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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.30
    Originally posted by CRZ
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      Undertaker and Triple H was freaking phenomenal. Real emotion, the highest stakes, great acting from Triple H, crowd on the hook.
    The crowd that was giving "What?" to Undertaker - UNDERTAKER?


It was a respectful "What?", much like a crowd would give to Stone Cold or during the National Anthem. I could tell the difference the same way people could distinguish "X-Pac heat" from other heel heat. It was in the inflection.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
In case anybody was really curious about the other matches:

Dark Match:

Ryback d. JTG

Ryback is, of course, Skip "Yip Yip This Is a Catchphrase!" Sheffield, and he hasn't changed his look or moveset at all, so that should work out well.

Superstars:

Michael McGillicutty d. Alex Riley

Crowd was still *really* into Alex Riley for no real reason, except for the handful of guys chanting "Mr. Perfect." Really long match for these two. Gilly won clean.

Tyler Rex (w/ Curt Hawkins) d. Mason Ryan

I didn't realize the Cartoon Crew were together on TV too, but that's what I get for missing a bunch of secondary programming since I "retired." I'm pretty sure Hawkins cheated for Rex, but I missed it.

Post Raw:

CM Punk d. Dolph Ziggler

Dolph didn't show any signs of injury after the main, so I don't think he actually hurt anything. It was a pretty short match though, and they didn't do much but run through their big spots, so they could've hid it, I guess.

John Cena d. Kane

Another really short, work a bunch of stuff in and send the crowd home happy (?) with Cena winning.

A few quick live notes:

-Wade looked seriously messed up, the trainers were holding his arm together as he walked off.

-No Jericho merchandise, which kind of shocked me, or Bryan merchandise (which didn't, but he has a shirt)

-I'm sort of embarassed that the crowd "What"d Undertaker.

-The drive home was a disaster thanks to the snow. Yet another thing we can blame on Eve.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
The Barrett injury was yuck. There was some footage where he was on the ground with the arm in question extended and he moved his shoulder and the forearm gave that 'not fully attached' wobble. ick.

I did wonder about putting all the EC playas into a match where they would all have to take a top rope to floor bump. Those guys all had to be pretty sore. Especially, as others have said more eloquently than I ever could, seeings as the match was kinda redundant in that an angle with the same result was right there. Oh well, I'm sure they know more than I do. Glad that once the body count was totted up things aren't as bad as they looked they might have been.

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04

So, Eve is two-faced? One more to go.

Sounds like the highlight of the show was Punk namedropping Buck Zumhoffe.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by odessasteps


    Sounds like the highlight of the show was Punk namedropping Buck Zumhoffe.


No, the highlight of the show was the awesome Undertaker/HHH promo and John Cena finally getting to talk properly.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.88
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      Originally posted by odessasteps


      Sounds like the highlight of the show was Punk namedropping Buck Zumhoffe.


    No, the highlight of the show was the awesome Undertaker/HHH promo and John Cena finally getting to talk properly.


Agreed, I didn't like the Cena promo at the beginning of the show but I did like the one at the end of the show. I wish that he would stop the grinning, though. It just takes so much away from an otherwise serious promo. If we can do away with the grinning and goofball, cheesy jokes, I could get behind this.

I also wish they would make up their mind with Santino - it's like they push him seriously one night and then flip flop and put him out as fodder. Seriously, we want to cheer for him. I do appreciate the fact that he was one of the final four but they are so schizophrenic on him. I wouldn't mind seeing a serious Bryan vs. Santino feud, honestly. He's entertaining and can match up against him. In a way, and not just because of the sock thing, he does remind me of a Mick Foley in the way that he can get the crowd seriously behind him.

As for the Hell in a Cell, let's go for it. They *have* to let them go all out, though, to make it worthwhile. The culmination of essentially a legacy, there's no way they can do a tame HiaC. I do like that it's pretty much wide open in terms of trying to pick a winner, though. I mean you can go either way - do they have Undertaker finish with the streak in tact or do they end up with a blemish? Either way tells a compelling story.

