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TONIGHT: The big question is: Will John Cena return on this show after being injured late in 2010? According to the WWE’s Twitter, WWE will reveal the first Class of 2011 Hall-of-Famer. Plus, build-up for Miz vs. Orton at the Rumble, and what’s next (first?) for CM Punk’s Nexus?

-WWE Open.

-Raw Open.

-No fireworks, instead, Santino Marella’s music hit almost as soon as they went into the arena. It’s a Tag Team Title match to start the show. Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler spoke on camera, and Lawler said they would announce the first inductee into the Class of 2011 Hall-of-Fame. Lawler said it was one of the greatest superstars of all-time. Gotta be Shawn Michaels, I’d say. It certainly isn’t Goldberg, Sting, Ultimate Warrior, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger or any others rumored. Cole said they’d hear from John Cena tonight.

-As Justin Roberts began to announce Marella and Vladimir Kozlov, Nexus hit the ring. They all attacked Marella and Kozlov, eventually throwing them out of the ring. CM Punk got the stick and said the tag title match has been rescheduled for a later date. Punk said Nexus has been the most dominant force WWE has ever seen. Punk said he has set the example that he wants Nexus to follow, unlike their previous leader, Wade Barrett, who failed to set any successful examples. Punk bragged that he took Cena out. He said Cena would appear on the show, and he hoped he would give another tear-jerking goodbye. He said his days on top are just beginning. Later tonight, he said he would make the ultimate sacrifice when he initiates himself as the new leader of the new Nexus. He said the other members need to prove they have what it takes to belong to the new Nexus. If they accept and pass their initiations, then Nexus will be at their apex of power and will take over WWE entirely. David Otunga said he speaks for everyone when he says they look forward to being initiated into Nexus.

Punk began by calling out Michael McGillicutty. Punk said Nexus is famous for the group beat-downs. He said McGillicutty’s initiation is to be on the receiving end of one of the Nexus beat-downs. Punk called on Husky Harris to start it. McGillicutty pleaded with Punk and while Harris stared at him, Otunga gave him his spinebuster. The rest of Nexus was hesitant, but Otunga talked Heath Slater into giving McGillicutty his finisher. Harris stood over his fallen teammate and gave him his splash maneuver. They set McGillicutty up and Justin Gabriel gave him the 450 splash. Lawler said this may be the strangest thing they’ve ever seen on Raw. I don’t know, that covers an awful lot of ground. Just like in the Straight Edge Society, Punk got down on his knees while the other members picked up McGillicutty, putting him on Punk’s shoulders, then Punk gave him the Go To Sleep. Cole tried to say McGillicutty willingly put him through the beating. Well, I saw him begging Punk to change his mind. They replayed the beating. The group walked up the ramp, carrying McGillicutty with them.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole plugged the Royal Rumble microsite on WWE.com.

(1) R-Truth vs. Alberto Del Rio
This is a rematch from last week. He was still holding his neck from the beating he received from Rey Mysterio on Friday night. They’re now mentioning the car that he drives into the arena. Truth pounded on Del Rio early, but Del Rio came back with a backstabber for two. Truth made a brief comeback and ended up clotheslining Del Rio over the top rope. Truth’s momentum carried him over as well. As the two fought on the outside, Rodriguez got a mic and distracted Truth by getting in his face and yelling, “what’s up? What’s up? What’s up?” Truth slapped Rodriguez and Del Rio snuck into the ring to beat the count.

Winner: Del Rio, at 1:50. The count-out finish is getting a bit overplayed.

Del Rio got the mic after the match and said it was another victory for him. He talked again about his destiny being winning the Royal Rumble and headlining Wrestlemania. But tonight, they’re in Nashville, aka Music City. He said they don’t know anything about music or culture. All they know is their Justin Biebers, American Idols, and the horrible and boring country music. Lawler picked out country artist Randy Houser sitting in the front row. Del Rio said in Mexico, they know about music and culture. He called mariachi music, “real music.” Del Rio asked Rodriguez to sing, but Rodriguez was signaling that his mouth was injured from Truth’s slap. Ricky Rod sang “La Cucaracha.”

