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TONIGHT: Raw is overseas in the UK, so the show was taped earlier today. Without noting spoilers, WWE.com doesn’t really have anything about the show. So, that in mind, away we go!

-WWE Open.

-The show opened to little ballyhoo, as Justin Roberts introduced John Cena, on behalf of Nexus. He was already in the ring, behind a podium, scroll in hand. They were in Manchester, England, home of Nexus leader Wade Barrett. He was drowning Barrett in superlatives and told the fans to welcome him, though a vast majority still booed him. During Nexus’ entrance, Michael Cole and Josh Mathews were shown on camera; Jerry Lawler was not at the show due to a knee injury. Barrett commended Cena for the outstanding introduction. He even admitted he did write it for Cena. Barrett said they were going to have a celebration for him becoming champion at Survivor Series. “Cena” chants interrupted Barrett’s speech, but they were drowned out by boos. Before he got into his celebration, however, he wanted to touch on something that happened last week. They showed David Otunga getting pinned by Edge on Smackdown. Barrett asked Otunga to step forward. He told Otunga that next time he plans to undermine his authority, make sure he’s successful. Crowd chanted something I couldn’t pick up. He told Otunga to get back in line. Heh, he got off pretty easy. Next on the docket was Cena. Barrett aired the clip of Cena not seeing the tag between Otunga and Barrett, followed by the finish of the match. He asked Cena to explain himself, so he literally did, saying he rapped one time on a Thanksgiving episode of Smackdown, and the next thing he knew, he was wearing his hat backward, chains around his neck and was invisible.

Barrett was not amused. He reminded Cena of the stipulations at Survivor Series in Barrett’s match against Randy Orton. Cena said he’s glad Barrett is home in front of an appreciative crowd (boos!). Cena said at S.S., he’ll give Barrett and whoever else wants to interfere, a beating of a lifetime. Wade said they need to practice what’s going to happen immediately after his match at the PPV. He said there would be an announcement, and he wanted Cena to make it right now. “Whatever,” resigned Cena, but before he could make the proclamation, Orton’s music hit and the WWE Champ walked out to the stage. Orton told everyone in the ring that he’s still champion, and said he has no doubt that he can beat Barrett, regardless of the referee. He said he doesn’t car what happens to Cena, only making sure that Barrett never, ever, has the title. Barrett retorted that he has an army of men standing behind him at his beckon call, and no one behind Orton. The GM buzzed, and even the UK crowd hates the anonymous general manager, perhaps more than the American crowds. Even a “you suck” chant before Cole read the e-mail. The GM cancelled the Barrett celebration and said that in order to find a decisive winner, at Survivor Series, match must end in pinfall or submission. And, Nexus members are banned from ringside. For tonight though, Orton will have an army behind him as well. Team Barrett vs. Team Orton, ten-man tag match. Barrett has Nexus, Orton has members personally chosen by the GM. How about….Zack Ryder, Santino, Yoshi Tatsu, Goldust, and Primo? Oh, and John Cena is the special referee. That’s two weeks in a row now on Raw…talk about killing a PPV gimmick. Cena, pissed, shoved the podium down, then when Otunga stood up to him, he shoved Otunga down too, then walked out of the ring.

-Up next, Divas Cup tag match, with Eve and The Bellas taking on Maryse, Alicia Fox and Tamina. It’s a futbol themed match, but I’m not sure in what way.

[Commercial Break]

-The announcers plugged WWE.com.

(1) The Bella Twins & Eve Torres vs. Maryse & Alicia Fox & Tamina – Divas Cup Match
The faces wore Man U. shirts, and were booed. They were dressed as soccer players. The heels dressed as the Liverpool team. Mathews kept hating on soccer. Eve and Tamina started things off, with Tamina landing a Samoan drop for two. A graphic for next week’s Monday Night Raw being Old School themed (with the block logo) was shown. Maryse tagged in and had her way with Eve. She toyed with Eve and applied a rear chinlock. Enziguiri by Torres on Maryse, and both women were down. Tags made and Fox was dropkicked a few times by one of the Bella Twins. Face-buster by the Bella for two. Tamina broke it up and got dropkicked for her troubles. The ref blocked the other Bella from interfering, allowing Maryse to plant the legal Bella with a DDT. The ref ushered her out, and the Bellas pulled a switch. Fox was rolled up and the Bellas and Eve won.

Winners: Eve and the Bellas, at 3:09. I’ve seen worse. Faint praise, I know. The fans hated both teams the ladies were dressed as, so they weren’t into it.