Ron Simmons was a fantastic choice for the Hall of Fame, too. Going in in the same class as the Four Horsemen is quite the distinction, as well.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
    Originally posted by Matches
    Hate him or hate him, it's hard to argue with Cena As Face when he has such good ammunition to work with. McMahon sour grapes or not, in strictly wrestling terms, it's easy to see why Cena by rights should be the crowd favorite in this match.


Let me try to understand this logic. John Cena should be the babyface because of... why? Because The Rock left the company and became the biggest crossover star in Hollywood the pro wrestling business has ever seen. John Cena should be the babyface despite that for six years he has been booed - by you - because the majority of fans over the age of 15 have been consistently tired of his squeaky clean PG image as the leader of company and as the number one star in the business. Those 6 years of hating Cena and booing him and grousing about his workrate or his booking or his pandering, unfunny promos - we should suddenly see all that has a virtue. Because at least he was around. Boring you and making you angry, sure, but at least he was here. Oh, and John Cena never left to make bad movies, no sir. His movies suck too and he totally admits it, wink wink, but hey, at least he did both: annoyed you for 6 years and then asked you to watch him act - though c'mon, he's not an actor and his movies suck.

The Rock left the business and left the majority of us with great memories of being one of the most entertaining stars during the most enjoyable period of watching wrestling. The nerve of that guy for winning every championship and doing everything there is to do in WWE before he was 35 and then deciding he wanted more out of his life. And then despite absolutely not needing to financially or professionally because he has nothing to prove, he saw the sorry state of the business - the business lead by John Cena - and decided he wanted to help and agreed to give us a dream match for WrestleMania, one of the only dream matches left in pro wrestling. And then, get this, he continued to stay in Hollywood and make his mediocre movies, having the most successful year of his film career while promoting the fact that he will be main eventing WrestleMania to the audience outside WWE, creating interest that hasn't cared about WWE in the years since Cena has been leading the company.

But The Rock is the bad guy here. Because he left. And John Cena has perfect attendance. And the last six years of Cena as the top guy were the most enjoyable you've ever had as a fan. Weren't they?

Cena's the face, Rock's the heel. Okay, sure, John. Whatever you say.

I see their WrestleMania match as The Rock holding John Cena accountable for his actions as leader of WWE. This is a reckoning. The torch was passed from The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin to John Cena - and what did he do with it? Is WWE better, more entertaining, more enjoyable? Cena is angry and defensive because HE HAS NO DEFENSE to the accusation that he era he leads is a pale shadow of the Attitude Era. Every time Cena harps that I AM HERE... don't you see, John? That just makes it worse for you.

The fact that Cena cut an entertaining, disrespectful promo last night makes his position worse - Cena could have been more entertaining than he was but he held back for 6 years. We know he had it in him but he kept pandering instead. Cena changes the subject to every other thing under the sun, mainly: The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here. But you are, John Cena. You are. And what have you been doing, and why does half that audience boo you every night? Why is that? That's the point.

(edited by John Orquiola on 21.2.12 0523)

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
Johnny O pretty much hit my giant complaint about Cena dead on. The reason, Cena is here every night is no one wants him. If Hollywood didn't want Rock, he would have been back years ago. As for the being here day in a day out, Rock only needs to remind fans why Edge is going into the HOF, this year. Cena can do it for the boys in the back, but at the end of the day, the boys will be more pleased to see Rock at Mania since they know there will be a massive bonus after the gate, PPV and merchandise money comes in. Without Rock does anyone really think Cena/Miz as the main event was going to do 1 million buys? No, so lets move on.

Hell in the Cell, better be bloody. I am tired of watching cage matches, elimination chambers and everyone looks as good as they did coming in. This needs to be the bloody epic conclusion to this storyline. I also question if Taker/HHH are doing everything in their power to take the spotlight away from everyone else when this is really the PPV to showcase Punk, Bryan, Dolph, Cody and the other new stars and breakout stars. I also don't like this talk of HHH is the only one who can beat Taker at Mania. If HHH fails then what?

