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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
It does take more than two guys to create a stable. I'd love to see Vickie pick someone up off the scrap heap that isn't doing anything right now. Hello, Drew McIntyre.




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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.71
"But I like Waffle House."

Live (more or less) from San Diego ...

Last night was just weird. Bad vibe in the building. Weird audience. One of those "more interested in getting on TV than watching the show" audiences.) Bizarrely light reaction for Rey. I wasn't sure if it was just me having a really off night, but it sounds like some of y'all picked up on it too.

Rey was looking pretty bad as they dragged him out of the arena. Looked like he'd legit tweaked his knee early on, but I'm concerned that he got extra hurt at the end of the match. (For Rey to not rally enough to so much as wave to a SD audience on his way out is concerning.)

The post-show was more fun than pretty much all of the real show. ADR came back out to try to promo with Cena. As ADR eventually tried to run away from a fight with Cena, not surprisingly, Punk blocked ADR's exit. We ended up with Punk & Cena in the ring with ADR's title belt. Being *not* on TV, they were playing nice, handing it back & forth to pose, etc. Ricardo Rodriguez ended up getting shoved into the ring, trying to get the belt back from the big boys. Punk & Cena were teasing (Bullying?) him with a bullfighting style "ole" as he'd try to get the belt from them. Eventually, RR got the eat each of Punk & Cena's finishers. Punk was trying to get a 619 chant going for Rey, but crowd wasn't catching on to that.

Just a weird night overall.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.27
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely


      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Punk won his segment with Nash, and I think Nash was intentionally in a low gear, trying to play the sincere old guy who got hoodwinked.


    I agree with Tracker on this one. We were seeing Kevin Nash, professional actor, last night playing his Serious Guy character, with a dash of role of out of touch older guy added to the routine. I actually appreciate that Nash started slow so Punk could cruise to the first round victory without having to break out the good material yet. I suspect we'll still get crazy Nash in the weeks to come.



I keep hearing about this Kevin Nash, but I don't really remember ever seeing him. Kevin Nash was never Shawn Michaels on the mic and I'd even argue that Helmsley is a better mic worker than Nash was at his peak. Kevin Nash is a good talker, but he's never been one that can make a quick change on the fly and his comebacks to insults usually if not always consist of whatever, you are small, or I can kick your ass.

Kevin Nash is 52 years old. 52! He's not cool anymore. His last meaningful match was probably sometime in his late 30's. Mention Kevin Nash to a wrestling fan and most likely the first image that pops into their head is a guy standing around with a mic in his hand. I'd love to see a poll of wrestling fans in their teens on who or what Kevin Nash is.

Without looking anything up I've been sitting here trying to figure out my favorite Kevin Nash singles match and all I can think of is garbage like the Goldberg Match, The Fingerpoke of Doom, the hair vs hair with Jericho where he got a light trim and a new hairstyle by the end of the show. There was one against Undertaker that I'll go with, but I'm probably forgetting one against HBK.

I don't even hate Kevin Nash, but he's never done much to advance wrestling. Kevin Nash is the poster child for everything CM Punk is rallying against, and yet it's unlikely that Punk will be allowed to really stick it to Nash. His ego won't allow it, so why insert him into this spot?


... and to top it all off two to three months from now when Nash has long outlived his usefulness in this angle, he'll still be in the middle of it probably being seen sitting on a couch backstage cracking a joke or two while people conspire.

If there is a bigger one trick pony in the business I'd love to hear it. It never ends well with this guy.


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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.28
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Without looking anything up I've been sitting here trying to figure out my favorite Kevin Nash singles match and all I can think of is garbage like the Goldberg Match, The Fingerpoke of Doom, the hair vs hair with Jericho where he got a light trim and a new hairstyle by the end of the show. There was one against Undertaker that I'll go with, but I'm probably forgetting one against HBK.
There's certainly been more bad than good.

His Wrestlemania match with Undertaker was surprisingly good, as was his WWE title loss to Bret Hart, but his best singles match was easily his no-holds-barred match with Shawn Michaels, the main event of IYH: Good Friends, Better Enemies. That was the match where he ripped Mad Dog Vachon's fake leg off to use as a weapon.

But yeah, having good matches with Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart and Undertaker does not indicate that you yourself are worth a damn.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Not to mention, the most recent of any of those was 15 years ago.
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.28
I think everyone is overlooking the most important thing that Kevin Nash will bring to RAW: Those hip hand signals. I'm sure he's been studying the youth culture to get up to date yet.
Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?
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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.26
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?


