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TONIGHT: How will Johnny Ace react to CM Punk retaining the WWE Championship last night at TLC? What will see from Daniel Bryan in his first night as World Champion? Will we hear from Kane after his attack on John Cena last week? What will be the newest reveal in the mystery videos we’ve been seeing the past several weeks?


- WWE Open.

- RAW Open (now with 100% more Kane!).

- A drumroll inside the arena interrupted the Raw theme. Everything went dark, including the TitanTron. Finally, we heard CM Punk say “Live from Philadelphia, the showbiz capital of this state, it’s Monday Night Raw!” Punk, with the drumroll continuing and not in front of the crowd, teased whether Alberto Del Rio, Miz, or the best wrestler in the World won last night. He announced that he was the winner, and Cult of Personality began to play and he walked out. Punk took a lap with the WWE Title over his head in the ring. Fans were cheering, but then they panned the crowd and hardly anyone was standing.

Punk discussed the match, including Ricardo Rodriguez’s big spot, and said he managed to retain the WWE Title. “CM Punk” chant. Punk next wanted to talk about the US Title match. Punk gave the drumroll treatment to this match too, putting Dolph Ziggler and Zack Ryder’s faces on the TitanTron just like he did for the WWE Title match. Punk announced Ryder as the winner and then the new US Champion came out. Punk said he saved the biggest for last, and he does mean the biggest. He talked about the Chairs Match for the World Title. He did the drumroll for Henry vs. Show, but said it was Show at first; then, the unthinkable happened….he said it does him proud to say that it was Daniel Bryan. Bryan walked to the ring with the World Title around his waist.

The two former ROH stars embraced in the ring. “Daniel Bryan” chant from the Philly crowd, but it wasn’t overwhelming. Punk said if any city would appreciate this scene, it would be Philadelphia, a city so rich in pro wrestling history. “ECW” chant. Vince McMahon must be proud. Punk said he says what he wants and has no filter between himself and his mouth. But he said it’s not about him, but about Bryan and Ryder, two guys who worked their way up from the bottom. He said they broke their backs for the WWE Universe, and they have brought him to that level. He said he wants to hear from the two new champions. Ryder was first.

Ryder said he had to call his dad this morning to ask him if he was really US Champ. And his dad said, “woo woo woo, you know it.” Bryan said people never expected him to get to WWE, and there’s people like Michael Cole (boos) who don’t think he should be here. Bryan said not only is he here but he’s the World Heavyweight Champion. Bryan was going to continue, but Miz walked out on stage with no music and no mic. He stared at those in the ring. Dolph Ziggler came out next and did the same…as did Alberto Del Rio. That looked a bit gimmicky, but it was different, so I’m okay with it. The heels went to the ring to attack, but they couldn’t make it in, as the faces had them out-flanked. As the heels regrouped, Ryder flipped onto Ziggler. Del Rio and Miz threw Ryder into the steps. The faces chased the heels up the ramp, but Johnny Ace walked out and told them to cool it. Ace decided that tonight’s main event will be a six-man tag featuring Miz, Ziggler and Del Rio taking on Bryan, Punk and Ryder. Ace said it was his Christmas present to the WWE Universe and wished everyone Happy Holidays. You want new blood in WWE? You certainly got it here.

- Jerry “The King” Lawler and Michael Cole reacted to what just happened. Cole said we’ll see footage of what happened after Raw went off the air last night. They showed clips of Kane’s attack along with a graphic saying “John Cena speaks out.”

- In a split-screen, Randy Orton and Wade Barrett were walking. They square off one-on-one next. At least they did the Tables match on PPV and the singles match for free, and not the other way around.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler thanked Kasbian for supplying the official TLC theme.

(1) Randy Orton vs. Wade Barrett
Barrett began the match with body shots to Orton in the corner. Orton found the mark with a European uppercut and hammered away on Barrett with right hands. Dropkick by Orton. The match spilled to ringside, where Barrett suplexed Orton ribs-first into the barricade. Boot to the skull, then Barrett rolled back into the ring. They went to break at 2:12 of the match.