They have to pick a side wit Santino either he is a legit contender or not. Having him tap out to Bryan, not the most feared champion of all time, in five minutes was head scratching to Santino being in the final four of the Battle Royal. Punk on commentary was amazing. The battle royal was a complete clusterfuck from the word go. Sucks for Wade. It was a very weird show highlighted by the ten minute Eve breakdown. I am not saying it was a bad or good Raw, but just it felt off.


(edited by lotjx on 21.2.12 0728)


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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Matches
      Hate him or hate him, it's hard to argue with Cena As Face when he has such good ammunition to work with. McMahon sour grapes or not, in strictly wrestling terms, it's easy to see why Cena by rights should be the crowd favorite in this match.


    Let me try to understand this logic. John Cena should be the babyface because of... why? Because The Rock left the company and became the biggest crossover star in Hollywood the pro wrestling business has ever seen. John Cena should be the babyface despite that for six years he has been booed - by you - because the majority of fans over the age of 15 have been consistently tired of his squeaky clean PG image as the leader of company and as the number one star in the business. Those 6 years of hating Cena and booing him and grousing about his workrate or his booking or his pandering, unfunny promos - we should suddenly see all that has a virtue. Because at least he was around. Boring you and making you angry, sure, but at least he was here. Oh, and John Cena never left to make bad movies, no sir. His movies suck too and he totally admits it, wink wink, but hey, at least he did both: annoyed you for 6 years and then asked you to watch him act - though c'mon, he's not an actor and his movies suck.

    The Rock left the business and left the majority of us with great memories of being one of the most entertaining stars during the most enjoyable period of watching wrestling. The nerve of that guy for winning every championship and doing everything there is to do in WWE before he was 35 and then deciding he wanted more out of his life. And then despite absolutely not needing to financially or professionally because he has nothing to prove, he saw the sorry state of the business - the business lead by John Cena - and decided he wanted to help and agreed to give us a dream match for WrestleMania, one of the only dream matches left in pro wrestling. And then, get this, he continued to stay in Hollywood and make his mediocre movies, having the most successful year of his film career while promoting the fact that he will be main eventing WrestleMania to the audience outside WWE, creating interest that hasn't cared about WWE in the years since Cena has been leading the company.

    But The Rock is the bad guy here. Because he left. And John Cena has perfect attendance. And the last six years of Cena as the top guy were the most enjoyable you've ever had as a fan. Weren't they?

    Cena's the face, Rock's the heel. Okay, sure, John. Whatever you say.

    I see their WrestleMania match as The Rock holding John Cena accountable for his actions as leader of WWE. This is a reckoning. The torch was passed from The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin to John Cena - and what did he do with it? Is WWE better, more entertaining, more enjoyable? Cena is angry and defensive because HE HAS NO DEFENSE to the accusation that he era he leads is a pale shadow of the Attitude Era. Every time Cena harps that I AM HERE... don't you see, John? That just makes it worse for you.

    The fact that Cena cut an entertaining, disrespectful promo last night makes his position worse - Cena could have been more entertaining than he was but he held back for 6 years. We know he had it in him but he kept pandering instead. Cena changes the subject to every other thing under the sun, mainly: The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here. But you are, John Cena. You are. And what have you been doing, and why does half that audience boo you every night? Why is that? That's the point.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 21.2.12 0523)


I'm probably over-analysing this but part of me has a feeling that they're going to position Cena as the heel in this angle, using the old Michael Hayes/Mick Foley maxim of "a heel always thinks he's justified in what he says and does, even if it flies in the face of conventional wisdom". If next week goes the way I see it going with Rock throwing out a catchphrase, a Boots To Asses speech, Fruity Pebbles reference and finishes up with talk about yum rockets and the audience eating it all up, I can see Cena cutting a promo along the lines of "WTF,I'm always here and he shows up every now and then and you cheer HIM? FML fuck all y'all".

Now watch as absolutely none of this happens and I feel a little dumber for investing my time and money in all of this.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
In many folks' eyes John Cena is a face because at least he's honest. No-one's denying Rock his time in Hollywood or his choice to walk away, but to lie and say he's back for good and WWE is his home and blah blah is disengenuous and a slap in the face to the fans.

