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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
We will never know what shape the WWE would be in if they let Orton, Edge or anyone else be the star Cena is. I would guess if it was Edge then we wouldn't talking about a shitty workrate with almost every PPV and someone who can actually cut a promo without mugging for the cameras. I think we would be better off if it was Edge.

Austin and Rock have always pushed for other guys. They know they need foils, hell I think it was Austin and Foley pushing for Rock. Austin wanted to face Eddie before he quit. Rock and Foley ate a lot of pins for HHH. So, the idea that Rock or Austin never did that is ludicrous. Cena may push for Punk, but his promo was done to make Punk look like shit.

And maybe if we did have more people like Mick who was willing to take a backseat, we might not have a business that is slowly dying on the vine 9 months out of the year borderline 10 months with the ratings of the last few weeks. Maybe if Cena didn't always beat the odds or find a way to wiggle out of shit then maybe he wouldn't be booed every night. As for the $101 million dollars that is a nice number, but we have no idea how they came up with that number. Was it just the t-shirt or was it the main events like Mania where Rock brought in the buyrates for that one. What about the other main events where R-Truth and Punk were main eventers, do they get a cut of that number or not? Its a rather bizarre number, I think was created for the IWC and the dirt sheets to say "Hey, we can't turn him heel, it would be bad for business. You know the business where we are losing buyrates and rating numbers, because we keep pushing him down everyone's throats. That business."

I like Cena, I really do, but he needed to man up years ago and say "Listen, let me take some time off, get re-energized. Push Punk, Kofi, Miz and some of the others and we will go from there." He didn't and the I have been here every week line is getting old. He cut a good promo, but its ass backwards logic. Its Yeah, I come to work everyday, but I am sorta lousy at it. He is a regular on the Office at this point. His job is to get the fans to cheer him as the number one face and make the show believable. He fails at that.

(edited by lotjx on 21.2.12 0844)


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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I would guess if it was Edge then we wouldn't talking about a shitty workrate with almost every PPV and someone who can actually cut a promo without mugging for the cameras.
Is there a second Edge that I'm not aware of? You're talking about The Office, Edge was practically Jim Halpert on the mike.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.58
I'm not going to fault Cena for not giving up his spot on the top. I really don't think there's a list of more than a couple guys who have (or even would have) done that.

I'm also not going to fault him for not sticking up for certain guys like Rock and Austin did because Cena has gotten behind some lower card guys. Ryder recently, but Evan Bourne comes to mind as another guy that he stuck up for backstage.

There's also no point in arguing about how much money he brings in as if 'Cena on top' is an on-going experiment. He's the top guy, and he has been for almost a decade now. He's this generation's Hulk Hogan. Nobody brings in the merchandise year after year like he does. Ratings pop up when he's on tv, and drop when other wrestlers are on. Maybe that's because the WWE has been shoving it down our throats for years that Cena is the only person on RAW that matters, but at the end of the day, he is the guy that brings viewers.

Johnny O's Cena-rant is dead on. Cena should know that he's been the top guy of a company of boring, mostly uninspiring wrestlers. Whenever an Edge or a Shawn Michaels retires, we get more start and stop pushes for mid card guys like Swagger or Barrett. The last few years have sucked, income is dropping across the board for this company, and here's Cena every week reminding us that he's been their flag-bearer the whole time.

I have a lot of respect for Cena. The guy works harder than just about any wrestler on the roster. Not during his matches maybe, but all the charity work he does. He's booked every night, and still finds time for charity as well as promotional work. I can certainly understand him being legit upset that Rock can come back and take over his spot with him having nothing to say about it. But there are glaring things that Cena has done wrong to bring the fans ire down on himself. He's never been known as a great worker in his matches. The past couple years though he's gotten visibly slower and sloppier. Being a great worker has never been a necessity for a top guy in this company (and doesn't really have to be as long as they're entertaining) but if you're serious about trying to win back the fans you lost, that would be the first place to start. Cena's also developed a habit of making sure the audience knows that what they're watching is bullshit. Smiling at the camera obnoxiously when another wrestler is trying to build heat for a feud. No-selling losses so he can chuckle that he got pinned. If John Cena can't take anything that happens to him seriously, than why should any person watching? As much as Cena doesn't deserve all the crap he gets, he does have to be held accountable for the amount he brings on himself for his unwillingness to address his faults.