-Tonight, Cena will speak out live on Raw. As they showed the image and video of Punk sitting over

-Still to come, John Morrison vs. Sheamus.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler briefly touched on The Miz’s attack on him a few weeks ago. Cole suggested Lawler just apologize to Miz. Before he could finish his thought the GM e-mailed Cole. Fans behind Cole chanted, “We want JR” while he stood at the podium. The GM said that Cole has recently been on the receiving end of a lot of criticism, but the GM supports him every step of the way…even though he’s a conceited, pompous, arrogant, self-centered, pretentious jerk. Cole wasn’t happy having to read that. Cole then said he was just kidding and that the GM said Cole has done a phenomenal job and is the epitome of manhood. He said he wishes more people would stand up to popular opinion. The GM continued to speak highly of Cole, even calling him handsome. Lawler interrupted the Cole love-fest saying he received word from the WWE Universe…”will you please shut up?” He said no one would think, say or type that Cole is handsome. He said what Cole really is is a coward. Cole reminded Lawler that he can’t touch him or he’ll be fired. Lawler just slammed the laptop shut. Then there was another e-mail. “It still works,” Cole remarked snidely. The GM assured everyone that Cole is not a coward…and neither is Lawler. That’s why, even though Lawler’s body isn’t fully recovered, The Miz and Alex Riley will take on the team of Jerry “The King” Lawler and Randy Orton. So now we know the GM is Cole’s mom.

-Backstage, Punk said McGillicutty passed his test. He was talking to the rest of Nexus. Harris was next and his initiation was to take three lashes from a belt from the other Nexus members. Harris accepted, then turned his back to get lashed. Punk whispered in Harris’ ear to take his shirt off. Otunga was up first, then Gabriel, then Slater. Harris ended up on his knees, so Punk ordered the other Nexus members to get him up. Punk then lashed him several times. “This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen,” said Lawler. Again, that covers SO much ground.

[Commercial Break]

(2) Daniel Bryan & Mark Henry vs. Ted DiBiase & Tyson Kidd
I believe this is a rematch from WWE Superstars, though the announcers didn’t mention it. Both teams were already in the ring. DiBiase got the better of Bryan, then tagged out to Kidd. The Bellas were at ringside with Bryan. DiBiase again tagged in and locked in a rear chinlock. Bryan worked out and hit a running clothesline. Henry tagged in but missed a splash on Kidd. No Jackson Andrews to be seen. Attempted double-team by the heels did not work. World’s Strongest Slam did.

Winners: Henry and Bryan, at 2:43. Still not sure what the deal is with Kidd’s status. And Henry’s for that matter.

-They plugged the Miz & Riley vs. Lawler & Orton tag match, still to come.

-Big Show is here…we’ll find out why next.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole talked about NXT being available On Demand on Hulu and Youtube, and of course, airing on WWE.com every Tuesday at 10pm.

-The Big Show came out. Show said it was great to be back on Raw, and thanked the GM for allowing him to address some issues. First up, Wade Barrett. He said Barrett got knocked out of Nexus and next week, he’s going to knock Barrett out. Second was the Royal Rumble. Show put everyone on notice that he’s going to win and go on to main event Wrestlemania. Nexus walked out…I have a feeling someone’s initiation is to attack Show. Punk looked at Otunga and he walked to the ring alone. He looked back once he got near the ring, but no one budged. Otunga got into the ring and Show told him to wait. Instead, Otunga slapped Show in the head. Otunga then braced himself for a slap from Show. Instead, Show kicked him and Show threw him out of the ring. He tossed Otunga over the announce table, then chopped him on the table. Otunga’s shirt was ripped and it looked like he was mauled by a bear. Bodyslam for Otunga no the arena floor. Next, Otunga met the steel steps. “Knock him out” chant from the fans. In the middle of the ring, Show chokeslammed him. He sat Otunga up and gave him the knockout punch. It’d be funny if this was actually Heath Slater’s initiation, in that he couldn’t help Otunga. Then Otunga had to go through another one later.

