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TONIGHT: Will Sheamus, the 2012 Royal Rumble winner, choose which champion he’ll face tonight? Also, will Triple H fire John Laurinaitis as Interim Raw General Manager? Also on tap: Dolph Ziggler vs. Randy Orton in a singles match. The world didn’t end last night as prophesized by Chris Jericho…will he explain why not tonight? announced that Mike Tyson will be entering the WWE Hall-of-Fame the night before Wrestlemania, so we might get a Tyson announcement tonight as well. Speaking of, they’ve announced the Raw Elimination Chamber participants: CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler, R-Truth, The Miz, and Kofi Kingston.

- WWE Open.

- RAW Open.

- The show opened with Michael Cole welcoming the fans to Kansas City, Missouri after an “exciting, controversial” Royal Rumble. What was so controversial? I swear they use the same buzzwords for each PPV.

- Johnny Ace was introduced. Ace walked around ringside shaking hands with fans, as well as Cole. A graphic was shown with Sheamus celebrating last night’s win. He’ll decide who he faces tonight. Ace was in the ring with a mic and admitted that sure, he’s made mistakes. But the mark of a great man is to never make the same mistake twice – and he hasn’t. He was confident he’d be named the General Manager of Raw tonight. He said his evaluation would be done by one of the greatest of all-time, and his friend, Triple H. He talked about his performance at the Rumble, calling the WWE Title match down the middle. HE said one stop on the way to Wrestlemania is the “Elimination Pay Per-View.” That was a Mike Adamle-level botch. Laurinaitis introduced the Raw chamber participants as the PPV theme played and the graphics of the men were shown on the TitanTron. As for tonight, Beth Phoenix defends her Divas Championship against Eve. Kofi Kingston will face The MIz and Dolph Ziggler will face “the man who returns to Raw in over a month,” Randy Orton. And CM Punk takes on Daniel Bryan. Ace was going to keep going, but was interrupted by Punk’s theme. Cole and Lawler both noted Ace’s botches by saying he’s nervous.

Punk walked to the ring singing the goodbye song. He tried to let the crowd take over, but they weren’t doing a great job. He put the mic in front of Jerry Lawler, the WWE ringside doctor and Justin Roberts to help him out. Punk got in Ace’s face and told him, “goodbye clown shoes.” Ace asked for an apology from Punk, saying he was a man of his word and didn’t screw Punk. Actually, he did lie because he said he’d screw Punk (at least, at first). Punk put down Ace as “Elimination PPV” was shown to be trending on Twitter. Punk openly made fun of Ace for his mic work and talked about how he has managed to suck and blow at the same time. Vintage line there. Punk said he’s not Triple H’s biggest fan, but he can’t wait until he comes out to kick Ace’s carcass out the front door. Ace smiled and said he’s not going to take what Punk said personally. Ace said it’s about the Board of Directors, who know he’s honest, fair, and creative. Ace offered to start anew with Punk and offered him a handshake. Punk mockingly called him “sir” and said the only reason Ace would extend that hand is if he wanted to go to sleep. Daniel Bryan then came out to his music and Cole called this a “nerdfest.”

Bryan introduced himself to the crowd and asked if Punk and Ace remember him. He said nobody cares about their petty, personal problems. He said while they were conducting their soap opera last night, he defended his World Title in a Steel Cage. Bryan said that, compared to what he went through last night, Punk isn’t much of a challenge. Punk said he’s only the best wrestler in the world. Bryan responded that he’s more than a wrestler, he’s a role model. “I’m a vegan!” he said so proudly. Punk asked what he does eat. Bryan was offended and told Punk he’s liable to take his pipe bomb and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Punk backed down, saying they’ve known each other for 10 years, they’re friends, and Ace is just trying to stir up trouble. Sheamus walked out to his theme.