[Commercial Break]

Back at 5:15. Barrett caught a charging Orton with a boot. Knees to the face by Barrett as Orton was tangled in the ropes, then a running kick sent Orton back outside. Into a rear chin-lock back in the ring. Orton dodged Wasteland, and hung Barrett up for his patented DDT. Barrett prevented any further damage by applying a thumb to the eye, drawing a disqualification.

Winner: Orton, via DQ, at 8:00. Decent enough match I suppose. No surprise we didn’t get a clean finish.

Barrett continued his barrage after the match, giving Orton a side slam (known as the Winds of Change). Barrett brought a table into the ring as Cole went on about Barrett “making a statement.” He sounds like Booker T. now. Barrett hoisted Orton up in Wasteland, and put him through the table. Lawler said Barrett’s actions could come back to haunt him. They replayed Barrett’s attack as referees tended to Orton.

-Cole and Lawler were shown on-camera again, this time discussing Kevin Nash vs. Triple H from last night. They showed stills from the match. Cole said WWE doctors have told him that Nash suffered a nasal fracture among other contusions and he’ll be out at least six weeks. Lawler said he wouldn’t be surprised if we never see him again.

-Alicia Fox and Beth Phoenix were walking backstage in a split-screen. They square off next.

[Commercial Break]

-The exterior of Philadelphia was shown.

(2) Beth Phoenix vs. Alicia Fox
Wrist-lock broken by Fox, who then hopped into Phoenix’s arms for a sidewalk slam. Fox flipped out of a suplex but lost her balance, causing Beth to have to stand there and act dazed while Beth re-grouped. Reverse DDT then a flip leg-drop for the win.

Winner: Fox, at :46. What does it say that the champion loses in 45 seconds? Somehow, this was still awful despite going less than a minute.

Fox got the mic and wished everyone a Foxy holiday. Philly crowd was in no mood to cheer her after she botched one of her three moves in the match.

-The announcers plugged the six-man main event.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole implored viewers to vote for The Rock for Badass of the Year at Popwatch.EW.com.

(3) Sheamus vs. Jinder Mahal
During Sheamus’ entrance, they showed Sheamus beating Jinder Mahal on Smackdown from Friday. Mahal had a turban on for good measure and worked the stick on his way to the ring. He said Sheamus has no class and no honor, and it’s about time someone put him in his place. Mahal went after Sheamus but missed wildly with a punch that Sheamus was supposed to block, but it didn’t even come close. Take-down by Mahal then a running high knee. Sheamus fought back with a short-arm clothesline. He went to the top and came off, but Mahal moved out of the way. Sheamus rolled through and delivered the Irish Curse back-breaker. Celtic Cross finished things.

Winner: Sheamus, at 1:54. I noticed this on Smackdown but I was surprised to see that Mahal was just about as tall (if not as tall) as Sheamus.

-Up next, John Cena speaks out about Kane’s attack from last week.

[Commercial Break]

-John Cena came out. He did his little aside to the camera, sarcastically saying Philly’s favorite son has returned. Cena did a lot of pausing before speaking, but no real chants picked up. He said what he’s about to say will be shocking: Apparently, there are people out there who don’t like him. He said some of those people are in the arena. He mentioned Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson said he’s ready for April 1st. Cena said there’s a monster who’s on the loose, one who gets edgy around the holidays or when going to the dentist. Cena said he thinks he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but he wants to find out for sure. He told Kane that if last week was no accident, then they have business. He suggested handling the business now. Instead, Mark Henry limped out.

Henry said the business that Cena needs to be concerned about is that he had Cena laying in the middle of the ring, and if it weren’t for Kane, Cena would be the newest member of the Hall of Pain. Henry said Cena’s monologue is full of jokes. “Sexual chocolate” chant by the fans, and I think even King chuckled. Henry said he lost his World Title last night, so he’s out to address his injuries and why he lost. He told Cena to get out of his face, as he’s all the business Cena needs to be worried about. Cena got in the ready position, but fireworks went off and Kane’s theme played. The big man walked onto the stage. The outer mask is back.