And WWE being sucky for six years isn't exactly on Cena. He's probably the hardest working guy they've had in that time frame. His biggest fault would be not standing up to the bosses, but who WOULD say "hey guys, maybe I shouldn't be the highest paid most featured guy on the show"?

I dunno. I feel like John's response is exactly what they want here - the Team Cena Vs. Team Rock thing.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
My logic to Cena being the face in the match is quite simple. He has a good point Rock left while gone he flat out told the world he isn't the Rock any more he is an actor and he that's what he wants to be. Then he Shows up on Raw says " He isn't leaving again" then he left and didn't show up till mania. Then he left again and didn't show up till Summer Slam. Then he left AGAIN only to show up to do self promotion and will only come back to build mania then he's going to leave AGAIN. Cena unless hes hurt he ALWAYS shows up. Even if you don't like him as a performer as a man I respect the hell outta him he puts his job as a WWE Superstar above being an actor.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.15
Pretty good show, considering many guys were probably banged up after the PPV, (only to be made worse tonight!). Gald to hear most of the guys were okay, it looked pretty bad as the show was going off the air.

Taker and HHH were great, if a bit long. Loved Taker saying Shawn was better than HHH. The truth hurts.

What I don’t get is, you have a guy like Santino, who was apparently as over as anyone on the roster the night before, and they decide to squash him on Raw to Bryan, a guy who has been booked to be lucky to be champ all this time. Yet they try to recapture the magic of the PPV later on in the battle royal with Santino? I don’t get that. The fans like the guy, go with it, don’t punish them for cheering the wrong person.





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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
    Originally posted by yamcharulez
    My logic to Cena being the face in the match is quite simple. He has a good point Rock left while gone he flat out told the world he isn't the Rock any more he is an actor and he that's what he wants to be. Then he Shows up on Raw says " He isn't leaving again" then he left and didn't show up till mania. Then he left again and didn't show up till Summer Slam. Then he left AGAIN only to show up to do self promotion and will only come back to build mania then he's going to leave AGAIN. Cena unless hes hurt he ALWAYS shows up. Even if you don't like him as a performer as a man I respect the hell outta him he puts his job as a WWE Superstar above being an actor.


If you show up and 50% to 60% of the audience is booing the hell out of you, the ratings are going down and the buyrate is getting destroyed by UFC maybe you shouldn't show up. TLC did the same numbers as the other PPVS did without Cena. To Amos, maybe if he was the company guy and loves the boys in the back, he should have said, you know what, I think I should take a step back and let them create other faces. He never has.

It took Punk being close to walking out the door, before they got on his bandwagon even then Cena tried to run him down with his terrorist comment. The reality is Cena wants the public to see him being in the big leagues like Hogan, Rock, Austin, Flair and Taker. He probably never will. Even with all the power of the WWE PR machine, a lot of people see through him especially his wrestling. If anyone has the ability to be the big giant star, its Punk. Cena has had six good years for him and his match with Rock may put him in that league, but to do so, Rock has to carry him there and I think that is what grates Cena, Vince and the others. For all their "We make stars out of anyone." They need someone like Rock who has been gone for almost a decade to finally make Cena into their giant star even though I think that ship has sailed. Yes, its the dream match, we want to see, but if I don't know if its going to be good.

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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.49
Who or what is Chris Jericho supposed to be since coming back? Guy who doesn't talk? Light up jacket guy? Best in the World? Face? Heel? Is it me or has he been all over the place and nowhere at the same time?

Hope they realized they just made a Hell in a Cell match for a stadium show and can't exactly lower the cage from the ceiling. It will be good on TV, but I feel for the fans sitting up in the 400 section. The wrestlers will go from looking like ants to ants in a box.

Wasn't The Rock supposed to go into the Hall of Fame since it's Miami and all?
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.54
Miz's Hate Girl has been replaced by Punk's Love Girl. Right before he sat down to do commentary, he stopped to talk to a girl in a Punk shirt at ringside, and her joy is operatic. You could almost see an aura around her. That was my favorite moment of RAW.