I also remembered that it was in reference to He Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered on WWE TV. In fact, right after that I thought "if CM Punk was really gonna chuck a verbal pipebomb out there he would've said Benoit was the 'Vanilla Midget'." The point would have been made just as effectively, too.



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.96
Eddie was part of the vanilla midgets ie the Radicals which to me was the official end of the Monday Night Wars. It was also my first Monday Night Raw I attended live which was one of the greatest nights of my life. The Radicals made me jump out of my seat all Kevin Nash made me do was turn the channel. Hogan was the big deal of the NWO don't anyone tell you otherwise. Nash is more known for burying people on the mic than having good mic skills. There is a giant difference.

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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.36
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?

Thank you! I'm glad someone brought this up because I didn't want to be the first. That's exactly how I remember it. As soon as Punk said it my immediate reaction was, "Nope, got this one wrong, Phil."

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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.96
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?

    Thank you! I'm glad someone brought this up because I didn't want to be the first. That's exactly how I remember it. As soon as Punk said it my immediate reaction was, "Nope, got this one wrong, Phil."

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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.63
    Originally posted by geemoney

    Nash said he asked Hunter for tickets to attend Summerslam (they’re giving him the “what” chant) and talked about a text Hunter sent him: “no matter who wins, stick the winner for me.”



My observation of the night goes to out to body language experts. Go back & watch the interview, after the "what" started he flinched. Almost rolled his eye because he couldn't believe he was getting that reaction. After the third one when he paused you could see the micro expressions. Momentary but great to catch. I almost though he was going to break from the subdued speech & tell everyone to shut up.





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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by StingArmy
        Originally posted by redsoxnation
        Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?

      Thank you! I'm glad someone brought this up because I didn't want to be the first. That's exactly how I remember it. As soon as Punk said it my immediate reaction was, "Nope, got this one wrong, Phil."

      - StingArmy


    No, its right.
Speaking as the definitive Nitro recapper of the time - AND because I looked it up - Eddie Guerrero was out injured for most of the first half of 1999. At the time the term was coined, the "Vanilla Midgets" moniker exclusively referred to Malenko & Benoit (slashwrestling.com).



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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.36
    Originally posted by jwrestle
    My observation of the night goes to out to body language experts. Go back & watch the interview, after the "what" started he flinched. Almost rolled his eye because he couldn't believe he was getting that reaction. After the third one when he paused you could see the micro expressions. Momentary but great to catch. I almost though he was going to break from the subdued speech & tell everyone to shut up.

I saw this at the time and I interpreted it pretty much exactly how you did. For a second it sure did seem like Nash was going to go all "How dare you!" and "Respect your elders!" on the crowd. But not in a gimmicky heel sort of way; rather, in a legitimately annoyed/angered/hurt way.

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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by lotjx
        Originally posted by StingArmy
          Originally posted by redsoxnation
          Also, is it revisionist history that was spouted with Eddy Guerrero being called a vanilla midget, because I thought that title was reserved for Malenko and Benoit?

        Thank you! I'm glad someone brought this up because I didn't want to be the first. That's exactly how I remember it. As soon as Punk said it my immediate reaction was, "Nope, got this one wrong, Phil."

        - StingArmy


      No, its right.
    Speaking as the definitive Nitro recapper of the time - AND because I looked it up - Eddie Guerrero was out injured for most of the first half of 1999. At the time the term was coined, the "Vanilla Midgets" moniker exclusively referred to Malenko & Benoit (slashwrestling.com).

Nothing wrong with a little revisionist history here since one of the two names you just don't mention and the other wouldn't get much of a pop.

Not that mentioning Eddy got much of a pop either.



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.96
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vanilla%20midget

This says otherwise, 2 of the 3 definitions including the oldest has Eddie. I tried reading the review, but the only thing I saw was the Perfect and Windham comment. It could be there, but I forgot how the background fucks with my eyes at times.



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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
Look what someone did to the Waffle House Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House



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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.49


That is hilarious!

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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.10


Awesome! And see? That's a Kevin Nash joke, ladies and gentlemen. He's still got it!



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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.13


Unless I completely missed it, looks like it's been edited away.
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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
The Vanilla Midget line isn't technically true, but he certainly wasn't going to mention Benoit, and Malenko would have gotten zero reaction (hell, the Eddie mention didn't do much).
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