Kane walked around the ring, stalking Henry. Henry pointed to his leg and said he was hurt right now. Kane slowly turned his head toward the ring and Cena. He got up on the apron as Henry left ringside. The outer mask came off and Kane stared at Cena. He stepped over the top rope, but Cena charged at Kane. He clotheslined Kane over the top rope. Kane landed on his feet and pulled Cena out, throwing him over the announce table. Looked like an uncomfortable landing on the chairs for Cena. The assault continued as Kane put his gloved hand over Cena’s mouth and just pressed down, cutting off the breath of Cena. Cena even looked like he was bleeding a little from the mouth. Kane ripped Cena’s shirt off and took it with him as a souvenir. Cena barely even sold suffocation, as he was sitting up on the table looking at Kane as Kane walked up the ramp.

[Commercial Break]

-The Liberty Bell was shown.

-They replayed the Kane attack on Cena from the previous segment.

(4) Epico & Primo vs. The Usos
The Usos did their Samoan war dance on the stage before coming to the ring. I believe it was referred to as a Polynesian dance on Smackdown. Fast-paced action to start. The cousins Colon made quick tags. Rosa Mendes was out with Epico and Primo. Evan Bourne and Kofi Kingston were shown watching this match backstage. Rear chinlock by Epico. Drop toe-hold to prevent one of the Usos from making the tag. He kicked Epico away though and made the tag at 2:12. Bubba Bomb on Epico, then a running butt splash. Cover got two, with the pin broken up by Primo. Primo low-bridged the other Uso, so the legal Uso superkicked him. Back-stabber by Epico for the win.

Winners: Primo and Epico, at 2:54. Sad that the crowd couldn’t have cared less, but they’ve got to be conditioned to care about tag teams again, and it could take a while.

-Cole sent it to the Royal Rumble video with Santino as the man with the crystal ball.

-Josh Mathews was backstage with Cody Rhodes, who called the Santino video “ridiculous,” much like Booker thinking he could beat him is “ridiculous.” He said if anyone can see into the future, they’d see his face emerging…but he was distracted before he could finish. Santino was at his side and Santino offered him a gift before their match. It was in a wicker basket, and it turned out to be Santino’s Christmas Cobra. Cody was nonplussed.

[Commercial Break]

(5) Santino Marella vs. Cody Rhodes
Rhodes with a forearm, then he cornered Santino and blatantly choked him. Side Russian leg-sweep. He slammed Santino’s Cobra hand into the mat. Marella got to his feet, did a split and hip-tossed Rhodes. Shot to the mid-section by Santino, then he set up the Cobra. Cody picked him up and felled him with the Alabama Slam for the win.

Winner: Rhodes, at 1:24. I like when wrestlers use non-finishers as finishing moves for a change-of-pace. Makes them mean more in future matches.

-They aired the end of Tribute to the Troops, where Cena gave a speech to the Troops with the rest of the roster standing on the stage. They also showed some of Nickelback’s performance on the show.

-Another plug for the six-man tag aired.

[Commercial Break]

-The Bellas were arguing backstage as Johnny Ace and David Otunga looked on. They stopped long enough to complain about how Teddy Long talked to them last night at TLC and then they started arguing again. Ace said the Board is cognizant of the complaints and are watching Long. Will Ace threaten to put Long on probation again? The Bellas thanked Ace and kissed him, then left. Ace had lipstick on his face. Vickie Guerrero ran in complaining about Dolph Ziggler losing the title last night. Hornswoggle came in out of nowhere and ended up kissing Vickie, leaving her screaming.

-Cole name-dropped people online who are talking about TLC, and they showed stills of Ryder, Bryan, and Punk celebrating their title wins last night.

-They showed Ryder’s dad’s reaction to his US Title win last night, which was fantastic by the way. Then they showed a WWE.com video of Ryder’s dad being interviewed.

-Big Show was interviewed backstage by Josh Mathews. Mathews asked Show how he felt about Bryan cashing in the MITB contract against him last night. Show was dejected, saying he had the title right in his hands. He was at a loss for words and said it was his fault, since he encouraged Bryan to not wait ‘til Mania to cash in the briefcase. Show gave “the little guy” credit and said he’s living his dream. Mathews prodded Show and said he’s not THIS nice. He said Show has the shortest World Title reign in history, a record that’s not likely to be broken. Show stared a hole through Mathews, then did some neck curls and said he was okay. Then he walked off.