Sheamus said he wanted to remind everyone that he’s the winner of the 2012 Royal Rumble match. Sheamus said both men would be defending their titles in Elimination Chamber matches, and that Johnny Ace could be fired tonight. He said he earned the right to be in the main event at Wrestlemania. He said he will be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion after that, getting in Bryan’s face when he said “World Heavyweight Champion.” Sheamus said to Ace, “may Triple H kick you in the arse so hard, you’ll be throwing up your lace covered undies.” Ace smiled and Sheamus left to his theme. Good positioning of Sheamus following his win last night. Bryan and Punk stared at each other in the ring to close the segment, with Punk offering the hand and Bryan shaking it. Should’ve put him in the LeBell Lock after what Punk said about Ace offering his hand for the GTS earlier.

- Randy Orton vs. Dolph Ziggler is next.

[Commercial Break]

- Josh Mathews was in the luxury skybox of the arena with Wade Barrett as Randy Orton’s music played for his match. Cole announced that Orton would take on Barrett on Smackdown this week. Mathews asked Barrett’s opinion of the match and he said last time they had a match, he threw Orton down the stairs. This week, he’ll do much worse.

(1) Randy Orton vs. Dolph Ziggler
As the match began, Mathews asked Barrett about Orton eliminating him from the Rumble match. Barrett said Orton attacked him when he was distracted by seven other guys. I like the change-up as far as the interview with Barrett and Mathews here – tells me they’re at least trying to change things up to make the show feel fresh. Back-and-forth early on as Cole asked Mathews to ask Barrett whether he has any regrets. Barrett said he regrets not following Orton down the stairs to beat on him even more. Cole tried to spin Ziggler’s performance last night as a positive. Ziggler dropkicked Orton in the back of the head and they went to break at 2:14.

[Commercial Break]

Back at 5:47 of the match. Orton got to his feet with Ziggler having a rear chin-lock on him. Cover in the corner by Ziggler for two. Barrett said he proved he was a better man by throwing Orton down the stairs. Weird sequence where Orton looked to be going for an uppercut or an RKO, but Ziggler backed away and dropkicked Orton. Neck-breaker by Ziggler, then a few sit-ups. He went to the top rope, but Orton tripped him, crotching Ziggler. Superplex off the top rope by Orton, cover for two. Orton began his comeback and worked in his powerslam. Rope-assisted DDT (wish they’d give that a name), but Ziggler countered and went for a Sleeper. Orton got out, rolled Ziggler up in the corner for two, then Ziggler hit the fameasser for two. Orton clotheslined Ziggler to ringside, where Orton went out and tossed him into the barricade. Back in the ring, Orton planted Ziggler with his vintage DDT. He set up for the RKO and hit. The pin was academic.

Winner: Orton, at 11:16. Nice match, somewhat surprising clean finish. Not a great week for Ziggler.

- CM Punk vs. Dolph Ziggler is still to come tonight.

- And, another inductee for the 2012 Hall-of-Fame will be announced.

[Commercial Break]

- Wrestlemania: 62 days away!

- They showed the exterior of the arena in Kansas City.

- Stills of Cena vs. Kane from last night aired, and the post-match.

- Johnny Ace was shaking hands with production folks backstage and came upon William Regal. He asked Regal how his son was doing. Regal said they were daughters…conjoined twins. “Fifth grade is a tough grade,” said Ace as Regal looked forlorn at the mention. He admitted keeping them locked in the attic. Ace kept walking and said hi to Curt Hawkins, then continued on course.

[Commercial Break]

- The Funkettes were heard over the PA, and disco ball was shown over the ring. That can only mean one thing…

(2) Tyler Reks vs. Brodus Clay
Lawler made the “Funkasaurus-T. Reks” connection. Take-down by Brodus, who then ran into a big boot from Reks. Dropkick, then he got Clay down to one knee. Clay shook off the offense and landed a belly-to-belly. Forearm from behind, then the “what the funk?” finish.

Winner: Clay, at 1:03. Hey, Reks broke a minute! He deserves a push!

- A graphic showed Ace and Triple H face to face, with the caption, “will HHH fire Laurinaitis?”