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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by lotjx

    If you show up and 50% to 60% of the audience is booing the hell out of you, the ratings are going down and the buyrate is getting destroyed by UFC maybe you shouldn't show up.


I'm willing to bet WWE would be in a lot worse shape had they not had Cena or a Cena equivalent for the last six years.


    To Amos, maybe if he was the company guy and loves the boys in the back, he should have said, you know what, I think I should take a step back and let them create other faces. He never has.


You can count on one fat shaggy Long Islander the number of people willing to be this ego-free in wrestling. ROck and Austin certainly never did this.


    It took Punk being close to walking out the door, before they got on his bandwagon even then Cena tried to run him down with his terrorist comment.


The same Cena who vocally pushed for Punk to stay with the company and sang his praises to management? And who put Punk over more than anyone else in Punk's entire WWE career? That Cena?


    The reality is Cena wants the public to see him being in the big leagues like Hogan, Rock, Austin, Flair and Taker. He probably never will. Even with all the power of the WWE PR machine, a lot of people see through him especially his wrestling. If anyone has the ability to be the big giant star, its Punk. Cena has had six good years for him and his match with Rock may put him in that league, but to do so, Rock has to carry him there and I think that is what grates Cena, Vince and the others. For all their "We make stars out of anyone." They need someone like Rock who has been gone for almost a decade to finally make Cena into their giant star even though I think that ship has sailed. Yes, its the dream match, we want to see, but if I don't know if its going to be good.


I think the $101million Cena supposedly brought to WWE in one year alone is enough to qualify him as a huge star, myself. If Cena had broken through in 1999, with the way WWE was booked he would be one of the most respected names of the last decade. His bad timing, I guess.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 21.2.12 0820)
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
By the way, it was exactly one year ago today John Cena brought back The Doctor of Thuganomics and tore The Rock a new one in rhyme.


Which, mind you, Cena quickly apologized for.

(edited by John Orquiola on 21.2.12 0629)


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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.58
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Matches
      Hate him or hate him, it's hard to argue with Cena As Face when he has such good ammunition to work with. McMahon sour grapes or not, in strictly wrestling terms, it's easy to see why Cena by rights should be the crowd favorite in this match.


    Let me try to understand this logic. John Cena should be the babyface because of... why? Because The Rock left the company and became the biggest crossover star in Hollywood the pro wrestling business has ever seen. John Cena should be the babyface despite that for six years he has been booed - by you - because the majority of fans over the age of 15 have been consistently tired of his squeaky clean PG image as the leader of company and as the number one star in the business. Those 6 years of hating Cena and booing him and grousing about his workrate or his booking or his pandering, unfunny promos - we should suddenly see all that has a virtue. Because at least he was around. Boring you and making you angry, sure, but at least he was here. Oh, and John Cena never left to make bad movies, no sir. His movies suck too and he totally admits it, wink wink, but hey, at least he did both: annoyed you for 6 years and then asked you to watch him act - though c'mon, he's not an actor and his movies suck.

    The Rock left the business and left the majority of us with great memories of being one of the most entertaining stars during the most enjoyable period of watching wrestling. The nerve of that guy for winning every championship and doing everything there is to do in WWE before he was 35 and then deciding he wanted more out of his life. And then despite absolutely not needing to financially or professionally because he has nothing to prove, he saw the sorry state of the business - the business lead by John Cena - and decided he wanted to help and agreed to give us a dream match for WrestleMania, one of the only dream matches left in pro wrestling. And then, get this, he continued to stay in Hollywood and make his mediocre movies, having the most successful year of his film career while promoting the fact that he will be main eventing WrestleMania to the audience outside WWE, creating interest that hasn't cared about WWE in the years since Cena has been leading the company.

    But The Rock is the bad guy here. Because he left. And John Cena has perfect attendance. And the last six years of Cena as the top guy were the most enjoyable you've ever had as a fan. Weren't they?