-We’ll hear from John Cena later on.

-Also slated for tonight: Sheamus vs. John Morrison.

[Commercial Break]

- As John Morrison came to the ring for his match, they showed a highlight package of his match with The Miz from last week.

(3) John Morrison vs. Sheamus
Sheamus backed Morrison into the corner and gave him a shot to the gut. Knee-lift in the same area felled Morrison. Couple knee-drops to the mid-section, then a gut-buster. I’m seeing a pattern. Lawler referred to the general manager, saying “there’s only one reason he booked this match.” Weird hearing them say that on Raw. Sheamus continued his beating as the fans didn’t react at all until Sheamus posed. Back elbow found the mark. Another knee-lift, but Morrison rolled him up for two. He attempted a backslide, but Sheamus was too strong. Couple clotheslines, then a jumping heel kick. Sheamus kicked Morrison in the knee when Morrison had him in the corner. Flip kick by Morrison as Sheamus tried to pick him up. He set up for the Starship Pain, but Sheamus got up and pushed Morrison off the ropes and out of the ring. They took a break here.

[Commercial Break]

Sheamus continued to dole out the punishment out of break. Morrison worked out of a potential submission hold, with the help of the WWE Universe. He fired away at Sheamus with kicks and fists in the corner. Sheamus missed a corner charge, but no one was home on the Flash Kick. Sheamus ran at Morrison, but the Irishman got low bridged. Morrison tried to catapult himself over the top and onto Sheamus, but Sheamus got a knee up and he connected with Morrison’s ribs. He then dropped Morrison ribs-first onto the steel steps. Back in the ring, Sheamus lined up for a Brogue Kick, but Morrison simply fell to the mat in pain. Both men were on the top rope, and Morrison brought Sheamus down face-first on the ring post. Morrison gave a running knee to Sheamus’ face, then made the cover and got the pin.

Winner: Morrison, at 12:06. Good enough match, showing off Morrison’s ability to use any part of the ring for offense, while also making Sheamus look dominant.

-Tonight, John Cena will address the actions of the new Nexus. Lawler warned fans to say no to any group that may require initiation, then they showed the Nexus initiations thus far.

-Punk was backstage and said all McGillicutty, Harris and Otunga are all in. Punk was holding kendo sticks and assured Gabriel and Slater that he wasn’t going to hit them with kendo sticks. They were going to hit each other, until he tells them to stop. They both cocked the kendo sticks and started breathing heavily. Punk said he expects home runs from all his soldiers, so swing for the fences. Neither man could do it, so Punk yelled at them. They began to eye Punk instead, and the crowd roared. Punk closed his eyes and told them to hit him. Neither did. Instead, they dropped the kendo sticks and walked out.

-The first inductee into the WWE Hall-of-Fame Class of 2011 is next.

[Commercial Break]

-They showed the inside of a bar across the street from the arena as Cole plugged the tag main event.

-Jerry Lawler was in the ring. He said the greatest accomplishment of his career was getting inducted into the WWE Hall-of-Fame. He said less than 100 of all those who have wrestled, have been inducted into the WWE H.O.F. Lawler said the first inductee into the WWE H.O.F. class of 2011 has earned the respect of each of the fans. It was indeed Shawn Michaels. Nice music video for the induction too. No announcement on who would induct him…I’d guess Triple H. Or does HBK get his way and have Bret Hart?

