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TONIGHT: John Morrison challenges The Miz for the WWE Title in a Falls Count Anywhere Match on the first Raw of 2011. Now that we’re into January, we may start to get some Royal Rumble qualifying matches, too. And, what’ll be the follow-up for what appears to be Nexus’ new leader, CM Punk?

-WWE Open.

-The show opened with a video package of last week’s Nexus attack on John Cena, and the subsequent reveal of CM Punk as new leader of the group.

-They showed Michael Cole on camera, who said John Cena will likely not be on the show tonight due to last week’s attack, and an injury suffered last week at a show in Pennsylvania. Cole also mentioned Punk now being part of Nexus. He said rarely is the WWE Title defended on Raw, but it’ll be the first match of the new year, right here on Monday Night Raw. Well, that was different.

-Raw Open.

-Fireworks blasted inside the arena in Phoenix, Arizona. Right after, they went to ring announcer Justin Roberts.

(1) The Miz vs. John Morrison- Falls Count Anywhere Match for the WWE Championship
Jerry Lawler was not at the broadcast table due to the attack by The Miz last week. They showed clips of it and then Cole welcomed in Josh Mathews. That must’ve been a weird first six minutes for Mathews, having to sit there in silence. No in-ring introductions for this one, and it became apparent why, when Miz attacked Morrison during Morrison’s entrance. First pinfall attempt on the ramp got two for the #1 contender. Alex Riley got involved early and often, but Morrison was able to keep him at bay. He sent Riley’s head hart into the WWE logo on the ramp. Morrison climbed to the top of the logo and took out both men with a cross-body. That got him a near-fall. Morrison brought Miz back to ringside and tossed him into the squared circle. Back elbow by Miz for two. To the top rope, Miz looked for a superplex, but Morrison sent him down. Missile dropkick for two by the challenger. Quick roll-up for two. Flash kick by Morrison. Running knee to the face, but riley re-appeared and pulled Morrison out of the ring. He paid for it, as Morrison threw him into the barricade, then hammered away with rights. He set Riley up on the barricade, then gave him a knee to the face, sending Riley back crashing down. Referee Mike Chioda called for some medical attention for Riley. Miz seemed shell-shocked in the ring as Morrison paced outside. They went to break about 6:00 in.

[Commercial Break]

Back with Miz setting up a steel barricade against the side of the entrance ramp. He tried to suplex Morrison onto it, but Morrison countered and tried a suplex of his own. He couldn’t, and Miz ended up back-dropping Morrison onto the guardrail- with Morrison’s feet taking the brunt of the blow. That got two. Miz slammed Morrison’s chest off the top of the ramp. Near-fall registered. With the return of Tough Enough, I’m surprised WWE isn’t billing this as a WWE Title match between two former Tough Enough competitors. Miz flipped Morrison onto the steel ramp and again got a two-count. Miz took a plastic box for containing the camera cables and nailed Morrison with it. Miz was feeling it, taunting Morrison with his words (and kicks). Morrison came back with kicks and punches that put Miz on rubber leg street. Morrison with a couple clotheslines and a spinning heel kick for two. Russian leg sweep just past the 13:00 mark. Miz rolled out of the way during a Starship Pain attempt. Neck-breaker combo by Miz for two, even though Cole was convinced it was over. Morrison countered a Skull Crushing Finale and Miz rammed his shoulder into the ring post. Another Starship Pain try, this one connected. He paused in pain, and that allowed Miz to kick out at 2 ½. At 15:00, Morrison set up for his running knee, but missed. Miz rolled him up for two. Pele-like kick by Morrison sent Miz to the outside. He set Miz up on a table on the outside and went for Starship Pain off the top rope. Miz moved and Morrison went through the table. One, two….kick out? Holy cow. Miz picked Morrison off the ground and gave him the Skull Crushing Finale on the floor. That was the finish.

Winner: Miz, at 17:24. Match of the year so far, no doubt.