- Punk and Bryan were in the locker room and Punk told Bryan the fans don’t see him as a role model. He said people probably don’t even know what a vegan is, so Bryan explained it. Bryan said people probably don’t know what straight edge is either, so Punk explained it but said he doesn’t claim to be a role model – he’s just the best wrestler in the world. It’s champion vs. champion next.

[Commercial Break]

- Lawler acknowledged Switchfoot for “Dark Horses,” the Royal Rumble theme.

- Cole plugged “the award-winning” for complete Royal Rumble coverage.

(3) CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan – Champion vs. Champion Match
The two men shook hands before the match. Collar-and-elbow tie-up led to a side headlock by Punk, then a shoulder knock-down. Leapfrog, followed by a dropkick from Bryan. Bryan hooked his legs in for a surfboard, but when he couldn’t get Punk’s arms, just stopped on the back of Punk’s knees. Cole said Bryan’s opponents in the Chamber match will be announced Friday on Smackdown. Cole admitted that Bryan does have some good qualities and even softened his anti-vegan stance. European uppercut by Bryan, but Punk back-dropped Bryan to ringside. Double axe-handle off the apron by Punk. Punk and Bryan slugged it out with European uppercuts at ringside. Bryan tossed Punk into the announcer’s bay, and Punk made it into the match at the nine-count by referee Scott Armstrong. Suplex by Punk to break out of a side headlock. Springboard clothesline by Punk for a two-count. Back-breaker and another pin attempt. Bryan whiffed on a running dropkick in the corner and Punk went into a rest-hold. Bryan hit the ropes and the men collided in the middle of the ring, each trying a cross-body. They tried to recover as the show went to break 6:00 into the contest.

[Commercial Break]

The show returned at 9:13 of the match. Bryan was working on the arm of Punk after dropkicking it during the break. Bryan stepped on the arm, separating it from the body. Even the crowd let out an “ohhhh” for that one. Bryan was crotched on the top rope and Punk let out a “best in the world!” before giving Bryan a hurricanrana. “CM Punk” chant. Punk was on a roll, with kicks and a neck-breaker. Running knee to the face, then a bulldog, switching to the good arm to do it. He signaled for the GTS, but Bryan squirmed out and went to ringside. Baseball slide by Punk, but he tried a suicide dive and Bryan laid him out with a forearm. Top rope missile dropkick by Bryan for a near-fall at 12:08. Kicks by Bryan, but a roll-up by Punk for two. Hurricanrana by Bryan turned into a roll-up by Punk for two. Kick to the head of Bryan for a very near-fall. Crowd really into it now. Bryan set Punk on the top rope but Punk headbutted him down. He almost fell off, but managed to steady himself enough to land the elbowdrop for two. Up for the GTS went Bryan, but a crucifix roll-up got him two. LeBell Lock attempt but it was a no-go. Bryan was catapulted into the corner and Punk hit him with a straight kick to the head. Bryan laid on the apron when Chris Jericho came out. He pulled Bryan out of the ring and tossed him aside, then entered the ring and gave CM Punk a Codebreaker.

Winner: Bryan, via disqualification, at 15:05. Great, great match. Don’t know what else I can say. Surprised they gave them this much time.

Jericho gave a sly smile while looking at the ring from the stage. The announcers were dumbfounded as to why Jericho would get involved.

- The announcers introduced the next Hall-of-Fame inductee: Mike Tyson, into the celebrity wing of the H.O.F. Wait, so TMZ “broke” this news earlier in the day? How did they get it before

- R-Truth came to the ring. We’ll find out why, next.

[Commercial Break]

- R-Truth joined the announcers for the next match. After Kofi Kingston came out for his match, Miz did the same, but with a mic. Miz made fun of Kofi doing a handstand last night, then bragged about lasting longer than anyone in the Rumble match. He promised to win the Raw Chamber match and headline Wrestlemania again.