Cena will win at Wrestlemania. Rock understands that wrestling is fake and has never gave a shit about winning or losing. Cena is the guy that will be sticking around, and I'm sure Rock will lose the match in order to give Cena some kind of rub going on from there. I'm willing to bet whatever plan the WWE has for the end of the match will backfire tremendously when Rock loses in his hometown and shakes Cena's hand as a sign of respect.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by lotjx

    Austin and Rock have always pushed for other guys. They know they need foils, hell I think it was Austin and Foley pushing for Rock. Austin wanted to face Eddie before he quit. Rock and Foley ate a lot of pins for HHH. So, the idea that Rock or Austin never did that is ludicrous. Cena may push for Punk, but his promo was done to make Punk look like shit.
    (edited by lotjx on 21.2.12 0844)


I don't want to get in tit for tat with you because kicking that particular self-destructive postingg habit was a good idea but Cena's been plenty supportive of those he likes. He vouched for Evan Bourne to management, he made a point of getting Zack Ryder each week, he bent over backwards to putt Punk over, and I've never ever heard of him having a problem with jobbing. I buy not liking the way he's been booked, but by every single account of the man he's one of the most ego-free top guys in the history of the sport.

EDIT: Holy Hell not the "Cena is no great shakes in the ring" bullshit again.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 21.2.12 0909)
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.09
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      Originally posted by lotjx

      Austin and Rock have always pushed for other guys. They know they need foils, hell I think it was Austin and Foley pushing for Rock. Austin wanted to face Eddie before he quit. Rock and Foley ate a lot of pins for HHH. So, the idea that Rock or Austin never did that is ludicrous. Cena may push for Punk, but his promo was done to make Punk look like shit.
      (edited by lotjx on 21.2.12 0844)


    I don't want to get in tit for tat with you because kicking that particular self-destructive postingg habit was a good idea but Cena's been plenty supportive of those he likes. He vouched for Evan Bourne to management, he made a point of getting Zack Ryder each week, he bent over backwards to putt Punk over, and I've never ever heard of him having a problem with jobbing. I buy not liking the way he's been booked, but by every single account of the man he's one of the most ego-free top guys in the history of the sport.

    EDIT: Holy Hell not the "Cena is no great shakes in the ring" bullshit again.

    (edited by Amos Cochran on 21.2.12 0909)


He isn't that great in the ring. He is not god awful bowling ball shoe ugly either. He is just ok. I am sure backstage he is more than willing to help guys, he has done an ok job with Ryder. I do think hooking them up was to take some of Ryder's heat and put on Cena which I have no idea if that worked well or not since that crowd was pretty wack a doodle. If he is vocal backstage fine, but the terrorist comment he made about Punk was way out of line which is the other problem with Cena. As much as we say HHH buries the roster and he got another cracker again last night, Cena does it too.

His entire promo last night was a burial job on Rock. Yes, it was nice to see some real emotion out of him and he made some valid points however, he came off looking like a red haired step child. It was cheer me, because I have been the dutiful son while the other son has prospered far beyond what our spiteful Dad wanted him as well as are other spiteful sons. To me, Rock coming back and never leaving was creating the Twitter and facebook page where he does a good job posting everyday. Granted, its Hang in their Kitty inspirational tweets, but he is still connecting with his fans. To me, Cena kinda fucked that up about the twitter account, because as WWE says Twitter is very, very, very important to them. Even though anyone with a brain knows its really not. Cena opening the twitter door is Rock's out for not leaving plus, Rock's ten minute promo last year addressed that issue. Yet, Cena keeps bringing it up.

Prophet is right, Cena is going to win and the mutual respect handshake is going to be booed out of the building. Its going to be WM 2000 again. People who are going to buy this match whether it be a ticket or PPV, a good chunk of them want to see Rock kick his ass and when they doesn't happen, April 9th when Cena is mugging for the camera, he maybe doing to a lot less fans in the arena and at home.



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
Cena will win in Miami. Youth must be served. The Rock understand this as Hogan did at WrestleMania 18. It's not about who wins and who lost. What's important is the performance, the emotion, the roller coaster, raising the level of the game. I groused that The Rock shouldn't have returned at Survivor Series because the "specialness" of his first match back was lost, but I'm glad now he did, because now the question of whether The Rock "still has it" is not part of the equation. The Rock absolutely does still have it.

