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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Easy night for Austin. Come out and do the end of show/ go home bits for the live crowd from the Attitude era, sign a contract and call it a night.

Is it just me or is Otunga getting a lot bigger?

    Originally posted by PaulKTF
    Austin throwing nearly-full beer cans into the audience would've been stupid (and maybe a little dangerous) even in the Attitude era; but now that we're in the PG era, it's just inexcusable.

    If I was some 9 year old who went there to see John Cena; I'd be pissed off if any of the beer splashed on me.

    For a guy who likes to drink; Austin sure does waste a lot of the stuff. I guess they think it makes for good imagry to have him drink the beer much in the same way Cookie Monster eats cookies.


Maybe you should stick to cartoons.


... and Sunny isn't as hot as I remember her, where was Billy the Turtle when I was that age?





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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.51
Wait, did I read that right?

JBL accepted a beer from Austin after he'd already been Stunnered once?!

I can see whose job it was to carry the Idiot Ball last night! Accepting a beer from Stone Cold isn't an especially good idea even if you're not his enemy.



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#23 Posted on
    Originally posted by PaulKTF
    So what's the point in throwing the nearly full beer cans into the audience, then?

    If you're throwing a T-shirt, it's something a fan can grab and take home as a souvenir and wear. But Austin throws a nearly full beer can into the audience, which at the very least showers the fans with the beer (and stands a pretty good chance of clocking someone in the head). What's the point in doing that? Is some fan going to take home and treasure the beer can? I doubt it.

    And if you're a father taking your kid to RAW, and you and/or your kid get beer splashed on you or get knocked in the head with the can; how likely are you to want to come back the next time the WWE is in town?

    It's just a stupid and thoughtless thing to do.



This argument reminds me of the story in Jericho's new book about when he had a non-working mic in the ring and thought it would be cool to throw it into the crowd.

When Jericho met a peeved Vince McMahon backstage asking him why he threw the mic into the crowd, Jericho replied "Well, I've seen Austin do that before when his mic died."

Vince replied, "Steve Austin can throw dead microphones into the crowd. Chris Jericho should just lay his on the ground and wait for another one."





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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Wait, did I read that right?

    JBL accepted a beer from Austin after he'd already been Stunnered once?!

    I can see whose job it was to carry the Idiot Ball last night! Accepting a beer from Stone Cold isn't an especially good idea even if you're not his enemy.


But it's JBL. Bradshaw! He would never refuse a beer, no matter how hard he claims he's evolved.

Austin's just there to pop the crowd, and thus it's okay to just have him barge in and do the stunner and spill beer.
He'll do the same at WM and 70,000 people will cheer.

So I guess next week Sheamus and Bryan go to a double countout, DQ or something to start setting up the Wrestlemania feud.

Plus it seems with Ziggler vs Morrison and Trish taking on Vickie next week we have our WM "wtf" teams

I fear Snooki appearing next week is NOT gonna be as fun as it could be.
It would be great if they could make LOTS of fun of her.
But as she's a guest I doubt they'll go there.





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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    -I like Austin as much as the next guy, but damn dude, get some new material. Rock's changing things up at least.


Example, please? I - of course - loved the attitude era, but I haven't seen anything new from Stone Cold or The Rock in years. I mean, how can it be that John Cena's promos are better than the Rock's? Cena owned him twice now. I know, we are all very excited about Rock's return, but if you look closely he's just doing his same old stuff and nothing new. I hope he will realize this and do something about it .. soon.

That being said, The Miz was on fire again. They are doing a fantastic job with him lately and he's able and willing to deliver. I wouldn't even be too surprised if he would actually defend the belt at Mania. You can't have Cena win a title at every Mania, can you?

Last but not least: Finally, the count out-finish has returned! I don't even try to be sarcastic here. I actually think that having matches end by count out or DQ from time to time is a nice way to protect people and/or do something different.
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#26 Posted on
    Originally posted by CxMorgado
    I completely marked out for JBL, I'm kind of amazed. Like, marked out to the point that I was genuinely mad when Austin came out, because I knew they were going to do the same old "kick wham stunner sign your name on someone else's contract" routine to get Austin in as ref despite JBL actually being a choice that fit to the storyline without making it feel like they wanted to boost the heat with a big name. I was really into the Lawler/Cole beef, and wanted nothing more than to see Lawler ko Cole at 'mania; now I feel like the payoff (and the audiences desire) is going to be Cole getting stunnered instead of Jerry ko'ing him and getting his 'mania moment.

    That said, that was an FANTASTIC segment. JBL looked to be in great shape and killed it on the mic (him calling Cole a "grizzled veteran" made me crack up), and Cole was approaching Heenan levels of temper tantrum. Get this man off the mic and into a managing spot NOW!


This. I couldn't believe I was actually thrilled to see JBL return, but I was. And he does look in awesome shape. Not sure if he could work anymore, but I'd love to see him back in an announcing role, manager role or even just a weekly talk show segment.