(4) Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz
Miz went after Kofi with forearms to the face as Cole talked about the upcoming Chamber match being Truth’s third. Kneelift by Miz, who then took time to stare at Truth. “He looks so angry!” opined Truth. Small package by Kofi, then a clothesline by Miz. Corner clothesline, then after another two-count, Miz kept Kofi down on the mat. Kofi tried to come back and Miz got another near-fall. Miz played to the crowd and Kofi hit the flip kick in the corner. Kingston to the top for a high cross-body. The announcers kept talking with Truth about Little Jimmy. SOS countered by Miz, then a few more counters amongst the two. Kingston’s Trouble In Paradise caught Miz flush in the side of the face.

Winner: Kingston, at 4:14. Surprising finish, but the right one, in my opinion.

Post-match, they showed stills of Kingston in his handstand.

- Johnny Ace was backstage on his phone as David Otunga walked up. Ace said he was getting anxious and Otunga told him not to worry – he’s done everything to help influence the decision. Ace asked Otunga if he was after his job, but Otunga said he was content with his current position. Otunga wished him luck and walked off.

[Commercial Break]

- The video package from last night on The Rock aired. Sneaky WWE, basically making this an ad for “The Journey 2” as well.

- Up next, Eve Torres challenges for the Divas Title against Beth Phoenix.

[Commercial Break]

- Cole plugged the debut of WWE’s new YouTube channel on Wednesday. Hey, remember the WWE Network?

(5) Eve Torres vs. Beth Phoenix – Divas Championship Match
Eve went after Beth aggressively to start. Beth clotheslined her out of the corenr and set her up for the Glam Slam. She hit, and just like that, it was over.

Winner: Phoenix, at :30. Wait, is this the main event?

Kane’s music played and he showed up on the TitanTron. He asked how it feels to know that everything that happened to Zack Ryder could’ve been avoided had John Cena embraced the hate. He accused of Cena looking past him and to the Rock. Kane said Cena can’t beat him and he can’t beat the Rock. He said he’d continue to assault Ryder until Cena embraces the hate, and tonight, he’s going to use Eve as the conduit to pass the message along. His fireworks then went off and Eve stared at the entranceway. He showed up behind her in front of the announcers instead. John Cena ran out (as his music played!) and the two men brawled while Eve exited the ring. The brawl wen to ringside as Cena slammed Kane’s head into the ring steps. Where are the officials to break this up? Cena smiled and used the stairs on Kane. Cena got a mic and pounded Kane in the head with it. Cena smiled as he prepared to put Kane through the announce table with the AA, but Kane escaped through the crowd. They replayed Cena’s dominating attack as his music played with him in the ring. Speaking of Cena, he’s not in the Chamber match…I’m assuming he’ll fight Kane again at the PPV, but what would the storyline reason be for leaving him out?

- Johnny Ace was walking backstage. He passed Kelly Kelly and Alicia Fox, who laughed as he passed them.

[Commercial Break]

- Johnny Ace was once again introduced to the crowd. He didn’t look too confident while walking to the ring, and the crowd began to chant the “goodbye” song. Ace said he’s been looking forward to this all week and wanted to take this opportunity to say a few things. He said he’s not nervous because he knows every fan has appreciated what he’s done on Raw. He said the facts are in the numbers: Raw ratings are up from a year ago. Ace said during employee reviews, employees have to give themselves a self-assessment from 0-5. Ace said he gave himself a lot of fives. He talked about all the subjects he gave himself a “5” in. Right at 11:00 EST, Triple H’s music hit.

Hunter walked out in a suit. He told Ace to forget about performance assessment and all that other stuff. Hunter reminded Ace that he backstabbed him to get the job. He called Ace “spineless” and “gutless.” He said Ace was worse than anyone else in this position, because he used his power to make himself a star, something he wasn’t as a wrestler. Ace said he respects Hunter and respects his opinion, but he did a lot of good things for Raw. Hunter said Ace has personally involved himself in a lot of things he shouldn’t have. Hunter said that when Vince ran Raw, he let personal decisions cloud his judgment, and had to be replaced. Same with him. And Ace. Ace begged Hunter not to do this and said he’d do anything to save his job. Hunter stuck on that point and said it’s very broad. He said he could make Ace take the mic and apologize to the WWE Universe and if they’re willing to accept that apology, he’d be willing to reconsider. Ace said Hunter has shown him errors of his ways. Lots of heat for this, constant booing as Ace talked. Ace said to err is human, to forgive is divine. He apologized to the fans for mistakes he’s made and apologized if he offended anyone.