They replayed a few high points of the match.

-We’ll find out The Miz’s Royal Rumble opponent in a #1 Contender’s Steel Cage match. Geez, enough stipulations already!

-The condition of John Cena will be updated later on tonight.

[Commercial Break]

-A number of Phoenix Suns, including Vince Carter, were shown at ringside.

-Scott Stanford (PPV pre-game host and new Superstars announcer) was backstage with The Miz. Miz defiantly said he’s still WWE Champion, and still awesome. He said he would go down as the best technical wrestler, the most rugged brawler, and the most must-see athlete in the company’s history. Miz said he was the Miz, and he’s…..awesome. Riley, at his side, finished the catchphrase with “awesome.”

-The announcers switched gears and discussed Melina’s heel turn, and we saw clips of it as well. Then, last week, Natalya slapped Melina herself.

-Melina, Maryse and Alicia Fox came out for a six-Divas tag match. It’s next.

[Commercial Break]

(2) Melina & Maryse & Alicia Fox vs. Natalya & Eve Torres & Brie Bella
Brie and Maryse brawled on the mat and under the bottom rope. Maryse went to ringside, where Brie chased after her. Maryse pulled her chest-first over the bottom rope and went for a pin, getting two. More choking from Maryse, who then kicked Brie out of the ring. She switched with Nikki, who for some reason was under the ring. And how did she know that was Brie who fell? I guess twins know that kind of stuff. Face-buster by Nikki, and Fox pulled her off on a pin attempt. Fox tagged in, as did Natalya. Snap mare by Nattie, then a dropkick to the back of the head. As she went for a Sharpshooter, Melina came in to distract. That allowed Fox to capitalize. It was only briefly though. Melina brought Natalya throat-first over the top rope. Fox tagged Melina, who got nailed with a clothesline. Eve then tagged in and gave Melina a neck-breaker for the win.

Winners: Natalya, Eve and Brie, at 2:44. So Eve pins the #1 contender in a tag match? That doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense. Don’t you want to keep Melina looking strong-ish?

[Commercial Break]

(3) The Usos vs. Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov
Tamina accompanied the tag champs to the ring. Kozlov slammed Jey quickly. Jimmy and Santino both tagged in after Kozlov again got the better of Jey. Off of a side headlock, Jimmy elbowed Santino down. Both Usos double-teamed Marella in the corner. Kozlov threw Jey around the ring again and headbutted his chest. Tag made as Jimmy came off the top with a tomahawk chop for a two-count. Kozlov was kept on the mat in a rest-hold. Kozlov managed a back-body drop, but Jey tagged in and stopped Vlad from making a tag. He finally kicked Uso off and Santino tagged in. He tagged Jey with rights, then hit his flying headbutt. Jimmy interfered to break up the pin. Kozlov got low-bridged and struggled MIGHTILY to go over the top. I mean, he tried two or three times to propel himself over and couldn’t. The Cobra was blocked and a Samoan drop was hit instead, allowing the Usos to win.

Winners: The Usos, at 3:54. People love Santino, but no one cared about the other three in that match.

After the match, Kozlov sent one of the Usos over the top rope, and Marella and Tamina gave a stereo Cobra to another.

-Cole said New York Times broke the news of Tough Enough returning. That’s odd wording…why would they make it sounded like Times had to dig for this story instead of WWE announcing it themselves? Cole said to go to WWE.com for more Tough Enough info.

-CM Punk was walking backstage…some information about what he’s up to is up next.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole plugged the Magnificent 11 for 2011 feature on WWE.com.