This WrestleMania match is about Rock helping Cena raise his game, and I hope in real life that Cena understands this: Rock is here to help him. If WrestleMania draws like they hope it does, more eyes will be on Cena as the leader of WWE than ever before, lots of eyes that have never seen him or cared to see him. Everyone already knows The Rock and what he Brings, and Survivor Series cemented he's still who he was before he left for 7 years. This is Cena's showcase, his job performance review, his reckoning. Cena's predecessor and, I believe, his better is coming to Miami to make him prove he really is at The Rock's level and deserves to be.

I want to see the best performance John Cena has ever given in his life in Miami, nothing less.

(edited by John Orquiola on 21.2.12 0743)


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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Sounds like the highlight of the show was Punk namedropping Buck Zumhoffe.


I don't think it's too big a secret (for anyone older than 30) that Mr. Zumhoffe is a native of the Land of 10,000 Lakes, but Punk's name-dropping was likely for the benefit of the handful of Minneapolis-based wrestlers in the crowd. They enjoy making fun of ol' Rock 'n' Roll from time to time backstage.

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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
And now back to Eve, and chatter from her peers and co-workers on Twitter:

@trishstratuscom
Digging @EveMarieTorres' storyline, nothing like a little character development! And gr8 performance too. I smell a heel turn #beliEVE #Raw

@realMickFoley
I really hope the actions of @EveMarieTorres will not affect my amazing package Take a look and let me know realmickfoley.com/mania

@HacksawJDuggan
So far I'm hearing that @EveMarieTorres is a HooOooOoo! I'd still slobber on those knockers! USA! USA! USA! ;Q

Really, Hacksaw. You're a married man and a parent.

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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I THOUGHT EVE WAS AMAZING. We never knew, we never knew. We should've seen it coming when she never showed a discernible personality trait beyond buttshaking for four years. Eve Torres is a psychopath. Of all the people Kane was trying to teach, she was the one who embraced the hate. Eve was such a terrifically awful person that the crowd supported John Cena over her. Ryder vs. Eve pointsatsign, the 5th of our main events.


For the record, I thought the execution was awful, but I loved it. I LOL'd MFAO continuously. Eve is a succubus and the dumbest supervillainness ever. The Bellas' reaction to her being such a dummy and blatantly yelling out her evil plan to the camera man and John Cena standing right behind her was outstanding.

And you hit it: There's only one person now in whose arms Eve can find compassion and understanding, that ladykiller Kane.

Zack Ryder vs. Kane, with Eve in the Revenge of The Broski over the Monster and his Hoeski match at pointstosign.

(edited by John Orquiola on 21.2.12 0835)

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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
If Ryder really wants to kick it up a notch he needs to start posting passive-aggressive "Zack Facts" like "Zack does not like it when people he love sbetray his soul. WWYKI!"
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#51 Posted on
    Originally posted by dwaters
    Who or what is Chris Jericho supposed to be since coming back? Guy who doesn't talk? Light up jacket guy? Best in the World? Face? Heel? Is it me or has he been all over the place and nowhere at the same time?



I'm with you. Jericho is my favorite wrestler of all-time, but I'm quite disappointed with this comeback thus far. I haven't the faintest idea what's going on with his current persona. He's wearing the jacket which colorful, goofy, long-haired babyface Y2J would wear and yet still cutting the Nick Bockwinkel meets Javier Bardem promos on everyone (after not talking for weeks -- which was awful).

I have faith that his WM match can steal the show because he's a workhorse, but I'm not really buying into this feud at all (nor do I buy "it's the end of the world as you know it" as a catchphrase).
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
      Originally posted by odessasteps
      Sounds like the highlight of the show was Punk namedropping Buck Zumhoffe.


    I don't think it's too big a secret (for anyone older than 30) that Mr. Zumhoffe is a native of the Land of 10,000 Lakes, but Punk's name-dropping was likely for the benefit of the handful of Minneapolis-based wrestlers in the crowd. They enjoy making fun of ol' Rock 'n' Roll from time to time backstage.

    Pipe-bomb!


Now, if he had name dropped Wally Karbo or Ken Resnick, I would have shit my pants.
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.55
Man, Raw - especially the main events - have been astoundingly sloppy and dangerous-looking since the night after TLC, when it briefly looked like Ryder got hurt. They need to cut down on the number of over-the-top-rope spots for a few weeks, both from the altruistic "this is getting people hurt at an alarming rate" standpoint and from the realistic "they need somebody, anybody not dead to fill out Wrestlemania" position.