Michaels’ music then played, and he came out to the live crowd. Huh. He was wearing a camo skull cap. They had his fireworks and everything. The announcers were shown giving HBK a standing ovation. In the ring, Michaels soaked up the cheers, then took the microphone. Someone started chanting “one more match,” and Shawn put his finger to his lips as if to shush him. Before he could speak, Alberto Del Rio came out. Lots of heat for that. Del Rio said Michaels is no longer the icon, the showstopper. He said the fans used to cheer HBK, but now they cheer him. That received boos, of course. Del Rio said people know he is the present and future of WWE, while Michaels is history. He said that when he wins the WWE or World Heavyweight Title at WM, he will be known as the new Mr. Wrestlemania. He bent over and Michaels superkicked him out of nowhere. Del Rio sold it perfectly. HBK posed as his music played. He took Del Rio’s scarf and put it around his neck, then left the ring. The camera stayed on with him as he hob-knobbed with fans in the aisle.

-Miz and Alex Riley vs. The King and Randy Orton is the main event tonight.

[Commercial Break]

-Miz was backstage admiring his WWE Title while Alex Riley was ranting to him about opportunity. Riley asked what was the matter with Miz. Miz said that in two weeks’ time, he has to face Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble. He said people should be talking about him, not Orton. He said people are talking as if Orton is a shoo-in to win the title at the Rumble. He said he’s still not getting respect, and in their match tonight, he wants to demoralize and hurt Orton and King. Riley was about to say Miz’s catchphrase but Miz stopped him and said catchphrases are for closers. Great Glengarry Glen Ross reference.

-Michael Cole was in the ring, talking about John Cena being soon to address the fans. CM Punk interrupted him, but you couldn’t see where he was. Punk said he was at the top of the TitanTron. I’m getting flashbacks of drunk Hawk. Punk said the talk of Cena is over and tonight is Punk’s night. He said he is prepared to initiate himself into Nexus as well. I believe Josh Mathews was on commentary, telling Punk, “don’t do it.” Punk said that he’s making the ultimate sacrifice, proving that not only was he a member of Nexus, but he was their leader. He appeared to get emotional and asked the fans if he should dive off the Tron and break every bone in his body. The fans cheered. Punk stood with his arms outstretched and said there’s one more question he has: Exactly how gullible are all the people? He showed that he was wearing a harness. Punk had two guys spotting him atop the Tron as well. He said Nashville has been initiated. Harris, McGillicutty and Otunga all walked to the ring, showing their various injuries. A replay showed how they got them. After the videos, Punk was back on the arena floor, and he walked to the ring.

Punk got the mic and said if anyone believe he was going to jump, they’re stupid. He said that someone who would do such a rash thing is mentally challenged, unlike he, who is mentally superior. He said he doesn’t need the fans’ approval or initiations…he’s the leader of the new Nexus. He waited ‘til a “Cena” chant picked up steam and said Cena is no longer here, that he got rid of him. But Cena started talking on the TitanTron, live via satellite. Cena said Punk is gutless and threw a bunch of other negative adjectives at Punk, saying he’s also wasting everyone’s time. Cena asked why he even bothered to initiate Nexus when he already beat them all down. Well, not all of them, as he hasn’t gotten to the newest member, CM Sucks, yet. Cena asked for a match with Punk next week. Punk accepted. Cena said all the things Punk has said about him is right…if provoked, he is one of the most animalistic, violent people on the planet. And next week, Punk will get dealt with. Next week, it’s about Cena whopping Punk’s ass.

-Next, Lawler and Orton vs. Miz and Riley.

[Commercial Break]

(4) Alex Riley & The Miz vs. Jerry “The King” Lawler & Randy Orton
Match started at 10:59 EST. Miz took down Lawler, but Lawler fired back with a punch and unloaded with more rights to the brain of Miz. King chased Miz around ringside and bounced his head off the announce table a few times. He then tossed Miz into the steel steps. Orton and Riley then came in and Orton pounded away on Miz’s apprentice. It was all Orton on Riley, as the heel team couldn’t seem to get out of the gate. Back to Lawler and Miz. Lawler had the advantage, but Miz booted him in the face when the ref intervened. Snap mare out of the corner, into a rear chinlock. Lawler fought out but took a corner clothesline for his troubles. They took the last break at 11:04. Good, because they had me thinking I missed one somewhere along the way.