-CM Punk came out, near the top of the second hour. He wore the Nexus armband. Punk started out by saying how much he loved being in Phoenix, but people even booed that. Punk said he searched the backstage area during the day, looking for John Cena. But, he can’t see him. He even did the hand thing when he said it. Punk broke the news that Cena was not in the building because of him. He said he made an impact last week because he’s a man of his word. He said as a former champion, he’s a leader of men. He said that’s why Nexus begged him (emphasis on “begged”) to be their new leader. They showed clips of Nexus attacking Cena from last week, as well as Punk giving Cena the GTS. “Hustle, loyalty and respect!” shouted Punk. He said those are three words he lives his life by. “Cena” chants started up, and Punk said hustle, loyalty and respect for Cena is just a hollow catchphrase. Punk said he expects it out of himself, as well as members of Nexus. He told Cena to just stay at home, saying this was a fight Cena cannot win. Punk said he’s taking over Nexus, and taking over Monday Night Raw. The Nexus theme song played and Wade Barrett walked out.

Barrett said the reason Cena isn’t in the building has nothing to do with Punk; it’s because he destroyed Cena in their match this past week in Pennsylvania. Also, Punk isn’t the leader of Nexus…he is. Punk told Barrett to wake up and said Nexus needs new management. Barrett called Punk a hypocritical waste of skin. Barrett said Nexus dominated Raw under his leadership. Punk isn’t a leader, he’s a liar. He said he lied to all of John Cena’s flag-waving morons. Punk said they’ll find out in front of the world who the liar is and who’s telling the truth, by bringing out Nexus and having them answer. Nexus came down and entered the ring, standing between Punk and Barrett.

David Otunga got the mic and said that, with all due respect, both men make good points. Before he could get any further, the GM sent in his first e-mail of the night. Cole read his lines, then the e-mail. It stated that the three participants in the #1 Contender Steel Cage match tonight would be either Wade Barrett or CM Punk vs. King Sheamus vs. Randy Orton. Barrett said that as leader of Nexus, he’ll be the one taking the match. Wait, what did Barrett do to earn this shot? Punk said he didn’t want to fight Barrett, and if he has to fight him, he doesn’t want the spot. He said he prefers to talk things out. In fact, if Barrett wins the match, Punk will follow him as part of Nexus. But if Barrett loses, he’s out, leaving Punk to lead. Punk asked if they had a gentleman’s agreement on that, and Barrett shook on it. They went to a wide shot to show the steel cage over the ring as Cole plugged the match on the way to break.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole and Mathews talking on-camera about Lawler being at home recuperating from the attack perpetrated by Miz last week. Speaking of the devil, they showed highlights of the opening WWE Title match.

-Ricardo Rodriguez was introduced. No word on why Alberto Del Rio is on the show. Del Rio drove in on a 1966 Shelby Cobra. Del Rio had a mic and he was dressed to compete. Del Rio introduced himself and talked about his rich, Mexican heritage. He said his destiny is to be World Champion. He said he wanted to destroy everyone on Smackdown and his name will be emblazoned on the heart and mind of everyone in the WWE Universe. He talked about winning the Rumble and main-eventing Wrestlemania. Del Rio said the fans have no destiny, but he was interrupted by R-Truth’s rapping. Truth did his usual entrance. Cole said that at least Truth got rid of that crunk song. Truth said Del Rio’s only destiny is to go back where he came from. He said he was just the man to send him there. Before Del Rio could respond, Truth slapped him.

(4) Alberto Del Rio vs. R-Truth
Truth avoided a corner charge, then hit his trademark heel kick. He clotheslined Del Rio over the top rope and to the floor. He dove onto Del Rio, then they took a break less than a minute into the match.

[Commercial Break]

Del Rio was sucking wind out of break, but kicked Truth in the chest to begin his comeback. Single-arm DDT for a two-count. Del Rio began to work Truth’s arm, stepping on it and going for a pin. Truth tried to get the crowd into his comeback, but they weren’t having it. Truth couldn’t even jump in the corner due to the arm injury. Del Rio flipped Truth using the arm and again went back to working the extremity. Crowd got into Truth more during another rest-hold (though it sounded like they were getting on Del Rio more). Del Rio hit the ropes but Truth avoided Del Rio trying to jump on his back with Truth’s throat over the second rope (is there a name for that move?). Truth fired back with his offense and registered a two-count. Del Rio avoided the axe kick and pulled Truth’s arm/shoulder into the ring post. Cross-arm breaker on Truth. He stayed in the move for a while, but ended up tapping.