-The Miz, Dolph Ziggler (with Vickie) and Alberto Del Rio (without Ricardo Rodriguez) made their entrances for the main event. It’s next….but actually, before Cole could send it to break, we got the latest mystery video. The girl says she can’t help the boy anymore. “Prophetless.”

[Commercial Break]

-Zack Ryder, Daniel Bryan and CM Punk entered the arena, in that order. Ryder came through the crowd. Bryan and Punk did the same. Michael Cole, who has been tolerable tonight, went off on all the champions in the ring.

(6) The Miz & Dolph Ziggler & Alberto Del Rio vs. Zack Ryder & Daniel Bryan & CM Punk
Punk with a shoulder tackle then a hip-toss. Miz was able to tag Ziggler, who ran right into a drop toe-hold by Bryan. Bryan stomped on Ziggler’s calves. Tag to Ryder and a double hip-toss on Ziggler. Del Rio tried to interfere, but he flew right through the middle rope. Miz was sent out too. Ryder flipped onto Miz and Del Rio and Bryan took out Ziggler. Punk then hit a cross-body onto Miz and Del Rio. The faces celebrated in the ring as they went to break at 1:57.

[Commercial Break]

The show returned with the heels, specifically Miz, in control around the 5:00 mark. Ziggler held Bryan down with a side headlock. Bryan elbowed out of it, but Ziggler clotheslined him down. Cover got two at 6:36. The heels continued to dominate Bryan. Tilt-a-whirl back-breaker for two by Del Rio. Bryan finally made the tag to Ryder at 8:43. Broski Boot found the mark, but Ziggler battled out of a pin. Nice dropkick and both men were down. Miz came in and knee-lifted Ryder for two. Del Rio got launched over the top by Ryder, who crawled to make a tag. Del Rio made it back in and tagged Miz, but Punk picked up the hot tag for the faces. Punk perched himself on the top rope and connected on the Savage elbowdrop. Cover got two at 11:52. Anaconda Vice locked in, but Ziggler flew in to break it up. Ryder pulled Ziggler out and clotheslined him. Del Rio and Bryan both made tags and Bryan landed a missile dropkick. Punk gave Miz the Go To Sleep and Del Rio knocked Punk out of the ring. He dodged a Bryan kicked and pushed him shoulder-first into the ring post. Bryan came back seconds later and hooked in the LeBell Lock. Del Rio tapped.

Winners: Bryan, Punk and Ryder, at 13:12.

The babyfaces celebrated with the crowd after the match. Punk stood on the announce desk and held the title over his head as the show closed.


(edited by geemoney on 19.12.11 2308)


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Missed the Main Event and most of the opening segment so that probably hurt my enjoyment of the show.I did find it funny how when Punk was talking about him and Bryan wrestling in Philly plenty he seemed to be looking to draw a ROH chant but drew a ECW chant instead. I don't think the show was rancid or anything like it was last week just boring. I can't believe we had a dq due to a thumb to the eye. Has that ever happened before? That was a terrible finish. The highlight of the show was Rosa doing a little dance. Last night they made Beth look pretty damn strong by going over Kelly Kelly only to job to the not over Alicia Fox in 35 seconds the next night. Was Natalya not available? I thought jobbing to Beth's next challenger was the template? Big Show cut a really good promo. Really hoping the video is for Jericho.





(edited by graves9 on 20.12.11 0032)
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I was there live, and the main event saved what was a filler show. For the life of me, I couldn't have told you who would have faced Primo and Epico since the tag champs were already on Superstars. Everyone was surprised to see the Uso's, and as someone who doesn't watch Smackdown anymore, I couldn't tell you if these guys were babyfaces. Obviously the crowd didn't know, so there was no reaction for any of it.

The Divas match was my bathroom/food/anything but watching the show. I enjoyed Santino's antics, but he has been so beaten down that again the crowd couldn't get into him as a threat to anybody.

Still, just the sight of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan (and Ryder I guess) standing in a WWE ring as champions was enough to get me to the show, and they helped me feel like I wasn't entirely ripped off at paying to see mostly boring wrestling.



