Originally posted by Matt TrackerThe ending segment only convinced me that they should have done Rock/Cena at WrestleMania. Also, Cena missed an easy target at Team Bring It via his own Cenation.
I wish we got this level of complexity from more angles. It's not airtight, mind you, but it's a refreshing change.
I was half expecting a joke about the Team Brandon or Team Jacob things out of Twilight (are those the right names?). Team Bring It just seems ... I dunno, weird. It seemed extremely out of place and out of character for The Rock to talk about being a champion for people overcoming their own fears and insecurities. Just came out of nowhere.
Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaverI'm fairly sure I'm going to be in the minority with this, but only John Cena could make the Cena/Rock confrontation dull.... and was it my imagination or was Miz better on the mike than both of them? (edited by DirtyMikeSeaver on 28.3.11 2040)
I (totally) agree with you.
And yes, Miz has to go over, like someone else said.
Team Bring it has been around since 2002, so this is nothing new here. I am also in the minority, shocking I know, but Cena's promo did nothing for me. A lot of it has to do with the funny face he makes. Its like he is not taking it seriously. Cena can not give the serious promo to save his life without doing some wink, wink, nudge to the audience. Last night was the closet he came, but he still found ways to give that goofy face. I also think its not just Chicago, but a lot of cities would have booed the hell out of Cena. People love Rock, Cena is put up with unless its the kiddie crowd who isn't getting into that an event without an adult.
Matt is also right, all of this hype would have been better for Rock/Cena instead of Miz/Cena. They should have planted seeds if Rock would turn on or not. He is the guest host, have him do guest host things like make matches. I have no idea why they bothered with this guest host thing with Rock instead of just saying Rock is going to appear at Mania.
All of the great stuff like Rock/Miz/Cena and Taker/HHH/HBK could have been divided into two or three weeks. Instead of playing small market vs. big market game of hide the superstar before Mania. While I do think there is some doubt about HHH/Taker, I think Taker wins. I did love Shawn mouthing "You can't" to HHH.
The rest was just there, but I missed Orton/Punk which looked good. I know CRZ is taking us to the wood shed over fantasy booking, but Edge/ADR just feels like a regular PPV match on the undercard. I mean how many people can turn on one another on this PPV?
I just picked up watching again before the Rumble after missing the better part of three years of WWE - is it possible that part of this is that Cena was finally allowed to cut loose an play to a more adult audience?
I imagine if I'd been watching Cena "golly gee willaker" and "what the heck is your problem" through the last few years while the product was toned down, I suppose last night would have been extra satisfying.
The promo was fine, an excellent build to WM - on a par with his first response when he broke out the old-school rapper gimmick. It certainly wasn't Cena pulling out a Cartoon-sized "Doctor's Note", or producing a literal pearl necklace from his pocket. I just didn't find it to be the mark-out moment some of you appear to want to call it. (Cena was great in the context of the segment, which I think made Miz, Rock and Cena all look good.)
Maybe it's because I missed the whole 'John Cena, the Rated PG Superstar' era. If I had been used to that Cena, the contrast to what he brought last night may have hiked his performance up by comparison. But even then, the goofy grin through much of the segment wasn't helping me feel his serious anger toward Rock.
(And me being from Chicago, we have all that irrational Cena hatred going - we're even a sister city with Toronto, so we're practically Canadian )
Team Bring It was extrememly lame, but what if Rock does the Hollywood turn, and he and Miz team up as the "Entertainment stars"? Miz with his Real World stint, which led to where he is now, and Rock, with his WWE stuff leading to mega Hollywood stardom? How about Team TMZ? I missed like 3/4 of last night, only caught Shawn backingn up to the corner and leaving when HHH was asking him to help. LOVED Taker's tip 'o the hat. Geezus, I cannot wait for Lawler to piledrive Cole, and the ensuing neck brace fun.
Originally posted by JimBob SkeeterTeam Bring It was extrememly lame, but what if Rock does the Hollywood turn, and he and Miz team up as the "Entertainment stars"? Miz with his Real World stint, which led to where he is now, and Rock, with his WWE stuff leading to mega Hollywood stardom? How about Team TMZ? I missed like 3/4 of last night, only caught Shawn backingn up to the corner and leaving when HHH was asking him to help. LOVED Taker's tip 'o the hat. Geezus, I cannot wait for Lawler to piledrive Cole, and the ensuing neck brace fun.
It would be be nearly impossible to turn Rock at this point as long as he at least shows up on a semi regular basis. Few people over the age of 7 will boo Rock over Cena. I am with you on the piledriver. As an old school Memphis fan, I am practically frothing at the mouth in anticipation. My fear is they save the piledriver for Taker/HHH.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Definitely think Cena just set himself up to lose any of that remaining "over 7" audience and fans he had left. Basically admitting you only appeal to kids makes that 22 year old guy sitting in front of me in Dallas a couple of weeks ago a little more goofy with how he completely adored Cena. How does he relate to this admission? (I'm way overthinking it.)
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Originally posted by lotjxThey should have planted seeds if Rock would turn on or not.
Turn on who, John Cena? He was about to fight him and then he got hit with his finisher. I think that's beyond a seed, it's pretty much a guarantee that they will fight.
He is the guest host, have him do guest host things like make matches. I have no idea why they bothered with this guest host thing with Rock instead of just saying Rock is going to appear at Mania.
It was just a way of saying the Rock was going to be on Wrestlemania in the first place, to give him a reason to be there and set up a showdown with Cena. That was the purpose of using him, not to book the divas into a strong, sexy, and powerful battle royal.
I would have been a lot more excited about HBK showing up if the guy's appearance didn't bum me out. Scruffy, scrawny, with a big ol' hat and cross-eyed look. He gives off the Tom Hanks in Philadephia vibe nowadays. He's not your sexy boy apparently. Embracing the baldness would seem better than the goofy hat.
Miz may have owned Cena physically lately, but Cena has owned Rock in the promo department, and that's not easy to do. The Great One almost looked nervous to start off.
It's good in videos, but that Johnny Cash song does not work as an entrance at all.
Punk's calling him "Randall Keith Orton" is a minor detail that somehow entertains the hell out of me.
It shouldn't bother me, but shouldn't there be stricter rules about Smackdown talent competing on Raw and vice versa? It used to be just the champs, but now it seems anyone can just show up and wrestle, excuse me, entertain, whenever they feel like it. It makes things like the Bragging Rights PPV meaningless.
It's weird that Vince hasn't shown up on TV. We usually get some kind of McMahon presence during the Wrestlemania build up.
Originally posted by dwatersIt shouldn't bother me, but shouldn't there be stricter rules about Smackdown talent competing on Raw and vice versa? It used to be just the champs, but now it seems anyone can just show up and wrestle, excuse me, entertain, whenever they feel like it. It makes things like the Bragging Rights PPV meaningless.
They kinda relax that rule come Wrestlemania time, as if to get the maximum mileage out of feud building and whatnot. I suppose the talent will return to their respective brands once the new "season" starts.
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1.) Wrestling is always on, so the business is cyclical, as they say. 2.) There's lots of shows out there that *wish* they could pull 3s and 4s. *Especially* on cable. What's TNN's biggest show, after wrestling?