Winner: Del Rio, at 9:53. I could complain about the lax brand split rules, but more Del Rio is always OK with me.

-A #1 Contender’s Triple-Threat Steel Cage match is still to come, with Randy Orton taking on King Sheamus and Wade Barrett.

[Commercial Break]

-Nexus was standing backstage, listening to Barrett. He said they all think he’s the leader, and he made stars out of Otunga, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel. Gabriel said Barrett DID help them win the tag titles. Punk walked in and said he can speak for the rest of Nexus by wishing Barrett good luck. Barrett walked away and Punk shook every member of Nexus’ hand.

-Randy Orton was backstage with Scott Stanford. Stanford talked about last year, but Orton said the only thing that he remembers from last year is Miz cashing in his MITB opportunity on him. Orton said he was too nice last year, hesitating before kicking Chris Jericho in the skull, for example. Orton said nice guys finish last.

-The steel cage began to lower. The triple-threat match is next.

[Commercial Break]

-They again showed clips of the opening title match.

(5) King Sheamus vs. Wade Barrett vs. Randy Orton- Steel Cage Match for the #1 Contendership for the WWE Championship
Cole said there’s a possibility that John Cena will return to action next week in Nashville. First one to escape here wins. Not sure why there’s a ref in the ring, if those are the rules. Orton pounded away on Barrett and Sheamus tried to escape on the other side. Orton caught him and hammered away. He fired out of the corner with a clothesline on the Irishman. That allowed Barrett to boot Orton in the face. Orton escaped Wasteland and tried to escape the ring. The heels pulled Orton back in. Barrett and Sheamus took turns unloading with rage on Orton. Sheamus booted Orton in the corner while Barrett to climb out the other side. Sheamus stopped him and once back in, nailed Wade with a short clothesline. Sheamus tried to get the win, but Orton pulled him down. Clotheslines galore by Orton, who then planned to go through the door. Instead, he coiled for the RKO, but Barrett and Sheamus were on their feet. They all stared at each other as they went to break, 4:00 in.

[Commercial Break]

Orton was sitting atop the cage, a great visual for those flipping channels and finding it returning from break. Orton got over to the other side and his legs were dangling. Barrett came up and helped Sheamus pull Orton back in. Instead of trying to climb down themselves while they straddled the top of the cage, both heels went back into the ring to continue beating Orton up. Orton set up for his rope-assisted DDT, but had to stop and haul Barrett, who was trying to climb the cage, back in. Barrett was thrown into the cage and both he and Sheamus got set up for the DDT. It was all for naught, as Sheamus back-dropped Orton into the cage at 9:00. More double-teaming by the heels. Double suplex on Orton, so the two began to assault each other. Hard whip into the buckle and Sheamus took the Bret Hart chest-first bump. Barrett climbed up and Orton went to get him. Orton slipped, but was able to regroup and halt Barrett’s action. Orton superplexed Barrett off the top rope as Cole reset the show at 11:00. Orton went for an RKO but Sheamus grabbed him and gave him the Irish Curse back-breaker. Barrett’s face was thrown into the cage courtesy of Sheamus. Sheamus tried to sneak through the door, but Orton grabbed his foot and pulled him back in. Sheamus stomped on Orton and then tried to climb. Barrett pulled Sheamus down and tossed him into three sides of the steel. Orton got back to his feet and went after Barrett. Bossman slam by Barrett, who then tried to escape the cage. Sheamus climbed up to stop his opposition. Barrett came off the top, but missed with a knee. Orton came back and scoop slammed Sheamus. He did one to Barrett too and gave the Angle slam to Sheamus. Sheamus with a big boot. As Barrett began to climb, with a clear path to win, CM Punk came out. Punk climbed the cage and offered Barrett a hand. As Barrett grabbed Punk’s hand and Punk pulled him up, Punk pulled off Barrett’s Nexus armband and sent him back to the mat. Sheamus demanded the door be opened, then booted Barrett in the face. As Sheamus headed for the door, Orton surprised him with an RKO. Orton slowly walked out the door to win.

