I caught part of WWE Experience Sunday morning and heard Ivory say that Lita did not lose her baby after last week's incident and that Kane stayed with her through the whole ordeal.
So not only does this story continue, but it seems to me like an extorting rapist pyromaniac attempted murderer alleged necrophiliac Kane might be turning face. Ugh. Hopefully I was just hearing things or nothing said on Experience should be taken as canon.
Originally posted by lagboyz_jfkbut it seems to me like an extorting rapist pyromaniac attempted murderer alleged necrophiliac Kane might be turning face.
The strange part is that he was a face when the alleged necrophiliac business was going on.
Yeah and the heel, 3H, was bad for bringing that to our attention.
Kane is played. He should have never gained his voice (thanks Pac), nor lost the mask/hair (thanks ______). Before those pivotal turns, he could have perished in that garbage fire (thanks Shane, almost) and come back as a different character. And we'd all be better off, IMHO.
As things stand today, we have to deal with Lita being forced by her boss to marry the man who raped her and inpregnated her. (lovely) If he turns face, what does that do to Matt's chances of coming back ever? As a heel (angry at the dude who raped his gf)?
Originally posted by sentonBOMBThe strange part is that he was a face when the alleged necrophiliac business was going on.
Yeah and the heel, 3H, was bad for bringing that to our attention.
For what its worth, Kane never did indulge in necrophilia in the HHH angle. Trips dressed up as Kane and molested a mannequin which was meant to be Kane's dead friend. Trips was bad for mocking the tragic death, and Kane was meant to be the sympathetic face. Or something.
Not that any of that stopped the angle sucking, but still.
As for the rest, Kane still gets as good a reaction as most on the roster and the way they use him allows him to be believably thrown into the ME at any time. While the whole wedding thing might not be the preferred recepticle of hot beverage for many around here, it drew pretty strong ratings.
Kane didn't rape Lita, he made a deal with her to sleep with him in exchange for him not destroying Matt. She willingly went along with him, thinking it a onetime deal.
As far as the angle itself, some see chicken shit, others see chicken salad.
While Lita's acting has been consistently at the same low level as all her past speaking performances, and Matt's tortured overacting facials show he still has room to improve as a performer, Kane has been thoroughly entertaining. Regular viewers know not to expect much on the mic from any of the women except maybe Trish, and Kane spent too many voiceless years under the mask, I'm glad he is comfortable taking this trainwreck of an angle and running with it. He has made this angle work, nothing else. The fans have been cheering him even though he's a heel because either they appreciate his work, or maybe they'd like to talk to their own wives that way...
Originally posted by dMrAs for the rest, Kane still gets as good a reaction as most on the roster and the way they use him allows him to be believably thrown into the ME at any time. While the whole wedding thing might not be the preferred recepticle of hot beverage for many around here, it drew pretty strong ratings.
And God knows, Kane has been thrust into a program via a receptacle of hot beverage! *Ba-dum-bum*
Y'know, I can't believe it but I still like Kane, the performer. He really has worked hard, considering some of the drivel the writers have given him.
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Kane didn't rape Lita, he made a deal with her to sleep with him in exchange for him not destroying Matt
If we rerun the angle with one slight change:
Kane made a deal with her to sleep with him in exchange for him not destroying Lita
Then that's totally garden variety rape, right? Kane is forcing Lita to have sex, and Lita's an unwilling particpant who's only alternate options are so bad, rape looks relatively good not as bad.
Same scenerio the way it is; the other choice wasn't so good, and she was forced into it.
Further more, it's clearly been portrayed in storylines as rape. RAW has pushed this "Poor Lita, this horrible thing happened to her". Just like they want you to believe the punch actually connected to get over the wrestling, they want you think Lita was forced into having sex to get over the storyline.
Boy is Lita dumb, looking back at it now - she slept with Kane to prevent Matt from dying, and he dies anyway. And it's not like she couldn't have guessed a Hardy Boy would die given half a reason.
Kane kicks ass. I am prolly the only one who LOVED the whole Katie Vick angle. That was good comedy. The best line was Bischoff to HBK on RAW "Whats a matter, a little necrophilla insult you?" or something along those lines.If they make him a face, I wouldnt mind. I could see Matt coming back as a heel again and Kane defending Lita. That wouldnt be so bad. Either that or Lita turns heel is the only thing that makes sense.
And besides, I cant see a miscarriage happening from one little fall. I mean, come on, thats not realistic. Lita needs to do a lot more to have a miscarriage. You'd think Kane's super monster sperm would give the baby a little more toughness. If Kane can survive getting thrown into a firery dumpster, this baby can take a fall.
I hope Lita has the baby, and its BLACK. That would be funny as hell. They never said the baby was in fact Kane's. She just said the DNA didnt match Matt's. So, they got a loophole to make it not Kane's.
Originally posted by Kane Is UglyI hope Lita has the baby, and its BLACK. That would be funny as hell. They never said the baby was in fact Kane's. She just said the DNA didnt match Matt's. So, they got a loophole to make it not Kane's.
I suppose Maven could do with a storyline for a while...
Originally posted by thecubsfanFurther more, it's clearly been portrayed in storylines as rape. RAW has pushed this "Poor Lita, this horrible thing happened to her".
I don't agree with this; yes, poor Lita, she had sex with Kane. But it was clearly shown as her choice to have sex with Kane, she had been given time to make a decision about it. That is not what one would think of when you say it's clearly been portrayed as a rape, since most rapists don't normally give their victims any choice, let alone giving them time to think it over. If anything it's been portrayed as Lita being blackmailed, which is probably how it would be seen in legal terms as well.
Originally posted by GreymarchMan, I would so rather this turn Lita heel instead. Have he start bossing Kane to go destroy Snisky. Or anyone else that looks at her funny.
Um... they already did this storyline. With Kane.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to Tori?
She got fired right before Tough Enough I ended. Her last role was Raven's "Ninja".
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Already had a thread like this. http://wienerboard.com/thread.php/id=12033 And Long had been refereeing in WWE in recent years before this manager thing. Edit-just to pat myself on the back for correctly putting up my first link! :)