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#81 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
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#82 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
      Beth Phoenix, one of the strongest and toughest women in WWE history, has to whine, "Hunter, we're just girls." Really??


    Uh, she's a heel looking to get rid of the face authority figure. I think she was being a wee bit disingenuous with the "we're poor little girls" tone.


Brandon Stroud of With Leather/The Dugout fame said it better than me (with more words):


    the worst Worst I’ve given since I started this column goes to Beth for her talking point of “we’re… we’re GIRLS! Something might HAPPEN to us!” with all the WWE Divas standing beside her nodding. In one swoop the WWE managed to bury the Divas, womens wrestling, and possibly the last 4,000 years of female development. It was the pro wrestling equivalent of Malibu Stacy saying “don’t ask me, I’m just a girl.” It was almost that VERBATIM.

    And the worst part is that they never make it clear what she means. Do you mean the guys are going to hurt you? Was this not a problem when Stone Cold Steve Austin was offering Stacy a beer and Stunnering her for turning it down, or when Bubba Ray Dudley was powerbombing an old woman off the stage through a table, or when Trish Stratus was being made to strip and bark like a dog, or when two black guys stole Lita’s vibrator and sold it to the audience? Are they suggesting something worse? Is Beth Phoenix worried about getting raped? That’s horrible and not a joke, I am actually asking. They kept doing that “SOMETHING could happen… it COULD happen to us and I’m SCARED” thing that doesn’t translate to “Miz might show up and punch me”. You entered the Royal Rumble and eliminated the Great Khali, Beth, and now you’re worried about two fired guys who make apology YouTube videos?

    This was terrible on every level, and the people who greenlit it should be ashamed of themselves.


http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/10/the-best-and-worst-of-wwe-raw-103-a-blog-of-no-confidence/


(edited by Spiraling_Shape on 4.10.11 1948)


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#83 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I took Beth's comment to be nothing more than chicken-shit heeling, no different than Cody's mask or Lawler's broken leg from the '93 Summerslam.

CajunMan
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#84 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.96
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Punk is going off on twitter about the people who walked out. The word pussy was used. He is on a pretty good rant.


      Originally posted by CM Punk
      I think a lot of people are missing the point. Fans and coworkers alike. Walking out is a pussy move. There's a huge difference ...in what I did. I want change, and I can't change shit from my couch. I'm in the fox hole. I'm getting it done. I stayed to fight......and I'm fighting for change. You can protest, violently or peacefully without actually showing up. Walking out isn't a solution......at least not one that I've ever seen work. Hold 'em up. Make them change. Don't just walk out, or lay down. Fight. This goes for fans......as well. Bored? Don't like @johncena ? Want more @ZackRyder ? Show up and be heard. Don't be a pussy and just tweet about it. I want change, and I'll stand and fight for it even if I'm alone. Popular or unpopular, I could care less. Take your voting and shove it.

      Actions speaks louder than words. Except mine. My words are pretty awesome. No think about all that, and hopefully you'll get it.

      Too many tweets from me. Misspellings abound. You CAN'T protest without showing up. I am not Gandhi. I will kick your face.


    Except, um, Punk didn't show up at the end. He didn't speak up. He literally didn't stand up for Hunter. His denouncement of voting also leaves him, ironically, voiceless.

    (edited by Matt Tracker on 4.10.11 1825)


Didn't stand up for Hunter? Maybe he(Punk) agrees with Hunter which is why Cena,and,Orton and Kelly Kelly were no show too. Why go out there and complain? Who needs them? Triple H should have fired them all.



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#85 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by I Breastfeed John Madden
    I took Beth's comment to be nothing more than chicken-shit heeling, no different than Cody's mask or Lawler's broken leg from the '93 Summerslam.


But my point was that isn't her character...has she been that type of heel for the past few months? She's supposed to be a monster, face or heel.



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#86 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
      Originally posted by I Breastfeed John Madden
      I took Beth's comment to be nothing more than chicken-shit heeling, no different than Cody's mask or Lawler's broken leg from the '93 Summerslam.


    But my point was that isn't her character...has she been that type of heel for the past few months? She's supposed to be a monster, face or heel.


They never been great booking monster heels. I remember reading something awhile back about Vince thinking that all heels should be chickenshit.
dwaters
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#87 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
So The Miz and R-Truth are now Ronnie and Mike?

They should get Bobby Lashley and mentor Ricky Steamboat to form a New Edition stable.

("Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, and Mike...)


Can't wait for the Muppets so I can finally learn where Scooter and Gonzo stand on the HHH conspiracy issue. I guess it truly is ALL ABOUT THE GAME.
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#88 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
My choice for future Slammy winner for Best Actor William Regal chimed in on his participation of the walkout and it's way more interesting from a storyline perspective (with some shoot comments worked in!) than CM Punk's ramblings:

@RealKingRegal William Regal
Some people have asked about the walkout on Raw.My personal reasons for my action was that I think HHH has enough on his plate being the COO.I know exactly what it takes to be in charge of Raw and it comes at a dear price(or it did with me).HHH is in charge of the WWE.He needs to concentrate on the company as a whole and put a suitable candidate in charge of the Raw brand. Although we haven't had much to do with each other(apart from the odd scuffle)18 years ago myself and HHH where very close. We choose separate paths but my heart went out to him last night as for whatever has happened in our respective lives,we where once friends. I don't agree with the superstars on any of there reasons for walking out on HHH.I just want him to share some of his burden. And I hope this message gets to him and he respects my view.

So would Triple H appointing a new, presumably non-laptop GM for RAW and stepping back from hands on running the show be enough to settle the score with the roster? What if he appoints... Vince McMahon? (Sorry. Fantasy booking.)

(edited by John Orquiola on 4.10.11 2144)


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#89 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.06
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#90 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.06
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#91 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Guys, Beth's not gonna have sex with you no matter how much you try to defend her monster-heel honour.
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#93 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
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#94 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Why go out there and complain?


I suppose they're saving it for Monday to give them prominence.

Or waiting to see what WE say in the interim and craft their stance around that.

This makes Punk a little more heelish to me. He could have grabbed a mic and opposed the vocal majority ("be the catalyst"). He could have tried to sway the roster. Instead, he stayed out of it. So did other big names. It's a weak move.



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#95 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.60
How about this leads to HHH stipping all the people who walked out of their titles, leading to next Monday being all about crowning new champions. Which, means, WWE Champion CM Punk, World Heavyweight Champion John Cena, Tag Team Champs Randy Orton and Zack Ryder - team Double R - WOOWOOWOORKO (did Ryder walk out?) and, of course, uniting the US and Intercontinental titles: Kelly Kelly. Bring Zybysko for commentary (PUSSIES~!) and the night will be complete. Which leads to Raw going off the air with Corporate Taker coming out onto the ramp at the end of the night in full suit and tie saying: "It was me, Paul! It was me the whole time~!"


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#96 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    This makes Punk a little more heelish to me. He could have grabbed a mic and opposed the vocal majority ("be the catalyst"). He could have tried to sway the roster. Instead, he stayed out of it. So did other big names. It's a weak move.


He pulled a Shane Douglas '97!



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#97 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.71
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Except, um, Punk didn't show up at the end. He didn't speak up. He literally didn't stand up for Hunter. His denouncement of voting also leaves him, ironically, voiceless.
I'm assuming Punk & Cena show up at the top of the show next Monday (or Friday) & report that they got messages from John Laurinitis (or HHH's highly secure cell phone, or an anonymous twitterer, or the make-up chick) sending them out of the building on some sort of wild goose chase, specifically to get them out of the way.

This angle's gonna drag out til Royal Rumble, isn't it? Yeesh.
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#98 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.21
I think it makes sense for some of those pro-Triple H who didn't show up to the bitch session (Orton, Cena, Sheamus, Punk) to be on one Survivor Series team, with Rock thrown in as well. I think those were also names that have been bandied about as far as who to team with Rock and Cena. Could be coincidence, but we'll see.



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#99 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by geemoney
    I think it makes sense for some of those pro-Triple H who didn't show up to the bitch session (Orton, Cena, Sheamus, Punk) to be on one Survivor Series team, with Rock thrown in as well. I think those were also names that have been bandied about as far as who to team with Rock and Cena. Could be coincidence, but we'll see.

I think it was fairly clear from Punk's tweets that he isn't "Pro-Triple H." He thinks the confidence vote and walkout were stupid ways of handling the situation.



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#100 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
    Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
    Which leads to Raw going off the air with Corporate Taker coming out onto the ramp at the end of the night in full suit and tie saying: "It was me, Paul! It was me the whole time~!"


Corporate Taker sounds like a delicious concept. I am always up for an Undertaker heel run.
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