[Commercial Break]

Lawler and Riley were exchanging blows in the middle of the ring, but Riley then missed a running shoulder in the corner, connecting with the post instead. Both men tried to make tags. Miz got in and the ref didn’t see the Ortno tag. Miz came in and dragged Riley and Lawler to his corner, then took out Orton on the opposite side. The ref tried to get Riley to the corner as Miz was the legal man, allowing Orton to run in and RKO Miz. Lawler went for the cover, but Riley broke it up. Riley tagged in, but so did Lawler. Scoop slam and a beauty from Randy. Back-breaker by Orton, then he caught Riley and gave him the vintage Orton DDT. He set up for the RKO, but Miz snuck in. Orton saw him sneaking in, so Miz slowly exited. Riley got up and went from behind Orton, but Orton RKO’d him anyway. He kept his eye on Miz, then tagged King. He went to the middle rope and took the strap down. Orton stayed in the ring staring at Miz and the ref let him. Lawler hit the fist-drop and got the pin, all while the illegal man was still in the ring.

Winners: Lawler and Orton, at 11:21.

-The announcers plugged Punk vs. Cena next week.

-Back to the ring, Orton and Miz stared at each other as Miz walked up the ramp with his title.
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Starting the show with a tag title match? That's a good one. I would have been more surprised if they HAD gone through with the match. But we can't start Raw without our 15-minute promo segment. The fans DEMAND IT!

Cole, please shut up. You've already ruined Miz for me. I'm begging you, PLEASE don't ruin Alberto Del Rio for me. That commentary during the ADR/R-Truth match was just brutal. Having said that, Del Rio was great tonight. And MAN, what a sell job on Sweet Chin Music!

The footage of Punk wiping out Cena is so much cooler with Ricardo Rodriguez's "La Cucaracha" playing in the background.

So much for Jackson Andrews. Looks like he's already been sent packing. And since we haven't seen him around in weeks, I'm guessing David Hart Smith is next.

The Punk/Nexus stuff was...bizarre. And why did they keep referring to Punk as the "soon-to-be new leader"? Isn't he ALREADY the new leader? It's not like Wade Barrett's walking through that door anytime soon.

Was anyone else waiting for Punk to end his TitanTron segment with "You've all been Punk'd!"

Best part of Cena's promo: Pointing out that the Nexus was pantsless and watching Punk actually look back and CHECK.

So what happens to Slater and Gabriel now? Do they just move along and fall into the shuffle? Do they join Barrett on SmackDown? More importantly, is anyone replacing them? Does this mean the return of TITUS O'NEIL AND LUCKY CANNON?

Can anyone remember a show in recent memory that hasn't had a women's match? This is the first one I can think of.




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I'm guessing that Slater and Gabriel get moved to Smackdown and join up with Barrett. They credited Barrett last week for their tag title reign. The more Sheamus jobs the less I think HHH is coming back to feud with him. The Nexus stuff was definitely weird. It felt like a placeholder show with Raw going against the BCS. I was hoping to get a Kidd-Bryan feud but Kidd just jobbed to Mark Henry and jobbed the last time he was on Raw. This was not a strong show, imo.

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You have to give The WWE credit: Anytime you can beat down your Tag Champs, making the titles irrelevant and have a retiree embarrass one of your younger stars with one kick, you gotta do it.



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#5 Posted on
    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    You have to give The WWE credit: Anytime you can beat down your Tag Champs, making the titles irrelevant and have a retiree embarrass one of your younger stars with one kick, you gotta do it.


The Santino/Kozlov beatdown was pretty egregious, but c'mon, Michaels superkicking Del Rio was classic. The mouthy heel gets his comeuppance, that's wrestling 101

ADR interfering in the Michaels announcement was intriguing. Could this actually be the start of a Wrestlemania angle? Like, an angry Del Rio challenges HBK at Mania, with the caveat being that if Michaels loses, he can never be inducted into the HOF?
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#6 Posted on
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      You have to give The WWE credit: Anytime you can beat down your Tag Champs, making the titles irrelevant and have a retiree embarrass one of your younger stars with one kick, you gotta do it.