I never thought I'd see the day where my most anticipated match at a Wrestlemania involved two announcers.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.44
    Originally posted by CRZ
    the runner (although we now know that that's what they call idiot marks who rush the ring


I thought a runner was a recurring bit on a sitcom, like pointing at the Wrestlemania sign.

    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Wait, did I read that right?

    JBL accepted a beer from Austin after he'd already been Stunnered once?!

    I can see whose job it was to carry the Idiot Ball last night! Accepting a beer from Stone Cold isn't an especially good idea even if you're not his enemy.


JBL was in a groggy, confused, and I daresay stunned state so his decisionmaking was compromised.

    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
    I mean, how can it be that John Cena's promos are better than the Rock's? Cena owned him twice now. I know, we are all very excited about Rock's return, but if you look closely he's just doing his same old stuff and nothing new. I hope he will realize this and do something about it .. soon.


My scoreboard:
Rock ownings - 2
Cena ownings - 1
Cena self-ownings - 2

Rock got emotional and dead serious last week with a tinge of realism that doesn't exist in interviews anymore. Cena acted ironically upset, said "lol Rock's mad lol," and photoshopped a dog. Cena's first promo was fitting and real good but he didn't return serve this time. I know he's capable of doing the serious interview where he talks low and his conviction builds up. Just do that one. He put more passion into his one-hour firing that he knew was 101% bullshit than he has this dream showdown of legends. Maybe the "real" promo is coming, but so far he's dropping the ball in what could be the defining angle of his career.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
My personal favorite moment of the Austin segment? Swagger talking like a bad ass to Cole afterward. Where has THAT guy been?

MISTER ZIGGLES! I liked Ziggler's flying knee dropkick but hated that Morrison no-sold it in his comeback.

Michaels's description of Hunter damn near sold me on that match.

And I like so totally made that Irene Cara joke in the SmackDown thread.



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#29 Posted on
I was in the crowd last night for the show, and the runner at the end was a little on the surreal side, particularly as far as "crazy drunk fan jumps the railing and climbs in the ring goes." It was right after the 2nd layout on Cena, and some dude with a hat jumps in the ring, runs and jumps over Cena and then out. By that point the crowd caught on, and the guy runs and jumps back in the ring, stares at Miz, then hits the ropes where he's promptly tackled. The surreal part? Miz just stood there, almost frozen. Made me yearn for the days when Randy Savage would snap and go Macho Madness all over the fan.

Austin got a nice pop, but for the life of me, I almost swear Orton's response was bigger. I remain completely at a loss for how he's over... I know that comes from my anti-Orton bias, but seriously... there's no explanation for how the crowd digs that guy. I think Austin's involvement wasn't as intense because it was pretty clearly telegraphed to the crowd.





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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.02
    Originally posted by CRZ
    This also applies to InVerse. "I emailed Mattel?" FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!! You are SAVING THE CHILDREN!!


I wasn't at all offended by the segment. I figure any parent stupid enough to bring their children to watch people pretend to beat each other up are the same type of trash who keep open containers of alcohol within reach in the home, so they're not being exposed to anything new.

But since Mattel were supposedly the ones behind getting Daniel Bryan fired for pretending to choke someone with a tie, I thought it would be interesting to see what Mattel thought about the Austin segment.

And in the extremely unlikely that anything came of it, it would be pretty awesome if Mattel were to demand that Austin be pulled from the programming. Or at least not be allowed to drink beer on camera any more. But that's just because I think Austin is a worthless pile of shit.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.31
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by Conan O'Brien's monologue, 7 March 2011
    Next week on WWE's Monday Night Raw, Snooki is gonna step into the wrestling ring.

    [Pause for cheering]

    Yeah, it'll be the first time Snooki has rolled around with a guy on steroids since yesterday.


Not a huge deal, but probably not the type of mainstream response/attention they were looking for.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
In a world where the people who craft things for WWE are not these people, the ridiculous Cena promos the last few weeks would be that he just isn't taking this seriously enough. That he sees himself dealing with a guy he has beaten a billion times and a guy who has been retired for almost a decade.

I guess that could be the hook for the eventual Rock/Cena alliance. Rock gets more and more pissed that Cena is joking around and doing bad photoshops and leaving himself vulnerable to the Miz. Finally this leads to Cena finally getting serious and fulfilling his destiny and blah blah blah, as Rock gets to be Apollo to Cena's Rocky. And Miz is the least Mr. T Clubber ever.

Or maybe Cena just needs to quit thinking about doing nothing but rubbing his schlong on other guys.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.84
Considering what has happened to Nexus in the past 6 months, the best thing that ever happened to Daniel Bryan might have been using the tie to choke the ring announcer as it allowed him to come back on his own rather than being a lackey.
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#34 Posted on
    Originally posted by spf
    I guess that could be the hook for the eventual Rock/Cena alliance. Rock gets more and more pissed that Cena is joking around and doing bad photoshops and leaving himself vulnerable to the Miz. Finally this leads to Cena finally getting serious and fulfilling his destiny and blah blah blah, as Rock gets to be Apollo to Cena's Rocky.