That sequence of about a minute where it looked like they lost Barrett, Ziggler, Truth and Kofi in back-to-back-to-back-to-back spots was insane. And then throwing Santino out on top of Barrett and the EMTs? I was stunned that they didn't quickly realize the need to do the Santino elimination in another direction, and seeing Kofi get eliminated like that right after it looked like Ziggler may have broken his face/neck was genuinely tense, scary shit.

Interesting to see how they responded to it in ring, I guess. It looked like Jericho took over and used the "Hey, we're evil, let's gang up on the big guy" spot to reign everyone back in and get Show's attention away from the car crash next to him, and I'm guessing they made whatever contingency plans they needed while doing the double suplex reverse spot. I also assumed, in the moment and still do, that Cody's leg giving out was just him selling it. The cameras catching Jericho turning his victory lap into a quick chance to get an update on how badly Wade was hurt was also kind of fascinating.

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      Dolph is fine, he wrestled the dark match after Raw went off the air in a title match against CM Punk. So Dolph had two shots of headlining Wrestlemania. Oh well, glad he appears to be okay.


    I figured Dolph was fine when he did that awesome cartoonish slide down the announce table with his face after the bump.


That was wild. When I saw him slide down like that, the only thought I had was that either he was dead or a brilliant physical actor. As you say, that was some hardcore Daffy Duck selling right there. Ziggler Season!

Takeaways/moving forward from all that: First, they better hope Christian/Del Rio can go. They might also want to think about paring down the Long v. Ace match so there are live bodies for MITB, or they're going to have to fill it out with a bunch of (in decreasing order of importance) lower card guys/NXT people/the tag team division.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I truly believe in my heart that this Laurinatis/Teddy thing will lead to Drew McIntyre picking up a big win for Theodore R. in the hour of his deepest need. It is gonna be genuinely heartwarming.
Yeah, this was my very first thought when it came up in the Elimination Chamber results thread: Drew should be the key guy in this. Does he screw Teddy or turn face? The Teddy/face side is really, really short on names and star power (why not try Christian out as a face so he can induct Edge and rebalance things for the face side, anyway?). I kinda hope they throw Regal in there to give them a solid worker and play the "I've been a GM, I know how hard it is, playa" speech to back Team Teddy, and so we get a Regal/Otunga segment.

At this point, they'd be crazy to put Santino anywhere but in MITB. Santino almost winning the Rumble last year, the Elimination Chamber this year and the Battle Royal last night have been over huge, so it'd be a mistake not to have him almost win MITB at Wrestlemania, too. Kofi has to be in to be the guy who can do crazy bumps and not die. Miz goes here because there's nowhere else for him to go. I guess Truth goes here, but man, I worry about him after the last few weeks. Gabriel could go here, but they might need him and Slater to do some of the lifting for the Long/Ace match? Ziggler here because he can only be killed if he falls off a ladder into a vat of Dip. Swagger here because what other heels do they have without Wade/Cody? Ziggler sneakily getting the case instead of Santino seems like the best heel finish. Kofi winning (and then being the first guy to cash in and lose, naturally) seems like the most likely face finish.

Do we get Kane/Ryder? If not, what's Kane's payday...does he tear off the Cell door at the end to save Undertaker/carry out his broken body instead of trying to kill him to bring things full circle?

In the end, not putting Jericho over at the Rumble has really, really made things more difficult for them than they needed to be. Punk/Jericho could have already been building, the Elimination Chamber could have been Sheamus winning #1 conterdship, they wouldn't have needed a Faux Royal Rumble to get the other title match and they wouldn't have nearly killed half the upper midcard last night doing it.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Undertaker and Triple H was freaking phenomenal. Real emotion, the highest stakes, great acting from Triple H, crowd completely on the hook. Never saw HIAC coming -- so it'll now be the first HIAC that matters in four years. And it also means they can not only involve Michaels in this, but have Foley do interviews. This is gonna be great. Get on board.
I'm with you 99% of the time here, but man, do these guys reallyneed 20 minutes to a half hour every week, every February? UT kinda earned that "WHAT?"-ing by rambling like he was. They just can't help but be overly pretentious with these segments, and you can cut ten minutes out and get that same crowd reaction it took them 20 minutes to finally get if you cut the "WE'RE THE LAST OF OUR KIND!"/"I'm a BUSINESS, man, not a businessman!" (though I'd mark hard if HHH dropped that one) references by half (especially with five to ten other guys still who could be at WM who have decade-long roots). If they weren't so hellbent on telling us "THIS IS IMPORTANT!" over and over and over, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe them. That said, the HiaC addition was a surprise and did get the crowd hot. I kinda wonder about them trying to upstage Cena/Rock, but I guess this will be the match where the No Blood restriction is lifted and one/both of them end up covered in it to make for some amazing video packages. And, obviously, they're both easily smart enough workers to turn in a great match in the Cell.