Hunter asked what the fans thought and they booed. Hunter said he couldn’t hear Ace over the booing, but his lips were moving, so he must’ve been lying. Hunter said maybe he’d give Ace the opportunity to be a WWE Superstar, by making a gauntlet match with every WWE Superstar who wants a shot at Ace. Hunter allowed Ace to skate on that, but came up with a good one. He said when Vince was in charge and needed to see where an employee’s loyalty lies, he would allow that person to become a member of a certain club. “Kiss his ass” chant started up, but it sounded like it was mixed with another. Ace said he doesn’t have to prove his loyalty. Ace took out his lip balm, applied some, and got down on his knees. He even puckered up with his eyes closed before Hunter got in position. “You’re really going to do it, aren’t you, you freak?” Hunter said he wouldn’t let Ace put his lips anywhere near him. Trips said he came out to do what needs to be done. He said the Board sees that he’s put his personal problems behind him and have allowed him to come back to run Raw whenever he wants. Hunter put his arm around Ace and said it warms his heart to wish Ace well in all….*GONG*. Yup, the Undertaker’s gong and music hit, and the arena went dark before Triple H could finish. Undertaker walked out….slowly.

He entered the ring. Expect some sign pointing here. Taker circled Hunter but their eyes were locked on each other. Big pop for Taker after his music ended. “Taker” chant. So, can Hunter fire Ace off air, since he was just about to anyway? The two stood face-to-face, then Taker raised his glare to the Wrestlemania sign and back to Hunter. He did the throat-slash gesture. Taker again looked at the sign – Hunter’s back was to it. Eyes went back to Hunter. Hunter seemed a tad frazzled, patted Taker on the shoulder, then left the ring. Hunter walked to the back as Taker looked at the sign again, then to the entranceway. The bell tolled as the camera stayed on Taker to end things. Great Raw!

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Big Bad

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
Dammit, we're going to have to sit through Undertaker/HHH again.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." --- Bart Giamatti, on baseball
It's False

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.32
    Originally posted by geemoney
    So, can Hunter fire Ace off air, since he was just about to anyway?

That would make too much sense.

Undertaker's return seems oddly timed. It's a coincidence I'm sure, but why come back in the middle of a presumed Laurinaitis firing? Regardless of that silliness, I was with that segment up until Hunter walked out, seemingly not wanting to go again. Is anybody buying that? The same Hunter that was willingly coming back for matches with Punk and Nash, while talking about how he put Undertaker out suddenly doesn't want to go anymore?

Now that Jericho's soaked in the pops, it's time to go back to what he does best. Those stares he was giving Punk looked more like the classic heel Jericho from the last couple of years.

Kofi's win over Miz was nice to see. He needs credibility going into the Chamber and that's as good a start as any.

If I'm not mistaking, I think Tyler Reks marks the official end of the jobber line. Unless they pull out some scrub like Johnny Curtis, I don't think Brodus has any jobbers left to plow through.

El Nastio

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They had to do something different, Triple H has lost twice now to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Taking that cool moment from last year and averting it is a masterstroke. Now we get to see Triple H transform into Corporation H, knowing what he must do to save his father-in-law's company.

Before he struggled, he was used to fighting GM and COO battles the way he did in the ring. But the mythical board has made him see the errors, he must fight it through the use of business. In the process, he may have lost something.

Corporation H's refusal to accept the challenge, the VERY CHALLENGE HE LAID OUT LAST YEAR, is a story that can play out for a couple of months. People can challenge him on it, people can say that he became what he fought against in DX. They can call him a suit, all sorts of things. The Undertaker can proceed on a wrath of terror where Corporation H's only choice is to step out and take control.

A brilliant move, I love it. Corporation H is a brilliant concept leading up the Road to Wrestlemania.

