type - people might be more receptive. He needs to stay silent but threatening while having someone strong speak for him (someone like James Mitchell - oh god, why is he not employed by a major wrestling organization?).
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I was barely conscious during the second hour that I thought I dreamed Heyman was there. I guess not. Good for them to go that route if Lesnar only has so many dates. Minus Punk's promo and the tag match, it was just a there show. I still have no idea what their game plan is for Cena/Laurantis. Big Johnny is a joke to everyone that if he pins Cena, I am not sure where that takes Cena. Of course, if they have Johnny and not Brock go over Cena then something is terribly wrong with this company. So, if Cena wins, he not Punk vanquishes the evil authority figure that has been needling Punk all year. That makes zero sense at all.

Lord Albert is such a waste that when Laurantis said Punk would face him as punishment, my wife laughed. No one is buying this gimmick. I am also pretty well sick to death of his fellow no jobbing big men in Clay and Ryback. Feeding good talent to the kiddie comedy act is just a terrible idea. You could make the same argument with Santino, but he has come very far with his gimmick that its ok. Clay has been here for a cup a coffee and he is beating the guy who was world champ at the main event of Mania. No, just no.



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    Originally posted by It's False

    That's all I got. I'd complain about Big Johnny and Eve again, but I'm afraid that would just mean them getting EVEN MORE segments. When I'm pining for the sparkling personality of David Otunga, there's a huge problem.

    (edited by It's False on 7.5.12 2017)


Just for giggles, if they give more face time to the guys you LIKE based on fan reaction (see: CM Punk, Daniel Bryan), is that bad too?

Bear in mind this thread is fan reaction.

If cheers are cheers are cheers and reaction is reaction is reaction, then it is what it is. So what if DBry does the job, we hate heels being shoved down our throats with wins (see: HHH).

And no one ballyhooed the lack of our Tag Team Champions on the show.



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I think Johnny pins Cena after Cena sees off Otunga/Tensia interference but falls prey to a surprise vicious Brock assault. This all somehow ties in with HHH's appearance next week, which I'm guessing will be him angrily rejecting Brock's resignation and forcing him to work his contractually obligated dates.
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I (genuinely) enjoyed Heyman hearing the "WHAT?" chant and adjusting, taking out the pauses built into the letter to power through and kill off the chants and then being slightly out of breath at the end because of it. There's still no one in the world who can make the name "Brock Lesnar" sound as intimidating as Heyman.

It was nice to see Punk get to remind people that the Ace feud was technically his before Cena wandered into it. A little tired of everyone doing the Ace's Voice thing now, since it waters down it being funny in the first place, but any time Ace gets to build up his legendary Japanese career, that's still fun.
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Wonder if they'll bring up Orton punting him right out of 2011 -- it would fit in with Randy's recent "unusually long memory" feuds with Kane, Cody, and Punk.
I thought it was weird to even put Jericho and Orton in the same place at all without having either of them note that Punk put him out for nearly a year. Ideallly, they'll have Orton cost Jericho a victory in the Four Way (without Orton himself winning) to set up an angry Jericho attacking Randy. Randy will then say "Jericho, I know why you're angry..." and bring up the punt, only to reveal that, no, Jericho was just mad that Randy cost him the belt and did not, in fact, remember the punt at all because it did damage to his memory, but Orton bringing it up has it all come flooding back, including Jericho suddenly putting the Anonymous GM pieces together.

(It turns out it the Anonymous GM was Paul Heyman, and that's why Heyman put such relish on "AND I QUOTE!" this week.)
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I think Johnny pins Cena after Cena sees off Otunga/Tensia interference but falls prey to a surprise vicious Brock assault. This all somehow ties in with HHH's appearance next week, which I'm guessing will be him angrily rejecting Brock's resignation and forcing him to work his contractually obligated dates.
This seems pretty spot on, assuming there are no "Brock only has two PPVs" issues preventing it. Cena getting to hold off Ace/Tensai/Sakamoto sounds about right for Cena Protection purposes, and they can't have Cena lose - even in a six arms vs. one arm scenario - after beating Brock. I would like to see them hold off Otunga's return (if he's even able to come back yet, not sure where the trial is) until it's time for Ace to deal with the Board so Otunga can make note that Ace only really lost it once Otunga was away.