    Cena's the face, Rock's the heel. Okay, sure, John. Whatever you say.


Don't worry, I'm sure the packed stadium of hardcore "smark" wrestling fans in the Rock's hometown of Miami will certainly see Cena as the face in the match, and really that's the only night that matters in this whole feud.
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
I interrupt this Cena/Rock business for some good news!

Click Here (lordsofpain.net) (by way of The Torch).

Partially dislocated elbow, which they popped back in the socket, gave him some morphine, and released him from the hospital. No surgery likely, and there is a good chance he'll be good to go at Mania.

EDIT; Speaking of Barrett.

EDIT #2: Alright, who knows? This from Road Dogg's Twitter:

"Prayers go out to Wade Barrett! A sidelining injury, not a career ender but he won't get a shot at Mania and that hurts my heart for him!"

(edited by El Nastio on 21.2.12 0941)
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.52
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Let me try to understand this logic. John Cena should be the babyface because of... why? Because The Rock left the company and became the biggest crossover star in Hollywood the pro wrestling business has ever seen. John Cena should be the babyface despite that for six years he has been booed - by you - because the majority of fans over the age of 15 have been consistently tired of his squeaky clean PG image as the leader of company and as the number one star in the business. Those 6 years of hating Cena and booing him and grousing about his workrate or his booking or his pandering, unfunny promos - we should suddenly see all that has a virtue. Because at least he was around. Boring you and making you angry, sure, but at least he was here. Oh, and John Cena never left to make bad movies, no sir. His movies suck too and he totally admits it, wink wink, but hey, at least he did both: annoyed you for 6 years and then asked you to watch him act - though c'mon, he's not an actor and his movies suck.

    The Rock left the business and left the majority of us with great memories of being one of the most entertaining stars during the most enjoyable period of watching wrestling. The nerve of that guy for winning every championship and doing everything there is to do in WWE before he was 35 and then deciding he wanted more out of his life. And then despite absolutely not needing to financially or professionally because he has nothing to prove, he saw the sorry state of the business - the business lead by John Cena - and decided he wanted to help and agreed to give us a dream match for WrestleMania, one of the only dream matches left in pro wrestling. And then, get this, he continued to stay in Hollywood and make his mediocre movies, having the most successful year of his film career while promoting the fact that he will be main eventing WrestleMania to the audience outside WWE, creating interest that hasn't cared about WWE in the years since Cena has been leading the company.

    But The Rock is the bad guy here. Because he left. And John Cena has perfect attendance. And the last six years of Cena as the top guy were the most enjoyable you've ever had as a fan. Weren't they?

    Cena's the face, Rock's the heel. Okay, sure, John. Whatever you say.

    I see their WrestleMania match as The Rock holding John Cena accountable for his actions as leader of WWE. This is a reckoning. The torch was passed from The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin to John Cena - and what did he do with it? Is WWE better, more entertaining, more enjoyable? Cena is angry and defensive because HE HAS NO DEFENSE to the accusation that he era he leads is a pale shadow of the Attitude Era. Every time Cena harps that I AM HERE... don't you see, John? That just makes it worse for you.

    The fact that Cena cut an entertaining, disrespectful promo last night makes his position worse - Cena could have been more entertaining than he was but he held back for 6 years. We know he had it in him but he kept pandering instead. Cena changes the subject to every other thing under the sun, mainly: The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here, The Rock isn't here. But you are, John Cena. You are. And what have you been doing, and why does half that audience boo you every night? Why is that? That's the point.


God, I so hope Cena wins at WM and comes out the next night saying the same exact things he was saying prior to WM. All the crap that pisses you off and makes "half the audience boo" is what makes me chuckle and half the audience cheer him every night. I can't wait to see him smiling into the camera, refraining from attempting to make crappy twitter trends ("Boots to Asses") and "respecting" your right to boo him every week. Just fantastic.
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This is sad to hear. Watching an event with fans is a good idea, but treating them like crap is best left to the bookers. Talked to Carl once during a phone-in show; we talked about the CRTC/TSN's censoring of Raw.
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