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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
Bottom line last night: The Rock was fantastic on tape, John Cena was fantastic live.

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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.64
Nous ne nous pouvons pas sortir.
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    AJ is pretty much all lean torso and apple bottom ass with really short legs.
Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Looks like Steph is succeeding in her Twilight goal, a lot of energy and discussion is going into a match that will be (unless Rock is signed for Summerslam) another rendition of the tale as old as time, Cena beating the odds.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.14
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Cena doesn't lose anything in losing if the match is extremely memorable. Well except for the fact that he's already said he has to win this match or else he'll die, etc. I dunno, everyone in Toronto wanted Hogan to win too and he didn't. But because of how the crowd reacted, he basically did. So maybe Rock is confident that between charisma and match layout, he too can lose the match while still winning the night and not pissing off the crowd.

      Originally posted by lotjx
      And with Cena's less than stellar track record at Mania


    JBL bad
    HHH great
    Michaels great
    HHH/Orton good
    Edge/Show good
    Batista good
    Miz bad

    (edited by JustinShapiro on 6.3.12 1404)


I am sure that is what they are going to go for. Have Rock give a great match then have Cena win clean and go for the handshake. However, that can no longer work. Cena has pulled the vale back so much that the handshake is now meaningless. So, we are left with the option of Rock going over Cena to either turn heel or just forget it happened til Summerslam or have Cena win, run around the ring have Rock give the head down walk aisle with hopefully the standing ovation if the crowd doesn't shit all over the ending.

JBL; Terrible
HHH: Rehash of WMXX. Booed out of the arena.
HBK: Great til the end with SuperCena to the point Shawn won't shake his hand.
HHH/Orton: Good
Edge/Show: Ok
Batista: Disappointing, but a lot of that had with the time. The Summer Slam match was better.
Miz: God Awful.

The problem with Cena, for the eight Wrestlemanias he has not had a memorable match. He has never stolen the show and if he has a moment its the booing he got against HHH with the heavy is the crown look or Shawn throwing a hissy fit. He had a nice entrance with the band and the clone army of Cenas, but thats about it. Its not like Rock with Hogan where he had that those amazing matches with Austin that cemented him as someone who can carry his end in a big time match. Cena has been carried most of the time or in matches where he doesn't have to do a lot. I have very little faith in a Cena being able to do enough if he wins to make the crowd cheer Rock at the end.



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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
        Originally posted by lotjx
        Cena's time is pretty much over.


      Yes, and Rock's is just beginning.


    For being the face of the company, yes. Cena's time is over. Punk is that guy now.
I'm guessing you're trolling, but yeah Cena's the guy and should be the guy. Cena will be the top guy as long as he out draws everyone in the promotion. I would say he probably has five more years at the top of the card at least. He still can turn eventually turn heel, and be the top heel after being a top face for nearly ten years. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but he'll continue to be the face of the WWE because nobody draws the ratings, reactions or moves the merch he does.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
Bret Hart is lucky he had his run when he did, because he and Cena have a lot in common character wise. Both are company men, both are do goody characters, and both are fine in the ring and probably more over with women and kids. Bret just happened to be from an era where you just didn't boo the good guy, until they made you boo the good guy. If the two switch eras Bret is getting booed out of buildings the same way Cena is.

Cena much like Bret is the same exact guy he was when he first got popular right down to the look. There are no layers to Cena. Cena is really just a dork, so it's tough to get that 50/50 reaction on his own. People will boo Rock, they just have to have the right guy to cheer. Punk could have split the audience maybe even swayed it in his favor. Taker probably could have given you a true 50/50 reaction. Orton can't even talk and he could probably even split the crowd on his own. Cena is the top guy, so I see why he gets the spot, but it kind of sucks that they actually have to tone the Rock down to get the reaction they want.

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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
It's too bad that not many people are watching what an incredible acting job The Rock is doing (3.2)



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by lotjx




    JBL; Terrible
    HHH: Rehash of WMXX. Booed out of the arena.
    HBK: Great til the end with SuperCena to the point Shawn won't shake his hand.
    HHH/Orton: Good
    Edge/Show: Ok
    Batista: Disappointing, but a lot of that had with the time. The Summer Slam match was better.
    Miz: God Awful.

    The problem with Cena, for the eight Wrestlemanias he has not had a memorable match. He has never stolen the show and if he has a moment its the booing he got against HHH with the heavy is the crown look or Shawn throwing a hissy fit. He had a nice entrance with the band and the clone army of Cenas, but thats about it. Its not like Rock with Hogan where he had that those amazing matches with Austin that cemented him as someone who can carry his end in a big time match. Cena has been carried most of the time or in matches where he doesn't have to do a lot.


