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#101 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.57
Speaking of stripped titles don't forget Jericho had to hand his over. It was the right thing for the company.

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#102 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.78
Well, that was an interesting two days. Bad luck that Raw went to Green Bay last night, few places 'hate' Chicago as much - I was surprised we got as much of a CM Punk chant up there as we did.

Until the last 15 minutes of Raw, I thought the whole tournament was a set-up for a Miz face turn. After surviving the Riley and Kofi matches, I was expecting Truth to get past Rey, and really go after Miz's knee in the final.

Which after Miz guts out a brutal victory, Del Rio swoops in with the briefcase to snatch the new belt away before people can finish celebrating. Rodriguez coming back as Alberto's personal announcer only helped feed this idea. You'd have slingshotted right into a Miz-Del Rio feud that could filled the Raw spot for SummerSlam over "The WWE Championship" while developing the Cena-Vince fallout and them figuring out what to do about Punk and the REAL WWE title.

Ah well...

(So if it turns out they saw that the show was going to run too long around 9:30, it could have been an audible to put Rey over in the last match to set up next week's championship match.)

I'm willing to cut them some slack on developing the story (and so far I haven't heard any leaks about what sort of deal or understanding Punk has with WWE, or how much time he's taking off), but I agree with others here that there should be some effort to get the locker room's reaction to all this into the show.

Assuming he's becoming a regular on-air authority figure, I do have some concerns about putting HHH out there again, three things come immediately to mind:

1) I'm not sure how it will work if the new 'boss' looks like he's the baddest dude in the company.

2) How will they transition back to wrestling HHH when it's time to set up the expected H-Taker WM rematch next year?

3) Nobody 'shows ass' to pay off a storyline like Vince - will HHH do the same? Or if he plays it as a 'face' commissioner, what sort of group do you need to create a credible threat?



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#103 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.99


Jericho's title wasn't stripped, otherwise his win would be in the record books, which it isn't. The match against Triple H officially never happened, according to Triple H back in the day. So, it was different back then. CM Punk is and stays in the record books.
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#104 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
If I have a complaint about Raw it is that once again nothing changes with Cena. Vince's threat that he would just go and make another John Cena or another TEN John Cenas makes you wonder if he really could. I'm guessing not, otherwise they would actually do something with John Cena other than have him be just John Cena.

Even though they want you to think that the whole landscape has changed. The title is gone, Vince is gone, Helmsley is in, but isn't it all for naught if John Cena is still John Cena? John Cena is still the top dog. John Cena still does everything for all the right reasons and in the end is always right. John Cena is still the New York Yankees. So, while Punk shook the company he didn't change the one thing that sticks in a lot of people's craw, John Cena.

The WWE's reluctance to do anything with Cena has prevented them from payoffs that would make good angles great and great angles game changers. John Cena might be their cash cow, but he is also what is standing in the way of this company moving forward in a productive manner.





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#105 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.13
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    If I have a complaint about Raw it is that once again nothing changes with Cena. Vince's threat that he would just go and make another John Cena or another TEN John Cenas makes you wonder if he really could. I'm guessing not, otherwise they would actually do something with John Cena other than have him be just John Cena.

    Even though they want you to think that the whole landscape has changed. The title is gone, Vince is gone, Helmsley is in, but isn't it all for naught if John Cena is still John Cena? John Cena is still the top dog. John Cena still does everything for all the right reasons and in the end is always right. John Cena is still the New York Yankees. So, while Punk shook the company he didn't change the one thing that sticks in a lot of people's craw, John Cena.

    The WWE's reluctance to do anything with Cena has prevented them from payoffs that would make good angles great and great angles game changers. John Cena might be their cash cow, but he is also what is standing in the way of this company moving forward in a productive manner.




Simple alteration that I'm offering now to WWE, free of charge. Change YOU CAN'T C ME to YOU CAN'T B ME. One letter, completely different meanings, and completely new Cena.

You're welcome.
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#106 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
Am I the only one bored of Del Rio? He does nothing for me. Yet they seem hellbent on keeping their SummerSlam plans, even though the landscape has changed drastically in the last month.

Del Rio is just another guy who seems to have no more of a gimmick than saying his name (how many times have they recycled that bit? Ziggler, Kennedy, etc).
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#107 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.41
Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.



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#108 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by graves9
    Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.
OR: Good news, everyone! This week's RAW has a rating which is up 10+% over last week's broadcast!



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#109 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by graves9
      Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.
    OR: Good news, everyone! This week's RAW has a rating which is up 10+% over last week's broadcast!