    The Santino/Kozlov beatdown was pretty egregious, but c'mon, Michaels superkicking Del Rio was classic. The mouthy heel gets his comeuppance, that's wrestling 101

    ADR interfering in the Michaels announcement was intriguing. Could this actually be the start of a Wrestlemania angle? Like, an angry Del Rio challenges HBK at Mania, with the caveat being that if Michaels loses, he can never be inducted into the HOF?


Uhhh, the HOF induction is the night *before* Wrestlemania.
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Well in the city that was THE home base for World Championship Wrestling, it is only fitting that the headlining inductee into the Hall of Fame is none other than Mr. WWE himself Shawn Michaels.

So much for Sting or Arn.




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    I'm guessing that Slater and Gabriel get moved to Smackdown and join up with Barrett. They credited Barrett last week for their tag title reign.


Nah. GM will ban Nexus from the Cena/Punk next week, which conveniently allows the two guys who 'aren't in Nexus anymore' to interfere. And then they're back!

This show felt like they were well aware there was a football game of significant important elsewhere and they might as well not try anything too vital. Mostly just entertaining themselves. Ricardo Rodriguez painfully singing La Cucaracha was a great example - amusing, but shouldn't there have been some sort of payoff for the bit happening?

I know the Royal Rumble is in two weeks, because they keep telling me this, but I'm not sure they know the Royal Rumble match is in two weeks because no one but Alberto Del Rio appears to be in it so far. I like his chances!



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    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      I'm guessing that Slater and Gabriel get moved to Smackdown and join up with Barrett. They credited Barrett last week for their tag title reign.


    Nah. GM will ban Nexus from the Cena/Punk next week, which conveniently allows the two guys who 'aren't in Nexus anymore' to interfere. And then they're back!



I was actually expecting a Shocking Swerve!!! where the people inducted were the guys smart enough NOT to subject themselves to the initiation -- just like CM Punk was smart enough to not jump off the Titan Tron.
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I know the Royal Rumble is in two weeks, because they keep telling me this, but I'm not sure they know the Royal Rumble match is in two weeks because no one but Alberto Del Rio appears to be in it so far. I like his chances!
I believe Big Show is serious this time.



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Tyson Kidd challenges Daniel Bryan, Mark Henry beats Tyson Kidd, Tyson Kidd pins Daniel Bryan, Mark Henry beats Tyson Kidd. I feel like different people have different visions of what should be going on here.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      I'm guessing that Slater and Gabriel get moved to Smackdown and join up with Barrett. They credited Barrett last week for their tag title reign.


    Nah. GM will ban Nexus from the Cena/Punk next week, which conveniently allows the two guys who 'aren't in Nexus anymore' to interfere. And then they're back!


Last week we are brothers in smart. This week we part ways. "The New Nexus" (and their soon-to-be leader) was said way too many times to not be getting The Original Nexus (or Vintage Nexus) on Smackdown with Gabriel, Slater, and Sheffield after they run in and lay out Big Show.


    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      You have to give The WWE credit: Anytime you can beat down your Tag Champs, making the titles irrelevant and have a retiree embarrass one of your younger stars with one kick, you gotta do it.


    The Santino/Kozlov beatdown was pretty egregious, but c'mon, Michaels superkicking Del Rio was classic. The mouthy heel gets his comeuppance, that's wrestling 101


The tag titles are on Santino and Kozlov to begin with so I don't think they're capable of being buried. I think they think Michaels kicking Alberto gives him a rub; it's a spot for arrogant men to get whacked.


    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    Well in the city that was THE home base for World Championship Wrestling, it is only fitting that the headlining inductee into the Hall of Fame is none other than Mr. WWE himself Shawn Michaels.

    So much for Sting or Arn.