Finally, on Cena/Rock. I'm not getting caught up in the content of the speech (because I think the "Cena and the boys really do hate The Rock!" stuff that's been leaking out is a work to specifically goad our demographic into caring about this again) and the silliness of the "He left, but I never did!" argument people make for Cena/UT/HHH (where else WOULD they go?). But on delivery, Cena friggin' nailed it, finally. It almost makes me more bummed out because it took them 11 months to figure out this was how to build it, but eh, whatever, that was exactly what they needed and I think that was The Actor John Cena giving The Actor Dwayne Johnson the high sign to go to town next week if he's got it in him. Hopefully, everyone is secure enough that Rock is sent out there to make the specific "Wrestling used to be great, now it stinks!" argument to pander to old people/anger kids to make this the Old Fan vs. New Fan civil war it should have been all along, where they're both right and both wrong at the same time.
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#54 Posted on
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Miz's Hate Girl has been replaced by Punk's Love Girl. Right before he sat down to do commentary, he stopped to talk to a girl in a Punk shirt at ringside, and her joy is operatic. You could almost see an aura around her. That was my favorite moment of RAW.



You saw that too? That scene was adorable. Welcome to Jeff Hardy territory Punk! Watch out for the needles though.
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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.54
    Originally posted by CruelAngel777
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Miz's Hate Girl has been replaced by Punk's Love Girl. Right before he sat down to do commentary, he stopped to talk to a girl in a Punk shirt at ringside, and her joy is operatic. You could almost see an aura around her. That was my favorite moment of RAW.



    You saw that too? That scene was adorable. Welcome to Jeff Hardy territory Punk! Watch out for the needles though.


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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I'm confused on how much input a top guy has on all of this. It's great that Cena vouched for Ryder and Bourne, but can't he say "Hey, I want a program with these guys and end it in a PPV match"? (I guess he sorta did for Ryder). And if he had sway, why not go to Vince and say "I think Rock is in it for the wrong reasons, I'd rather do a WM match with someone else here"? Or at least when he teamed up with Rock and wrestled Miz/Truth, not to let them look like total losers? There were plenty of chances for him to step up and be a leader (if this is how he really feels) and he didn't do that.



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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.64
    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    were plenty of chances for him to step up and be a leader




      But he wanted to B.A.Star

      (edited by CHAPLOW on 21.2.12 1154)
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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.93
-The biggest highlight of the night for me was during the Ron Simmons induction. They showed his title win against Vader where the black kid goes batshit.

-"What" almost neuters every good thing Austin ever did. Hate that shit. You could tell some of the crowd was getting pissed though.

-If they do MITB this year, let Santino win it. Guy is over and has done every stupid thing they've asked him. Plus he'd get a lot of mileage out of the briefcase.

-If Punk doesn't legit hate Cole, he's a better actor than I thought. There seemed to be quite a bit of venom between the two.

-So we've got 4 matches already in stone. Good deal. Assuming an 8 match card, what other matches would you want? For me:

1. MITB
2. Miz Vs Truth - I think both guys deserve a Mania payday and have a good feud going.
3. Kharma Vs Phoenix
4. Um...I'd be satisfied with those 7.

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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
I predict Kharma will not resurface until after WrestleMania and there's no reason to even mention her. (Her Rumble appearance was clearly a "Rob van Dam")

DISCLAIMER: This probably means she'll be on tonight's Super Smackdown



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
On paper, if we're reading the angles playing out right, WrestleMania looks to be:

Cena vs. Rock
Undertaker vs. HHH Hell in a Cell
Punk vs. Jericho
Bryan vs. Sheamus
Shaq and Show vs. Cody and ?? Drew, maybe? (Injured Wade at ringside?)
Kharma vs. Beth
RAW GM vs. Smackdown GM teams - One GM to GM Them All
Money in the Bank
Kane with Eve vs. Zack

That's 9 matches already, all with angles, except MITB, which needs no angle. A hell of a good potential line up, I think. Nothing I personally don't care to see.



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That one kinda has me worried, too.
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