-Nexus was backstage and Otunga was giving a pep talk to Nexus sans Barrett, about Cena trying to “punk” them earlier. Barrett walked in and told Otunga to step it up tonight. But not with the rest of Nexus- he has his own singles match tonight, and it’s against Cena. After all, Barrett reminded Otunga that he said he was the most talented member of Nexus, so tonight he’ll have to prove it. After Barrett left, the other members of Nexus walked out from behind Otunga, leaving him alone.

[Commercial Break]

(2) The Hart Dynasty vs. The Usos
David Hart Smith and Jimmy Uso began the match. Jey was knocked off the apron by Smith early on. The Usos both ended up at ringside and Tyson Kidd somersaulted over the top and onto one of the Usos, who caught him, and Kidd took him down with a headscissors. Elbowdrop by Kidd missed, and the Usos cornered him. Kidd kicked out on a pin attempt, but Jey did a run into a chinlock. Middle-rope splash missed as D.H. Smith argued with Natalya outside the ring. He got back up onto the apron to make the tag, and he cleaned house on Jimmy. Belly-to-belly throw for two. He set Jimmy up for a powerslam and landed it. Jimmy interfered to break it up and he was deposited to ringside. Kidd missed a dive outside the ring and Jimmy kicked him in the jaw. Kick inside the ring on Smith and a splash ended things.

Winners: The Usos, at 3:38. I don’t mind the slow burn with the Harts break-up, but the fact that something happens EVERY match to get them at each other’s throats may be a bit far-fetched.

-Tea Time with Santino and his special guest, Sheamus, is still to come…

-…as is Cena vs. Otunga.

[Commercial Break]

-Matt Striker was backstage handling interview duties with Josh Mathews at ringside. He asked Orton if he had any thoughts on the GM picking his partners. Orton said he could say he doesn’t care, but he does, since he’s taking on Nexus. So his team better be the best of the best. The Miz walked into frame and said he’s one of Orton’s partners. And right now, his team is Awesome.

-The announcers were shown on-camera and discussed Cena vs. Otunga and Nexus vs. Team Orton.

-Backstage, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel were admiring themesleves in their newly-won tag belts, and Husky Harris and Michael McGillicutty were talking. Otunga walked in and asked them how it was going. They were all silent. Otunga promised that he’d beat Cena, and he hoped they’d all have his back tonight. Gabriel asked if Barrett knew about this. Otunga said he doesn’t need Barrett’s permission. Remember it’s Nexus or you’re against us, and they’re Nexus. He said he’d see them out there.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Goldust vs. Ted DiBiase
DiBiase slapped Goldust when he tried to do his heavy breathing. He turned the tide with a hip-toss, then an arm-drag and a clothesline that sent DiBiase over the top rope. Inverted atomic drop, but DiBiase landed his boomerang-type clothesline. Goldust hit the ropes and was put down with a back elbow. Goldust tried to make a comeback, but DiBiase kept him at bay. Neck-breaker by DiBiase for a near-fall. Maryse took the Million Dollar Belt as Goldust nailed an uppercut and a bulldog for two. She held it at ringside while the match continued. Scoop slam by Goldust for only two. Aksana ran to the ring and tried to wrestle the title away from Maryse. She took the title and slapped Maryse. Goldust was distracted, but DiBiase failed to take advantage and Goldy rolled him up for three.

Winner: Goldust, at 3:24. Not sure what this means…the announcers speculated Aksana may have had a change of heart regarding Goldust, or she just simply loves Gold. Match was good enough.

-Otunga vs. Cena and Nexus vs. Team Orton were both plugged again.

[Commercial Break]

-Mathews tahnked Hail the Villain for “Runaway,” the official Survivor Series theme.

(4) John Cena vs. David Otunga
Every Nexus member, including Barrett, walked out behind Otunga. But then, Barrett gave the high sign for Nexus to walk to the back. Otunga tried to head to the back, but Cena chased him down. He bounced Otunga’s head off the car that is always at the entranceway to signal the fact that Raw is indeed in the United Kingdom. Back in the ring, Cena landed a standing dropkick. Cena missed a shoulder charge in the corner and Otunga landed hard forearms into Cena’s back. Dueling “Let’s go Cena/Cena sucks” chants as Otunga pounded away on Cena outside the ring. Back in the ring, Otunga continued the punishment, but he missed with an elbowdrop. Cena with two shoulder tackles, then a front slam. Five-Knuckle Shuffle found the mark, and the AA was hit. Instead of going for the pin, though, Cena locked in the STF. Otunga tapped.

