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#121 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.67
Is a rating point the same now as it was then? I'm sure that one rating point is worth more than it was back in 98, so a 3.2 now could be more estimated viewers than a 4.0 back then.



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#122 Posted on
Pay-per-view buy rates are much more important than ratings. They had been declining for the past two years, while the ratings have been around the same level for near enough a decade now.

I'm pretty certain that Money In The Bank will draw a higher number than last year's show. By how much is the key, and if the numbers can continue to be above last year through Summerslam and onward.

For what it's worth, I predict MITB will draw in excess of 500,000 buys, which would be a great result for all concerned.
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#123 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.08
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    Is a rating point the same now as it was then? I'm sure that one rating point is worth more than it was back in 98, so a 3.2 now could be more estimated viewers than a 4.0 back then.
One more thing to consider is that DVRs weren't as widely used back then (certainly not in 1998 since the first DVR devices weren't launched until March of 1999) as they are now.

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#124 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.57
    Originally posted by superfurry
    Pay-per-view buy rates are much more important than ratings. They had been declining for the past two years, while the ratings have been around the same level for near enough a decade now.

    I'm pretty certain that Money In The Bank will draw a higher number than last year's show. By how much is the key, and if the numbers can continue to be above last year through Summerslam and onward.

    For what it's worth, I predict MITB will draw in excess of 500,000 buys, which would be a great result for all concerned.


Have you seen what they have been charging? COX down here charges $54.99 now for a WWE PPV. I miss the days of $19.99 WWE PPV's.
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#125 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.63
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    Is a rating point the same now as it was then? I'm sure that one rating point is worth more than it was back in 98, so a 3.2 now could be more estimated viewers than a 4.0 back then.


Right. A rating point is the percentage of the total television universe, which has expanded over the years. Neilsen has a graph showing the expansion, and says they recalculate the percentage every August.

    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    One more thing to consider is that DVRs weren't as widely used back then (certainly not in 1998 since the first DVR devices were launched in March of 1999) as they are now.


Neilsen does add in viewers from DVRs (provided they watch the show within seven days.) For whatever reason, WWE TV is said has a relatively low amount amount of added DVR viewers.


    For what it's worth, I predict MITB will draw in excess of 500,000 buys, which would be a great result for all concerned.


That would not be a great number. That would be an unbelievable number. Recent buyrates are much, much lower. Extreme Rules had 65,000 buys. Last year's MITB did 99,000. Page 5 of this PDF has a pretty line graph if you want to dig in to it, but a 150,000 buy rate would be great in today's environment.

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#126 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
What portion of WWE's overall money intake is dictated by US TV advertising? I know keeping TV viewers as high as possible is important for the knock on effects in terms of exposure, merchandise, live shows etc, but the recent use of Khali and Mahal on SD has made me wonder generally about courting more foreign audiences (I'm guessing India has a fairly huge and growing TV audience) as well as the relative number of people watching in America compared to the rest of the world.
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#127 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
7. Paul Heyman not caring if your ring has four sides, six sides, eight sides, etc. I can't for the life of me remember the context though.
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#128 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.87
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

    Neilsen does add in viewers from DVRs (provided they watch the show within seven days.) For whatever reason, WWE TV is said has a relatively low amount amount of added DVR viewers.


But of course the 3.2 wouldn't include any DVR, because the week isn't up yet. I would guess at the very least Raw wouldn't get many DVR viewers because it is live, and if you watch it later you've "missed out".

    Originally posted by 2P4E
    What portion of WWE's overall money intake is dictated by US TV advertising?

Domestic Television Rights Fees was the single largest revenue source in 2010. It breaks down like this (all numbers in millions):
Domestic Television Rights Fees - $81.6
Worldwide Pay-Per-View Revenue - $70.2
North American Live Event Revenue - $64.7
Consumer Product Licensing - $51.7
International Television Rights Fees - $45.4
International Live Event Revenue - $39.9
Home Video - $32.1
WWE Studios - $19.6
Venue Merchandise - $18.4 (btw, how much of that do you suppose is Cena-related?)
WWE.com - $14.9
WWEShop - $14
Magazine Publishing - $11
Television Advertising - $5.9
WWE Classics On Demand - $4.6
Other Consumer Products - $2.6
Other Live and Televised - $1.1



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#129 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.71
They make $4.6 million from OnDemand? That has to be money given from the cable or dish companies, because I refuse to believe that many people have that service. In all honesty, I thought the merchandising would be in the top three of revenue. I guess people really like their WWE DVD collections or fans of the older stuff.



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#130 Posted on
    Originally posted by Alex
    7. Paul Heyman not caring if your ring has four sides, six sides, eight sides, etc. I can't for the life of me remember the context though.


I think that was Kurt Angle issuing an open challenge to any competitor.



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#131 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23

Y'know, last week Punk did assure Cena that he wouldn't have to worry about getting fired. ("Let's take you back to the last time you got fired, and it lasted all of about seven days. It's not gonna happen. So you don't have that to worry about.")



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#132 Posted on
I was pretty excited to see Vince finally losing his Chairman powers. For about a decade now, WWE has been marred by the fact that a villain character was in control of the company. There was some good symbolism in having a dude wearing an Austin shirt be behind Vince McMahon's downfall.

Another aspect of the Vince-firing that I liked, was that it was largely due to him losing control of the WWE Champion under Montreal-like circumstances. An implication there is that Vince's character would have been removed from his post in 1997 if he had not screwed Bret back then. If this really was the permanent end of Mr. McMahon's reign, then I appreciate how they had him come full circle back to the situation his character was at in the beginning.

John Cena's allusion to TNA/Immortal was a bit of edginess that I was surprised to see from him. Good stuff.

It was a fun show overall.
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