They do induct more than one person, and I don't think Arn Anderson was going to headline. Arn is in for sure. The Observer says there are "said to be 3 big ones that deals have been worked out for." Sting and Goldberg are the first names that pop into my head; at least one of the two seems probable. I think Shawn came back to TV now because he's going to do a Wrestlemania angle, plus HOF tickets go on sale this week so they wanted to have the biggest star announced.

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    Starting the show with a tag title match? That's a good one. I would have been more surprised if they HAD gone through with the match. But we can't start Raw without our 15-minute promo segment. The fans DEMAND IT!

I'm not seeing the problem here. Punk on the mic to start the show is infinitely better than anything involving Santino/Kozlov.

Also, gotta love Lawler complaining about Punk initiating the Nexus members, and saying how any group that requires an initiation like that is a group you don't want to belong to. I guess nobody in the WWE (or WCW, or any other promotion) had to go through hazing rituals when they were new to the company and/or rookies coming up and/or being trained, right?



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    Originally posted by It's False
    Can anyone remember a show in recent memory that hasn't had a women's match? This is the first one I can think of.


Judging from Natalya's twitter posts, it looks like her and Melina were supposed to have something happen tonight, but it probably got cut for time.

The whole Lawler harping about hazing seemed so forced, especially for a company that seems to love it in real life. Did something happen in the news that they're latching onto to stay relevant that I missed?
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I thought the entire show was a bit off and the back of my mind, I was hoping they weren't referring to anything recent events. The rest of the show went was pretty good. An angry Big Show is a good Big Show and I do think he could be a legit winner or someone who can go after Taker. I am ok with Shawn taking out Del Rio mainly due Del Rio not being close to the same level as Shawn and it stopped another weepy HBK promo. Didn't like the song they used for Shawn's promo either. Interesting how they brought out Shawn during Halftime, thought that may have helped pop a rating they needed. If people want to bitch about old wrestlers going over young ones, I think Lawler is exhibit A. I also think the brand split is close to being over with all the interactions over the last few weeks. Not a terrible show, but not a good one either.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    "The New Nexus" (and their soon-to-be leader) was said way too many times to not be getting The Original Nexus (or Vintage Nexus) on Smackdown with Gabriel, Slater, and Sheffield after they run in and lay out Big Show.


If this is right, CM Punk is a horrible cult leader.

Slater > McGillicutty (a less charismatic Ted Dibase Jr.)
Gabriel > Husky
Sheffield > Otunga

Wait, let's do that again:

Mercury > McGillicutty
Gallows > Husky
Serena > Otunga

I have more faith in Punk than that.

    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    Judging from Natalya's twitter posts, it looks like her and Melina were supposed to have something happen tonight, but it probably got cut for time.

    The whole Lawler harping about hazing seemed so forced, especially for a company that seems to love it in real life. Did something happen in the news that they're latching onto to stay relevant that I missed?


The Big Show segment was added after the SmackDown house show was canceled. Meltzer says the show was rewritten late.

Lawler (and Josh) decrying hazing was probably all about marketing to kids. They rather go over the top pointing out what a bad idea it all was than open themselves for complaints.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Good things on the show:
Del Rio took a terrific superkick, accented perfectly with the scarf falling over his face. I was convinced that all the talk about him being a big thing pretty quick meant he was either going to win the Rumble or Elimination Chamber - Del Rio/Edge still seems like the most likely SD title match for Wrestlemania, if not a Del Rio vs. Edge vs. Misterio vs. Christian match - but I could see them doing HBK vs. Del Rio as an excuse to have Michaels try to spruce the card up a little. Not sure what Del Rio gets out of losing that match, though.

Otunga's beatdown from Show was the best thing he's been involved with so far.

I liked the finish of Morrison/Sheamus (who work very well together), assuming the camera missing Morrison fall was a directing mistake and not an in-ring mistake they covered up. Morrison needed that win a lot more than Sheamus, too, so good for them for doing the right finish in a place where they normally tend to do the wrong one.