Is there any truth to the idea that Shawn was shooting when refusing to shake Cena's Hand, or is this speculation? I've never heard that before.

Making both members of DX tap out at back to back wrestlemanias is for sure a memorable set of moments in my book. The triple threat matches were really lame though.

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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.48
    Originally posted by Shadowhendrix
      Originally posted by lotjx
      The problem with Cena, for the eight Wrestlemanias he has not had a memorable match. He has never stolen the show and if he has a moment its the booing he got against HHH with the heavy is the crown look or Shawn throwing a hissy fit.
    Is there any truth to the idea that Shawn was shooting when refusing to shake Cena's Hand, or is this speculation? I've never heard that before.
Consider the source.
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by lotjx
    The problem with Cena, for the eight Wrestlemanias he has not had a memorable match.


I dunno dawg, I agree with one Shadowhendrix; the atmosphere in Chicago and his surprise win was very memorable. The year vs. Shawn had an excellent buildup and a strong match. Thing is, look at his Wrestlemania match times and match placements. It's only been a couple times where his match was actually put in a position to carry the show.

For 21, 25, and 26, he had a much longer and better match with JBL, Edge, and Batista when they were in the PPV main event the next month. Which tells me that if they had the extra time and no DQ freedom at Mania that were allotted to other matches instead, there's no reason to think they wouldn't have had a great match.
Cena vs. JBL, I Quit
Cena vs. Edge, Last Man Standing
Cena vs. Batista, Last Man Standing
wouldn't be out of place on any Best of Wrestlemania DVD if they'd happened a month earlier.

So it looks to me like two of the three times he was in the main event in a show-carrying position, he delivered. The third time, last year, they stunk, but that match bombed in both execution and booking (the show ran long and they had to cut time, flat double countout, unsatisfying use of Rock) so it probably would've been a letdown even if they were at their best. This year, Rock vs. Cena is not a match they're going to accidentally run out of time for, and Rock is a hell of a lot better than Miz.

    Originally posted by Shadowhendrix
    Is there any truth to the idea that Shawn was shooting when refusing to shake Cena's Hand, or is this speculation? I've never heard that before.


Yeah, that was all story; the angle was that Shawn still thought he was better. Which they followed up on with him having Cena beat in a fourway at Backlash but accidentally causing him to win when he superkicked him and he fell into the winning pin. Then he beat him in the 60 minute match on Raw. But they never got to the title rematch they were building for because Shawn blew out his knee in May.

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    Since they're reading tweets right on air I think Shapiro should tweet this next week in hopes of 15 mins of fame:

      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Guys, how great does Bending The Rules look



I would give anything, but I would give more to have this happen with an observation for NXT on NXT instead.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 6.3.12 2042)
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73

I think people are over-thinking this Rock/Cena stuff. Cena was in his de facto hometown, so the fact he got a good reaction is really far less remarkable than some folks here are making it seem. Rock was entertaining as usual but there is too much promo and not enough angle going on here. I liked Rock's promos tonight but really, I'm not sure he needed to be in Boston at all. But one thing I'm sure of is this is all work. I can't believe anyone thinks Cena is legit owning Rock. I suppose it's a testament to both guys than they can convince people of that, but I still don't see how "People are sick of you" is trumped by "You write on your hands". If he really showed Rock up last week (and the writing on the hand was so blatant and unprecedented you'd be insane to believe it wasn't set-up ahead of time), I'm sure there would be no repeat this week. Cena is a pro, he's only going to show up Rock if Rock and Vince allow it to happen. What this is all structured to do is to give Cena the opportunity to really get over as the guy. Not "the guy by default because he sells the most t-shirts", but the guy because, by God, he fucking deserves it. Bruno, Hogan, Bret, Shawn, Austin, Rock...None of them could really be denied, and to varying degrees all were more accepted than Cena by whatever audience existed in their respective eras, whether larger or smaller audiences than today. This is about his redemption.





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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
This weird "oh Cena is only getting over because Rock is LETTING him" this is just so wrongheaded. I mean, Rock "let" Jericho get over in the "I am not a joke, you son of a bitch" promo back in 2002 by not laughing in his face or cutting him off like he could. HHH "let" Cactus Jack's return in 2000 get over by selling it as if Bruiser Brody had risen from the dead rather than smirking at him. When wrestlers decide not to "let the other guy get over" you get Kevin Nash bombing into swimming pools and Scott Hall waggling his fingers at his opponents.
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