Also, HHH angrily forcing Brock to honor his deal is logical and plays right into HHH's character, but there's a part of me that kind of wants them to have someone remotely control HHH's robot helper arm into signing a better deal for Brock. Possibly using leftover GTV technology.

Re: Tensai, there's so many places they went wrong. The biggest was giving him a manager who doesn't talk, and then having Tensai himself only talk in weird, terrible Japanese promos where it looks like he's reading it off a sheet of paper. There's a much simpler, cleaner version of this character that they finally noticed at last night where Ace specifically brings him back because he went to Japan like Ace did, but it's probably too late for that now, which makes me sad that we never did get to see Otunga revealing his knowledge of Japanese law, wearing a kimono (with bowtie) and having ritually prepared tea poured into his thermos. I almost think the best use of Tensai now would be for when Ace loses all control of Brock, to have Ace send Tensai after him and Albert to be all "Uh, respectfully, I decline?" and then get crushed by Brock.

That or just get him to to Smackdown where they can control his reaction and let him have more regular interactions with Sheamus, Show, Cody or Henry.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
Ohgodohgod the things they could tie together with Heyman being the anonymous GM. Angry that Johnny took his place, he constructs a deal with his BFF Lesnar to make Ace seem weak and out of control to he can sneak back in and take the job. Oh it works so, so well, and Heyman's one of the few people out there who doesn't contradict things that the GM did during his/her time in charge.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.71
It would be nice in a "wrap up the loose ends" type of way, but the reveal that he was the anonymous GM certainly wouldn't have any steam behind it at this point (save for tying him into the story, as Amos did). I'm sure most fans' reactions would be, "oh yeah...that."

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.52
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Re: Tensai, there's so many places they went wrong.
Tensai is pretty much a lost cause for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that he's doing Brock Lesnar's storyline at the exact same time. Big power wrestler, left WWE years ago to dominate somewhere else, and now he's back and gonna whoop on people. Except Brock was a bigger star back then, Brock was more visible during his time away from WWE, and Brock comes across as a completely legitimate bad-ass. Tensai was a mid-level guy as A-Train (and worse off before that), he wrestled in Japan which 99% of the WWE audience neither knows nor cares about, and his character looks as phony as anything WWE has done since Mordecai. For a guy that size, Tensai looks completely unintimidating. He's got a big ol' squishy baby face. Even as A-Train, he looked like a large office worker playing dress-up. But now he's got a red pleather diaper and tattoos that run off when he sweats.
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    There's a much simpler, cleaner version of this character that they finally noticed at last night where Ace specifically brings him back because he went to Japan like Ace did, but it's probably too late for that now
Exactly. They could have done the Tensai story better by bringing him back as Matt Bloom and actually showing footage of him whooping people in Japan. Instead, the whole thing comes across as completely phony even though there's some degree of truth to it. I imagine most casual fans go "why is this fat whitey pretending to be Japanese, that's stupid."

It doesn't help that every match he's had since he's been back has been terrible.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by KJames
    But now he's got a red pleather diaper and tattoos that run off when he sweats.

Exactamundo. It felt like the cameras were purposefully kept away from his face after a minute into the match when his tattoos started running. Of course they could explain that Lord Penis is so badass that his sweat melts tattoos.

And, he looks like Arnie Grape trying to do Tai Chi.

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    I (genuinely) enjoyed Heyman hearing the "WHAT?" chant and adjusting, taking out the pauses built into the letter to power through and kill off the chants and then being slightly out of breath at the end because of it.


Heyman is masterful. There isn't anything more to say about it. When he changed cadence, I marked out harder than when he first appeared.

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
Wait, everyone is out on Tensai? I was just warming up to this whole thing. Tensai got off to a crumby start and the gimmick needs tweaking, but it will get there.

Big men and their gimmicks need time on the vine to fully ripen. Don't give up yet.
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