Oh, Bryan vs Punk was great.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Undertaker should've waited until after Ace got fired before he wigged out. He only gave him another week extension. (and other jokes about Taker's toupee)

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.77
Super show. A Raw super show.

Punk/Bryan was better than everything at the Rumble combined. Punk repeatedly calling himself the best wrestler in the world tonight seems pertinent w/r/t being attacked by Jericho.

    Originally posted by El Nastio
    Taking that cool moment from last year and averting it is a masterstroke.

I like it. Shawn Michaels will change his mind. "And I will referee."
    Originally posted by It's False
    If I'm not mistaking, I think Tyler Reks marks the official end of the jobber line.

I think Brodus was just out to funk up everybody in Reks' cartoon, saving the ringleader for last. He's not a fan.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.91

Not saying we go back to Russo's 25 title changes a year, but there's GOT to be a happy medium.

-Jericho has been back a month and is just now showing his motivations (but they'll probably milk the full explanation another month).

-And God forbid we put the final nail in the coffin to Johnny L. Because I'm sure it'll take until Wrestlemania to tie up that.

-Brodus is still doing squash matches a month in.

The Raw after the Rumble is usually one of the best of the year but no major shakeups except Taker who was a given, it was just a matter of when.

That said, Punk/Bryan was excellent.

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Danial Bryan was awesome tonight. Bryan vs Punk was a great match.

There's not much worse than a Helmsley comedy show/promo/burial job/getting myself over on the mic never ending segment. Undertaker returning in a somewhat forced spot doesn't make me feel any better about the ten plus minutes I had to sit through to get to where we are now.


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I don't really understand the HHH/UT story. Undertaker's beat him at WrestleMania. Twice. "I challenge you to lose to me a third time, because I have to prove I can beat you three times." What?

We're setting up HHH as the reluctant underdog and I think the only time it's appropriate to do that is if HHH is going to win. It certainly doesn't seem like it's set up for HHH to be putting his career on the line, which is really the only way to raise the stakes (which they should do, ala HBK).

I really wish it were Bryan/Punk in a unification match at WrestleMania, because that was great stuff. I still like that it looks to be going in the direction of Jericho/Punk, though, as those two will play well off each other.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by It's False
    Undertaker's return seems oddly timed. It's a coincidence I'm sure, but why come back in the middle of a presumed Laurinaitis firing?
This whole time...could Laurinaitis have been texting Undertaker?


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.77
BTW I don't think Undertaker wanted to save Johnny's job, he just wanted to stop HHH from being in charge again since he remembered how bad Raw was in the fall.

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I don't really understand the HHH/UT story. Undertaker's beat him at WrestleMania. Twice. "I challenge you to lose to me a third time, because I have to prove I can beat you three times." What?

Well, HHH beat him into oblivion last year. Then at the Slammys he said the streak was over because he ended the Undertaker. Taker got his hand raised but HHH was the only one who walked out. UT's like, there still ain't no grave that can hold my body down.

Hopefully there are some more twists and turns to lead to HHH's career on the line, because that should be the established toll for streak rematches. (And because yay, no more HHH.) I think some melodrama with Michaels could get it there pretty naturally, especially if HHH frames this as the last unfinished business of his wrestling career.

    Shawn Michaels will change his mind. "And I will referee."

    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    Not saying we go back to Russo's 25 title changes a year, but there's GOT to be a happy medium.

I think this is the happy medium, between the usual ADD pace of disposable angles 9 months out of the year and the syndicated TV days when nothing happened for ages until two wrestlers bumped while passing in the aisle. This stuff still has to peak six weeks from now.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.84
Very good Raw tonight. No way they are going to replace Johnny Ace now that he is drawing so much good heel heat now.

And poor Dolph, from being #1 contender to eating a finisher from a woman, to jobbing clean to Randy Orton.

Daniel Bryan vs Punk was excellent and the ending, while disappointing, was the right ending.

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.37
    Originally posted by shawnpatrick
    And poor Dolph, from being #1 contender to eating a finisher from a woman, to jobbing clean to Randy Orton.