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I was there too...here are some random live notes:

It was a pretty fun, "feel good" show in person. I don't know how much Cole dragged it down on TV, but especially the Punk/Bryan/Ryder contingent standing victorious to open and close the show.

Very little "filler," a surprising number of matches. We got Ted DiBiase vs. Dean Ambrose (aka Jon Moxley) as a dark match. I'm not really sure what his gimmick is but he reminded me of...a hungover, snotty Raven?

Maybe half the very top level was tarped off, yet they're already coming back for another RAW taping in exactly three months. Maybe the Rock is going to be announced as part of the show since it's just a few weeks before Mania?

I just don't get Beth losing in under a minute like that, or really anything they've been doing with any of the women lately...

One guy in the building started a "Let's go Primo!" chant, which led to a louder yet isolated "Primo sucks!" response... which was mostly the only response that match got.

The Titantron was on the fritz during Rhodes' entrance and kept showing Santino's video, with Cody's video around the "border" of the Tron not right either... I'm guessing they didn't show that on camera.

The "second main event" was announced as a change late in the show during a break to Kane vs. Cena, which was pretty much the Kane/Cena match you'd expect. Followed by a Merry Christmas and Thank You speech from Cena.

Tons of Punk shirts everywhere, with a good amount of Cenas and lots of Ryder merch...plenty of kids (and adults) wearing the bandanas and wigs (they should stay away from Mark Henry, so those wigs aren't split). A "We Want Ryder" chant broke out during the Superstars taping (Air Boom vs. Hawkins/Reks) and after the show, a big random "WOO WOO WOO!" chant in the concourse on the way out.



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    Originally posted by graves9
    Missed the Main Event and most of the opening segment so that probably hurt my enjoyment of the show.I did find it funny how when Punk was talking about him and Bryan wrestling in Philly plenty he seemed to be looking to draw a ROH chant but drew a ECW chant instead. I don't think the show was rancid or anything like it was last week just boring. I can't believe we had a dq due to a thumb to the eye. Has that ever happened before? That was a terrible finish. The highlight of the show was Rosa doing a little dance. Last night they made Beth look pretty damn strong by going over Kelly Kelly only to job to the not over Alicia Fox in 35 seconds the next night. Was Natalya not available? I thought jobbing to Beth's next challenger was the template? Big Show cut a really good promo. Really hoping the video is for Jericho.
    (edited by graves9 on 20.12.11 0032)


Wow, you didn't watch the opening and the end - this show was all about the opening and the end! If you would've seen that, you probably wouldn't have rated it as "boring". Check the missing parts out - they're great!
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Well, this is a nice change of pace! A different cast of characters on the top. Credit the E for not only focusing on these guys, but also for biting the bullet and taking Cena out of the main event picture for a little while.

The new (old?) Kane is starting to grow on me. That was a nice beatdown of Cena. Now Kane just needs a little mic time to work some more magic.

9 years! 9 years! 9 years! Have they hammered this home enough yet? 9 years! 9 years! 9 years! I don't think they've quite telegraphed Show's heel turn enough yet. 9 years! 9 years! 9 years!

And on that note, Show really should have knocked Matthews out on the spot. Show was taking the loss well and being a big person about it, but Matthews just kept goading him. Mentioning that he had the shortest title reign in history was just unnecessary and a dick move on Matthews' part.

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Cole was super over-the-top on this episode, but it actually kind of seemed to sort of work, since the three guys he was railing against all have belts, won their match and are clearly not the losers he's saying they are. It clearly defines Cole as an out-of-touch heel, which is a lot different than when he's laying it on DB and using complaints that people might interpret as valid criticism (boring, small, hypocrite, etc.) while DB does clean jobs.

Matthews hectoring Big Show was straight out of the "Mr. White, that's not wise!" playbook.

The increased mentioning of Rikishi being Papa Uso has to lead to him (maybe) being brought in for an angle of some kind.

It's legitimately heartwarming that Cody Rhodes is using his old tag team partner's finisher.

I hope you all have a foxy holiday.
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The image of Ryder, Punk and Bryan standing tall during the opening and at the end pretty much made it better than 90% of the Raws of the last six years. I also thought the Philly crowd was just ok for them. I don't mind the ECW chant since well Punk debuted on the second WWE ECW PPV and was ECW Champion. And someone the ECW fans can relate to. Hoping for a ROH chant was a bit naive. I also thought Punk did a good job with the promo. Cole continues to ruin things and the wife asked if we could switch to Spanish during Raw.