Out of curiosity, because I haven't followed Raw ratings in a dog's age, what would be considered a high rating nowadays?



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#110 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.55
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    Just a thought. Instead of going through with the tourney final, have HHH say that he wants to do the right thing, and Punk won the belt fair and square...but the rules say that if you're the champ, you have to defend the belt. So Punk needs to defend in a 3-way against Rey and Miz at the next PPV. If he doesn't show up, he's stripped of the title, and Rey and Miz fight to be the new champ. Put a little intrigue back into things, and at the same time make everything "right" by the old-school rules of wrestling.


You know what would be great. Is that they do this, Punk 'no shows' until both men are incapacitated, runs down pins one of them and runs out. Championship retained...see you in another 30 days.



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#111 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.15
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Originally posted by CRZ
        Originally posted by graves9
        Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.
      OR: Good news, everyone! This week's RAW has a rating which is up 10+% over last week's broadcast!

    Out of curiosity, because I haven't followed Raw ratings in a dog's age, what would be considered a high rating nowadays?


Raw did a 3.9 the week after Rock returned and people expected him to appear again. That's probably the high water mark.
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#112 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.68
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by geemoney
      References to TNA (vague and otherwise) on WWE TV:

      1. JR calling a side slam a "black hole slam."
      2. Mr. Kennedy saying "thanks for showing up" to fake Razor Ramon a night after Scott Hall no-showed a TNA PPV.
      3. Joey Styles calling Kid Kash "Mr. TNA- Total Non-Stop Attitude" at One Night Stand.
      4. Tonight

      Any others?


    5. Kaval actually saying the words "Total Nonstop Action" in a promo on NXT, and getting immediately called an idiot by Michael Cole.


6. Matt Striker calling Christian's return to ECW "instantly classic," a take on his TNA nickname.

As for the titles: I thought I read somewhere that the champs carry one version all over (for house shows and the like), but there is a second, more HDTV-friendly version of the belt they have to pick up at Gorilla to take out into the arena. I feel like that's why Edge forgot the World Title one time when he came out on Smackdown then had to go back in to get it.
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#113 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.53
    Originally posted by graves9
    Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.


Well, it puts Raw back up to normal ratings, maybe last weeks lousy rating was a fluke or people actually were watching Home Run Derby.

Considering the show was highlighted by mid-carders, I don't think it's a bad rating.

I guess what is concern is Raw can only draw big ratings when they bring in Rock and perhaps Stone Cold.
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#114 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.57
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by graves9
      Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.
    OR: Good news, everyone! This week's RAW has a rating which is up 10+% over last week's broadcast!


Stock up today too,

http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-price?symbol=WWE
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#115 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
Why would people want *other* superstars to start acting like CM Punk? It just dilutes the guy's appeal and makes his eventual return that much less special.
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#116 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.94
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Why would people want *other* superstars to start acting like CM Punk? It just dilutes the guy's appeal and makes his eventual return that much less special.


Not act like Punk, act like themselves, just looking for the same freedom to be themselves that Punk had.



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#117 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.88
    Originally posted by KJames199
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      Perhaps Triple H will indeed reveal himself as the Anonymous RAW GM all along, thereby it makes sense that the "Board of Directors" would grant him control of the whole company. If he's Anon. GM, then he's had a year long tryout as the Guy in Charge.
    How does that make sense? The anonymous Raw GM has been a big ol' douche. Why give that guy more power?

Well, if the board of directors has the power to fire Vince, then surely they could fire the GM if they wanted. But they haven't, so they must like the job he's doing. Or she.

Plus, they could reveal it by having Hunter send a text in the ring, and the GM thing chimes and Michael Cole gets up to read it, but the message is a trick designed to get Cole to say he loves cocks.
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#118 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
    Originally posted by graves9
    Raw drew a 3.2 rating that has to be a disappointment after the build up the last few weeks and a great ppv.

A historical fact of possibly no great relevance.

Raw Ratings:
1/12/98 - week before Royal Rumble - 3.4
1/19/98 - Steve Austin confronts Mike Tyson - 4.0
1/26/98 - aftermath of Austin/Tyson confrontation - 3.5

The next time Raw cracked the 4.0 mark was 4/6/98, the second show after WM 14. During the entire Austin/Michaels/Tyson angle, the ratings never moved up to where they were the first night after the Rumble. Yet in retrospect we view that time as the beginning of the turnaround in the Monday Night Wars.





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#119 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.57
Stock UP again today. I guess not everyone hated Monday's show.

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#120 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
Please stop posting links to WWE stock quotes.

(Or: please stop posting.)



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