I thought I was the only one to notice that. Everyone's talking about how poorly Ryder's getting used getting squashed by Kane but to me, Ziggler's getting worse treatment. He looked like a total jobber in the match against Punk, ate Kharma's finisher (which wasn't even sold as anything special by the announcement crew), and got pinned rather easily by Orton. It makes me wonder who he pissed off backstage and it makes me concerned because all the goodwill he got in the last year in improving as a wrestler may be in danger of being flushed away if they continue to treat him as a total joke like they have for about the last 24 hours.

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Everyone has this Undi/HHH thing all wrong. Hunter walks out because he knows how broken down Taker is after the last WM... how he pretty much eradicated him last year despite the loss. Hunter believes in his mind that one more match would be suicide for Taker, and he doesn't want to be THAT guy (retiring/permanently putting Taker on the shelf is one thing, completely destroying 'the man' is another). It's the usually callous and heartless 'cerebral assassin' showing a bit of compassion for a change. I like it.

Of course, Taker can call him out on it by saying it's all inflated ego and that Hunter thinks too highly of himself in the ring, etc, etc. Boom. You've got another WM match.
El Nastio

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
    Originally posted by Super 7-Up
    Everyone has this Undi/HHH thing all wrong. Hunter walks out because he knows how broken down Taker is after the last WM... how he pretty much eradicated him last year despite the loss. Hunter believes in his mind that one more match would be suicide for Taker, and he doesn't want to be THAT guy (retiring/permanently putting Taker on the shelf is one thing, completely destroying 'the man' is another). It's the usually callous and heartless 'cerebral assassin' showing a bit of compassion for a change. I like it.

I'm partial to Corporation H, but your idea has some merit.
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#16 Posted on
Good thing the production crew had Taker's entrance music and pyro ready in case he just happened to come back.

Also, I see this as kind of a twist on the traditional "streak challenge" storyline. Usually someone challenges the Undertaker directly, but this time it looks like he's going to be the one who has to convince someone to go against him.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.82
I think UT interrupting the HHH/Ace pow-wow has some potential here. If Hunter uses his status to duck a third match with Taker, despite the fans clamouring for it, Big Johnny has a ready-made argument against HHH's judgement as the man in charge.

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
    Originally posted by jerichofan717
    Good thing the production crew had Taker's entrance music and pyro ready in case he just happened to come back.

Same with John Cena running in to make the save on Eve. It would have come off so much cooler and more spontaneous if he just ran down the ramp without the 2.5 second blip of his theme.

Punk/Bryan was really, really enjoyable.

This whole Laurenitis thing hasn't worked for me- was hoping he'd be gone. He hasn't really been heelish enough to warrant all the heel heat.

Cena has now "embraced the hate" against Swagger and Kane. what?

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.08
A lot of good to great on Raw mainly from Bryan and Punk. I was also hoping we would see the end of Johnny Ace. Instead of HHH in charge, we go with Foley with Ziggler digging at him til Mania. Now, we go with Taker presumably pestering HHH til Mania. I am not a big fan of Taker/HHH, but to me that pales in comparison to the hate I have for the idea of HHH/Punk. Now, if all goes well we get Jericho/Punk for Mania which to me is still better than HHH/Punk and even Taker/Jericho. Taker stopping Johnny's firing probably saved Mania. I still don't know how they are going to explain Ace having a job, but we never found out who the Mysterious Raw GM was anyway. Like CRZ's Ace texting Taker idea.

Cena's beat down of Kane needed to be more. What I don't know. I do wish Kane would have got the upper hand instead of Cena. I am not sure what they are trying to do with Cena right now, the fans were actually behind him even with his laughing and acting all happy after the beating. Maybe thats part of the point is to have an aggressive happy Cena going into the Chamber, but who knows.

Dolph has beaten the world champ three times and had a good match with Orton even if he lost clean. If anything he goes to MITB and wins or has a high profile match with Foley. Miz will get his win back too. A heel has a bad week and all of the sudden he is being depushed. Relax.

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.21
So was Taker wearing a wig or not? Is he going the Goldust route?

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