The rest of the show was either just there or didn't make sense like the Divas' match. What the hell was the point of that? Cena gets bitched out by Kane who will then lose to Cena at the Rumble. I really wish they would have gone with Kane/Big Show than Cena/Kane, because we can all see the writing on the wall for that one. All in all, a good show with a good main event. My only concern is if ADR is ok.



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Kane/Cena - fresh and likely pretty good match, allows Big Show to do something infinitely more interesting with Bryan
Kane/Show - been done at least a dozen times in high-profile settings, always a bad match, leaves nothing for Cena and Bryan to do

This was like WrestleMania XX, but smaller and with Rob van Dam holding the US title and getting in on the hugging.
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I kind of feel bad for Alicia, she shows so much spunk and energy but somehow the crowd won't get behind her. Despite the usual little time the Divas match was good, I liked the Side Slam and the countering reverse DDT. Oh and I honestly think Beth looks a lot more credible without Natalya.
The main event seemed good, and I was quite surprised that Orton vs Barrett ended with a mere thumb in the eye :P



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The Usos never did recover after one of them got that DUI. I wonder if anyone else digs that little song and dance they do during their entrance, or if people are like me and just want them to shut the fuck up and hit the ring?

The squashing of Beth Phoenix has to be in response to her audibles during her match at TLC. I think a worst punishment than that will be her having to carry another inept diva through months worth of matches. Can't we just turn Natalya already and have Trish/Victoria level matches again? Hell A.J. and Kaitlyn have nothing to do on Superstars. At least AJ can work a match.

I've forgotten about the rest of the night with the exception of the Main Event. I'm really looking forward to the future with Bryan and Ryder, and I'm really hoping for a feud involving Punk and Miz. I've wanted that for a while as I know those two could tell a story leading all the way to Wrestlemania.
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Speaking of the new blood, Punk posted this image (img.photobucket.com) on his Twitter, and It. Is. Awesome.

I like Show's tension. Makes me very curious for SmackDown.

The Three AmiBros made for a fun angle-less main event, and that's just fine and dandy, sayeth Brock Lesnar. Next week, we'll get the challengers to the belts, I'm sure. Kinda hoping Alberto works with Ziggler so we can get prime Vickie/Ricardo interaction.

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Big ups to WWE not just for the booking but of the execution of the US and World Championships right now.

When was the last time people were so invested in the United States Title and who is the US Champion? During the Magnum TA/Nikita Koloff era? What a pop at TLC for the US Title change. Ryder played properly turns the US Title into "a people's championship", all due respect to #BootstoAsses.

As for Bryan, I thought Show's promo really sold it. People always complain the belts are meaningless, but Show wanted that title for 9 YEARS. He's perpetually on the verge of tears whenever he thinks about only having it for 45 seconds. That big gold belt is valuable. Monsters kill each other for it. Now they want to kill that little guy who owns it.

The WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion and United States Champion coming in through the crowd for the main event was a nice touch. The main event could have been billed as The Internet Smark Wanks vs. The Guys Vince Likes.



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Punk's pic is my new facebook profile. It really feels like a fresh breath of air in the company. Now, if they only would get more talented tag teams and female wrestlers. I am more shocked they didn't try to weasel the belt out of Bryan or have him eat the pin.



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I figured I'd come here there would be someone pissing & moaning about this show ... I just don't get it ... people are always clamoring for something new ... well folks, this was it ... one of the best shows I've seen in a while ... there was a definite freshness to the show ... I hope it lasts.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.91
-Mind boggling how much they are burying Beth, who should be a Kong level dominant champ.

-Daniel Bryan broke the 24 hour barrier!! Can he make it a week?? Speaking of Bryan, if Punk's character is all about causing radical change, he should challenge Bryan to a title for title match at Mania to prove the real "Best in the World".

-Since they turned him face, I've really dug Shaemus. Never liked him as a heel. I think he works a lot better as a monster face than he did as a whiny heel. I thin 2012 will see him become what WWE tried to force last year.