Winner: Orton, at 18:45.

They had a close-up on Orton’s face as the show faded out not long after the end of the match.


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That opener was a great match. I kept waiting for them to set up SOMETHING that would leave an opening for a rematch, but it never came. I can't believe they're actually going for another round of Miz/Orton, because God forbid we get something fresh for a PPV.

For someone that looked like such a brilliant leader for the last few months, Barrett sure looked like a dope tonight. That's such an amateur move to fall for something as blatantly obvious as Punk's hand of friendship. This Barrett face turn is going to go about as well as Orton's first face turn.

It's a really good thing the Rumble's coming up or Morrison and Sheamus would be left floating around aimlessly after tonight.

Did Matthews say "Randy Orton...said that nice guys...finish last" in tune with Orton's theme song? Did he mean to do that, because that sounded totally unintentional.




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CM Punk just pulled a Scar from the Lion King on Barrett, that bastard! I missed the World title match so I can't comment on it. Yeah Melina getting pinned by Eve made no sense considering she's getting a title match. With Barrett turning face I guess we're getting Kane-Undertaker at Wrestlemania, I can't wait!

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#4 Posted on
Both shows are low on faces currently (though tonight's show was missing a certain U.S. Champ) but Barrett is such a natural heel, one that the fans weren't begging to turn, why force this upon him? I love Heel Punk but I'd rather see him go face again than change Barrett at this point in his career.

Why did Barrett say that Punk wasn't true to his Straight Edge lifestyle? That kinda came outta left field and Punk didn't acknowledge that line.

Really good night of in-ring action though. No complaints about Miz/JoMo or Del Rio/R-Truth either.

Maybe they gave the NY Times credit for covering the Tough Enough announcement so they could brag about being covered by the NY Times?

    Originally posted by graves9
    CM Punk just pulled a Scar from the Lion King on Barrett, that bastard!


Punk killed Mufasa! But who does that make Simba? And are we going down this road of cartoon-WWE roster analogies again?



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Two very good PPV quality matches tonight.

The Barrett was seen weeks ago with his conclusive loss to John Cena. No way you could build him back up again as a heel. But I don't think it's going to play that well.

Steel cage matches are okay but you have to ignore any sense of reality in them.

I guess they didn't feel good about Morrison leading a PPV or being the #3 face on Raw. Back to the undercard son. But it was one hell of a match tonight.

And yea, Punk-Barrett didn't play off that well tonight.



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Looks like Melina is eating some punishment for that tweet about her breakup with Morrison over the weekend
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Looks like Melina is eating some punishment for that tweet about her breakup with Morrison over the weekend


The lovely couple's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

With that said, someone slap me silly if I ever use the term "BizzALLS".

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Regrettable lack of much time for Nikki Bella in that women's tag match. They pull the switch, and I'm all "here comes the awesome!", but then she quickly tags out & is hardly seen again. Boo. That's why the WWE needs Diva Tag belts. J-Sharp knows what I'm talking about.

You could have:
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AJ/Kaitlyn
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#9 Posted on
How many times has R-Truth come out to challenge someone only to lose? That's an odd thing to have someone do more than once.



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Wade Barrett is so alone now that even his once invincible hair gel gave up on him.



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This show felt a lot different than the last few months. The booking wasn't that far different, but the tone definitely was. They set the mood with Cole's cold open, and then spent the night far more serious than this current stretch. Cole did root for the Miz at points in the title match, but he was not doing the overbearing self promoting bit tonight - Josh & Cole debated strategy instead of snipping at each other.