Bad things from the show:
Pretty much everything with Nexus. I think Punk has been, far and away, the best guy on either show, but this is doing nothing for him right now. He was credible enough to be a solo threat for Cena and more than capable of selling a feud with him on his own. The weirdo cult leader things that worked so well in the early part of the Straight Edge Society are all failing here, though. McGillicutty getting carried out in a crucified pose was hokey, as was the beatdown on Husky, and that Titantron bit went on forever with no payoff, not to mention having him re-explain the harness thing when he got down.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan

    Mercury > McGillicutty
    Gallows > Husky
    Serena > Otunga



Yeah, this was my exact thought - by getting rid of the two best workers among the other guys and slimming the numbers down, Nexus has turned into a really shitty SXE. Husky and Otunga certainly try, but neither of them bring what Serena did to the table.

Fantasy booking and all that, but by the end of Punk's rambling stuff on top of the 'tron, I was starting to hope that the point of the whole night was that he would re-show the first Nexus attack, when Cena threw Punk to the Nexus to take a beating and then Punk trying and failing to save Cena anyway, as a way to have him show that he's better than Cena as a person. And that, in two weeks, he did everything Cena failed to do for about a half year: infiltrated Nexus, beat them from within, got them to turn on each other or quit and drove Wade Barrett off Raw. Would have been a great payoff to the start whole angle, filled in the background on why Punk is specifically anti-Cena and provided Punk with a pretty strong way to sell his "I'm better than you, Cena" routine. Plus, Punk without the three worst members of Nexus isn't much less of a threat than with them.

Alternately, I would have been equally happy if McGillicutty's initiation would have been Punk making him re-cut his NXT2 Finale promo in front of everyone. Surely that would be the ultimate sacrifice over taking some finishers.
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#17 Posted on
    Originally posted by It's False
    Starting the show with a tag title match? That's a good one. I would have been more surprised if they HAD gone through with the match. But we can't start Raw without our 15-minute promo segment. The fans DEMAND IT!


Not to nitpick or anything but they did start Raw with a darn good (and long) match last week.
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#18 Posted on
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      You have to give The WWE credit: Anytime you can beat down your Tag Champs, making the titles irrelevant and have a retiree embarrass one of your younger stars with one kick, you gotta do it.


    The Santino/Kozlov beatdown was pretty egregious, but c'mon, Michaels superkicking Del Rio was classic. The mouthy heel gets his comeuppance, that's wrestling 101

    ADR interfering in the Michaels announcement was intriguing. Could this actually be the start of a Wrestlemania angle? Like, an angry Del Rio challenges HBK at Mania, with the caveat being that if Michaels loses, he can never be inducted into the HOF?


Michaels has been pretty adament about not coming back (even going as far as to criticize Flair for coming back), so it would be weird that he would go back on his word so quickly. Also, I would kinda like the WWE to move on from guys like him, Undertaker, Kane etc... and fully give the spotlight to the younger guys. I might not be a fan of this generation of superstars or whatever the hell they are calling them, but you might as well let them sink or swim (not like it's going to hurt buyrates). I just get the feeling if there is a Michaels/Del Rio match, it will just end with Michaels going over and everyone rushing to say that Del Rio "got the rub" jobbing to him and then 2 yrs later, he's still stuck in the same spot.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    Well in the city that was THE home base for World Championship Wrestling, it is only fitting that the headlining inductee into the Hall of Fame is none other than Mr. WWE himself Shawn Michaels.

    So much for Sting or Arn.


Has WWE ever treated WCW with even the bare minimum of respect?



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#20 Posted on
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by BoromirMark
      Well in the city that was THE home base for World Championship Wrestling, it is only fitting that the headlining inductee into the Hall of Fame is none other than Mr. WWE himself Shawn Michaels.

      So much for Sting or Arn.


    Has WWE ever treated WCW with even the bare minimum of respect?


To the victor goes the spoils. I can't blame them for wanting to headline with their own guy.

I thought Wade Barrett's character was going to take a huge hit with new Nexus, but I like him more and more as the weeks go by. I understand why he has to go to Smackdown, but I'm going to miss seeing him so often.

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