-"Kick some rocks and get out of my face." VINTAGE Henry.

-Still thinking Kane could be a face in all this. Cena called him out, he came out and went after Henry. But he didn't touch Cena until he attacked him.

-"Profitless" still thinking this has to be someone new and not Taker or Jericho.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    -Mind boggling how much they are burying Beth, who should be a Kong level dominant champ.


Maybe they're saving the idea of Kong-level dominance for when Kharma eventually comes back.

    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    -"Profitless" still thinking this has to be someone new and not Taker or Jericho.


It's actually "Prophetless". Big difference.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
They don't do mystery videos for new guys. There's no point in that - it doesn't get them over if you don't know who it's about, and the crowd are just disappointed when it's not Jericho/Batista/Ultimate Warrior who walks out.

I think that Beth match got cut short because of the beating her face took.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    When was the last time people were so invested in the United States Title and who is the US Champion? During the Magnum TA/Nikita Koloff era? What a pop at TLC for the US Title change. Ryder played properly turns the US Title into "a people's championship", all due respect to #BootstoAsses.


I posted something like this a few weeks ago, and I still believe 100% this is the case. They've built up this US title chase flawlessly. I've been a Broski for some time, and to see him win the title and looking fantastic in main events makes his long time fans excited. And not just that, but seeing all the new fans get into him too.

Any doubts about them squashing him shortly after the win were removed last night. They gave his title victory nearly equal billing and mentions as the other two titles, and they showed the post PPV interview with his dad.

Both he and Ziggler looked solid in the main event. I've liked Ziggler for some time too, so to see both wreslters grow and get something out of this feud is wonderful. I think now more so than ever they're really getting behind Ryder, and I would say that they might position him to be in the upper-mid card (which is where the US title holder should be, really).

But do you know who the under-the-radar MVP of the whole angle is? And possibly of Monday Nights?

The King.

Jerry Lawler last night showed me that he still has the A-game when the situation requires it. A night with two new champs, new changes, and the man laid it all out there. For every inane and troll comment that Cole made, Lawler corrected him. Remember at one point the King teamed with Ryder, and won a match with him. The fact that King steps up for Ryder shows continuity. And King always mentions "this young man is realizing his potential". I think once or twice per Ryder match that gets mentioned by the King, and I love it each time.

Jerry Lawler, seasoned pro. Hall of Famer. A legend, and not just in the WWE contract status sense. He's saying this kid has potential, which means four things:

1) Ryder still has a lot to learn.
2) Ryder is young, which has advantages and disadvantages.
3) Ryder will only get better, and when that happens look out.
4) Ryder is ALREADY better, and you best not underestimate him.

    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    As for Bryan, I thought Show's promo really sold it. People always complain the belts are meaningless, but Show wanted that title for 9 YEARS. He's perpetually on the verge of tears whenever he thinks about only having it for 45 seconds. That big gold belt is valuable. Monsters kill each other for it. Now they want to kill that little guy who owns it.


Agreed. I also liked the fact that Show admitted that he brought this on himself by encouraging Bryan to cash in before Wrestlemania. Matthew's comment about "shortest reign in history!" was insanely great, and by all appearances it looked like Matthews wasn't going to back down after asking the question.

Again, back to the King. Building up Bryan, explaining his logic. The King told it like it was And eventually, Cole descended into even turning against Punk by the end of the show.

    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion and United States Champion coming in through the crowd for the main event was a nice touch. The main event could have been billed as The Internet Smark Wanks vs. The Guys Vince Likes.


It's like a mini-faction with the three champs, and I love it.

I love everything about the way the three titles were booked, how they're booking it.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Punk's pic is my new facebook profile. It really feels like a fresh breath of air in the company. Now, if they only would get more talented tag teams and female wrestlers. I am more shocked they didn't try to weasel the belt out of Bryan or have him eat the pin.


I'm enjoying all of this while it lasts, and you're right; they could have had either Ryder or Bryan take the pin. Instead it was Bryan making Del Rio tap, which is an especially nice touch because Del Rio beat Bryan at least twice before.

I really, really hope all three keep the titles for next Monday.

In Chicago.

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