It seemed to continue that way thru the show. Even the Santino segment was as much about Tamina's relationship with the Usos (and her mixed feelings after the match) more than the usual Santino comedy. They had decent plot developments with Orton's clear tease of a heel turn in his promo, and Nexus officially kicking out Barrett. Lots of weirdness in that one - John Cena spent has already spend more time off hurt than he did when he was fired, there was no way to explain how Barrett went from being dead by falling chairs to hurting Cena on a house show, and apparently Wade missed that part last when Otunga called Punk the new leader.

My WON-educated guess is tonight's finish wasn't meant to set up Barrett as a face going after Nexus, but more a write off him on Raw for the time being. SmackDown was heavily pushed as the end of Kane/Edge and Del Rio/Mysterio; they can get one new feud out of the winners, but really could use another guy for one of the losers to face and that show needs all the help it can get. Punk still has Cena to face, and it's way too soon to Cena & Barrett to team together happily.



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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    My WON-educated guess is tonight's finish wasn't meant to set up Barrett as a face going after Nexus, but more a write off him on Raw for the time being. SmackDown was heavily pushed as the end of Kane/Edge and Del Rio/Mysterio; they can get one new feud out of the winners, but really could use another guy for one of the losers to face and that show needs all the help it can get. Punk still has Cena to face, and it's way too soon to Cena & Barrett to team together happily.


Put me down for Barrett on Smackdown too. I don't know if he'll lead a ProtoNexus Yellow & Red with Sheffield and some loyalists or if he'll just be a mean man alone.

Something tells me that Orton/Miz will not be as good as Miz's match tonight.

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    Originally posted by SpSp
    Regrettable lack of much time for Nikki Bella in that women's tag match. They pull the switch, and I'm all "here comes the awesome!", but then she quickly tags out & is hardly seen again. Boo. That's why the WWE needs Diva Tag belts. J-Sharp knows what I'm talking about.


Nikki shined at the end when she waved bye-bye and said "sorry Melina!" with all kinds of swagger.
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The Morrison blow-off is either very good or very bad. Either they plan to do some star-making stuff with him in the Rumble itself, or they want the belt back on Orton to make sure 'Mania is good and stale. Unfortunately one of these things is far likelier than the other.
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I commented last week that we might be headed down a road that is not very good and tonight confirmed my fears. While Miz/Morrison obviously have great chemistry together, the WWE has once again shown it doesn't matter what the ring work looks like, they need establish stars at the PPVs. Orton/Miz may pull out a good match at the Rumble, but I would rather see Orton in the Rumble then have a title match on a PPV where people only care about one match: The Rumble. Morrison could be given these weeks leading to the Rumble to be seen as a legit contender instead of getting into the spot R-Truth has now of a guy who tries and fails. I am also not sure why they felt the need for Miz and Alberto to go over clean.

Wade should go to Smackdown, feud with Taker til Mania and then be given a title push in the summer. He is out of Nexus, so I doubt they will let him do another Nexus stable over there. Smackdown needs the help anyway. Speaking of which why not just go the three hours and end the brand split? Its gotten comical that people from each show just happen to randomly show up on the opposite show they are supposed to be on.

I also think if the lead-up for Mania is the rumored Punk/Orton and Miz/Cena, I find that a rather boring. Wade/Taker could be good, but without Nexus, we will finally see how Wade does without a net. I am guessing Vince is going to do everything in his power to add a big name celebrity or Brock or Batista heading into Mania. Without Taker/HBK or something like that, Mania will have no real big time match. Of course, this could all change to injury, but the Rumble is in Boston, so the Grimis will probably win that match and head to Mania to face Miz. I do think Cena/Orton would be a better match even though it means Miz will have to be dumped out of the picture.