I think you're pretty close to spot-on with this one. In a post-Rock-wants-to-wrestle world, this back and forth leads to what someone else suggested as a stereo "People's Elbow/Five Knuckle Shuffle" on Miz and a handshake to end the show this year.

Unless they go with the "Rock Bottom to give Miz the Win" scenario.

Forgot to mention in the pseudo-live notes above of mine - whereas Orton is generating loud popping effects for some reason, no one came close to the amount of awesome live heat that Vickie got. Yes, Dallas hates Cole... but they at least let him speak.



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#35 Posted on
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Wait, did I read that right?

    JBL accepted a beer from Austin after he'd already been Stunnered once?!

    I can see whose job it was to carry the Idiot Ball last night! Accepting a beer from Stone Cold isn't an especially good idea even if you're not his enemy.


Wasn't that pretty much standard for a while with retired Austin? He stuns you, parades around a bit, makes nice, gives ya a beer, then stunners you again?
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
Also, JBL -- Mister I Hates Me A Bully -- was timidly going along with Austin to placate him. And then kablamo.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro


    My scoreboard:
    Rock ownings - 2
    Cena ownings - 1
    Cena self-ownings - 2

    Rock got emotional and dead serious last week with a tinge of realism that doesn't exist in interviews anymore. Cena acted ironically upset, said "lol Rock's mad lol," and photoshopped a dog. Cena's first promo was fitting and real good but he didn't return serve this time. I know he's capable of doing the serious interview where he talks low and his conviction builds up. Just do that one. He put more passion into his one-hour firing that he knew was 101% bullshit than he has this dream showdown of legends. Maybe the "real" promo is coming, but so far he's dropping the ball in what could be the defining angle of his career.




I see it as The Rock having a good opening promo and Cena having a nice response, everything after that has been really spotty other than Miz's promo last night.

The Rock got too worked up for me the other week. There were some good spots in there but what was his major gripe? Cena dogged him for being too Hollywood and not enough WWE. That Cena wasn't man enough and rapped, so the Rock responded with a rhyme? He was so mad and angry that he yelled from his memorabilia room. Cena responds with cut and paste artwork, and more rap/rhyme. Cena would have been better off walking to the ring and holding up the I Bring It Via Satellite shirt, which was pretty clever.

This is becoming one of those arguments where both sides start off with a good opening statement, but have nowhere to go after that ...'I know you are but what am I?'.

Rock - 1
Cena - 1
Miz - 1







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#39 Posted on
    Originally posted by It's False

    Whose stock has fallen more: Sheamus or R-Truth?

    And then there were two. Should they even bother using the Nexus name at this point? Two guys don't make up a group, you know.

    (edited by It's False on 7.3.11 2028)


Good question on who has fallen further but I think Sheamus has fallen considerably more; a former 2-time WWE Champion who has the credentials to be a legitimate WWE champion again but last week he was squashed twice within 10 mins to Triple H (no surprise) and lost very quickly to Evan Bourne and ever since winning KOTR, Sheamus fall from grace seems to be more noticeable.

I think this is the plan to dissolve Nexus. With McGillicutty in FCW to and now Otunga out of the lineup, it seems that Nexus will be no more come or shortly after WM 27 (maybe even before Wrestlemania the rate it is going).

And one more thing, I was glad to see JBL back even if it was just a one time deal. I would love to see him replace Booker (or a couple others) on commentary as the commentary team(s) need someone who actually has some mic skills.



(edited by The Game on 8.3.11 1528)
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Yeah, I think Austin and Bradshaw performed that particular routine to its maximum effectiveness. Austin tossed him the beer and stared at him, JBL hesitated because he knew what always happens next, Austin pointed to the beer and tilted his head to indicate the universal sign for "Hey, come on, you're too good to have a drink with me, man?" and JBL visually expressed a sentiment of "Oh, what? You mean it? Well, uh, ha, no, no of course not, Steve! I'm glad you finally chose me to be the-" STUNNER. Just quality, time-tested, actorly pantomime, the likes of which The Undertaker and HHH would do well to remember next time they need to mime beneath the harsh, unforgiving glare of the Wrestlemania XXVII Sign.

Aside from his non-verbal acting skills, that was quality work all around from JBL. I found his hatred for bullying to be commendable.

There are few "wrestling logic" things that still manage to entertain me more than the way contracts work in the pro wrestling industry. I will always love the fact that anyone who manages to sign a contract is legally due and/or obligated to do everything stipulated in that contract, no matter what level of previous involvement they've had in contract discussion. And I loved how Cole acknowledged this as it was happening, he knew as soon as Austin caught sight of the clipboard that signing it would be ironclad and absolute.

Having him bury the women with no comeuppance - though that could still come at WM itself - was a really terrible idea, but he was great having that meltdown outside the ring while Austin was gettin' beered. I do hope they have plans for him to become a full-fledged manager, a lot of good could come from that.

Kind of surprised the Undertaker is OK with HHH immediately co-opting his new Last Outlaw gimmick. If anything, they should be pitching this as The Last Outlaw vs. The Last In-Law (Shane's wife, I assume, having been wished well in her future endeavors when Shane requested his release from the McMahon Family.)
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