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Cena/Orton is the worst idea in a long, sad line of bad WrestleMania ideas at this point. UT/Kane is still a fresher match-up than that, fer cryin' out loud.
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I guess they still have the character out with Barrett that only he knew the "true purpose" of Nexus that somehow involved attacking the Undertaker, and even though his cronies have abandoned him, he still answers to the person pulling the strings and will have unfinished business. If this leads to Barrett locking Undertaker in the Elimination Chamber and setting it on fire Wicker Man style to appease his druid masters as part of the build to Barrett/Undertaker at Wrestlemania, I'd OK with that.

Really enjoyed Miz/Morrison for what it was, more spectacle than match. Morrison did a surprisingly nice job wrestling "angry" considering his offense doesn't generally seem to play to that, and that random W flying off when he threw Riley into the bigger W was a cool visual. His running kicks/knees to the face help in that regard. The shellshocked look Miz gave before the first break nicely sold the idea that he'd gotten zero offense in against this guy, who seemed genuinely ready to kill him if need be. One of the best "let's go to commercial" set-ups they've done in a long time.

That was really too good of a match that felt too important (the cold open, the spots in it) to just dump Morrison now. My hope is they plan to pay off all this parkour master stuff by booking Morrison as the guy who can't be eliminated from the Rumble under conventional rules. I could see him, more than anybody before, hanging in the Rumble forever by exploiting the "both feet must touch the floor" thing and going from the ring to the desk/guardrail/one foot/both hands etc. and managing to get back in the ring. It'd be like a reversal of the Kane Spot in your typical Rumble.

No disrespect to the Miz/Morrison match, but the highlight of the entire show was the room where Orton was interviewed with the two paintings behind him. What was that supposed to be? Was Randy not actually staring off into space when the interview started, but lost in concentration appreciating another piece of fine art in front of him? I want to learn more about Randy Orton, patron of the arts.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.98
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Cena/Orton is the worst idea in a long, sad line of bad WrestleMania ideas at this point. UT/Kane is still a fresher match-up than that, fer cryin' out loud.


Well, to be fair, it has more to do with the big fight atmosphere I got when I was there at Old School Monday Night. The place was electric for it and if done well with no real face ala Warrior/Hogan or Rock/Austin II, it could be the BIG match at mania. The real problem I see in the rumor booking minus it being a rumor is how they are going to switch Cena and Orton with dealing with Nexus. To be honest, I would much rather see Punk/Cena at Mania, but I don't know how much more gas the Nexus tank has if they are already switching leaders.
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If they're putting the belt back on Orton, I could think of worse things to do than go all the way and do Orton/Morrison for the belt at WM.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by lotjx
    The real problem I see in the rumor booking minus it being a rumor is how they are going to switch Cena and Orton with dealing with Nexus.


Punk wins Rumble (if only because they like to needlessly complicate the title match builds now), Cena beats Punk for Wrestlemania shot at Elimination Chamber, Nexus shoots some kind of angle with Orton that costs him the Chamber and allows Miz to retain by the skin of his butt. Orton did mention Jericho out of the blue last night so maybe he can come back and cost him the title instead.


    I don't know how much more gas the Nexus tank has if they are already switching leaders.


Don't worry, the Nexus tank has a ferrari engine.

    Originally posted by Dr U
    No disrespect to the Miz/Morrison match, but the highlight of the entire show was the room where Orton was interviewed with the two paintings behind him. What was that supposed to be? Was Randy not actually staring off into space when the interview started, but lost in concentration appreciating another piece of fine art in front of him? I want to learn more about Randy Orton, patron of the arts.


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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    "It's abstract, Scott. Over here you've got some shapes. And then, you come over to this side. You know it's actually kind of interesting -- each shape is its own thing, but then when it comes together, it really gives you a sense of, completion. Hmm."
The only problem with this change in character direction is that Orton's first reaction to DJ Roomba would be to drop the ground, pound his fists and then punt it through a window.

I would figuratively kill for an angle where Zack Ryder wants to buy into a WWE-themed nightclub (possibly using left over pieces from WWF New York/The World), and the only investors he can get are Titus O'Neil, Curt Hawkins and Randy Orton.
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