Winner: Cena, at 3:59. Working with guys like Cena can’t hurt Otunga as far as the improvement needed in his in-ring work.

Cena was shown hobnobbing with fans on his way to the back.

[Commercial Break]

-Otunga was icing his neck backstage when Barrett walked up to him. He put his arm around Otunga and said last week, David got pinned in their tag match, then marched Nexus to Smackdown and got pinned again. And just now, he went out and embarrassed Barrett. Wade said Otunga can redeem himself by taking Nexus back to Smackdown and having a match with Edge. And if Otunga doesn’t beat Edge…he’s done.

-Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov, coming out looking like they stole clothes from my roommates’ Halloween closet, were dressed as proper English gentlemen. Crowd chanted for Santino as soon as he got in the ring. He said he and Vlad like to blend in wherever they go. Actually, Kozlov looks quite at home in the suit. Marella said he and Kozlov watched all the James Bond, Austin Powers, Mr. Bean and Benny Hill movies, so they know about English culture. He joked about almost getting run over, intimating that he didn’t know what side of the road to cross on. There was a tea table set up in the ring…how can William Regal not be involved in this skit? Marella said Sheamus “was very anger to me” so he wants to make peace. He then brought out Shame-Moose, as he pronounces it.

Sheamus came out, slightly bemused. All three took a sit at the table in the ring. Marella talked about what kind of tea they had, but thought he hit a nerve when he said he had ginger tea. Sheamus said he got Marella all wrong…he’s not bad, just misunderstood. He said he knew someone like Marella back in Ireland. And like Marella, he had only one friend: a donkey. He was, in fact, the village idiot. Santino took offense to them calling a donkey a village idiot, completely missing the point. Santino poured the tea, asking Sheamus if he took it dark…or milky. Crowd popped again as Santino apologized. Marella turned his attention to research and said there are two possible reasons why Sheamus can be so angry: one, he was exposed to gamma rays; and two, he was, as a kid, excluded from games because he was a ginger. Crowd popped and again chanted for Santino. They are eating this segment up. Marella said he doesn’t mean to make fun of Sheamus, but he kept mis-speaking. Santino said he and Sheamus could get along famously. In fact, Santino forgets why Sheamus hates him too! Vlad chimed in that Marella is hated because he beat Sheamus. It was the biggest upset in Double-Double E history, he said. Kozlov chant. Holy shit. Santino’s hand was shaking as he went to get Sheamus’ tea. He was spilling it all over as the crowd anticipated the moment when Santino spilled it…and he obliged. Sheamus tipped over the table as the GM e-mailed Cole. The GM said it was time for action and requested the ring be cleared, including Kozlov. Santino vs. Sheamus is up next.

[Commercial Break]

(5) Santino Marella vs. Sheamus
Marella was still trying to de-suit when the bell rang. To his credit, he did have his ring gear on underneath. Marella tried to escape the ring, and did so successfully, until Sheamus chased him. Santino climbed over the barricade and did toe-touches in the crowd, but the GM e-mailed Cole again. He told Santino that he can either get back in the ring and compete or be immediately suspended. Mathews suggested Santino take the suspension. Marella tried to psych himself up and he set up the cobra, but Sheamus clobbered him in the head. Sheamus did not let up, and eventually, Santino begged off. As Sheamus went after him again, Santino low-blowed him for the DQ. He celebrated the end of the match.

Winner: Sheamus, via DQ, at 2:57. More comedy with Santino, that the crowd was very into.

Santino foolishly celebrated in the ring, leaving him open to a Brogue Kick and more torture from Sheamus. Irish Curse was about to be hit, but John Morrison ran to the ring. He made the save for Santino.

-Cena was backstage, watching a commercial for Wrestlemania 2011. It morphed into US watching the commercial, somehow. It pulled back to show Cena with Barrett now over his shoulder. Barrett talked about Cena perhaps never being able to experience the feeling of wrestling at Wrestlemania again after Survivor Series. He said if Cena follows the plan, he can fight in as many Wrestlemanias as he wants, and Nexus will be a distant memory. Screw up…and his WWE career will be a distant memory.

[Commercial Break]

-The second-and-third generation WWE superstars Stand Up for WWE aired.

-Randy Orton made his entrance for the main event, followed by R-Truth (to no reaction, and even some boos), Daniel Bryan, Mark Henry, and The Miz (accompanied by Alex Riley). Nexus came out next, followed by John Cena, the guest referee. The match starts after the break.

[Commercial Break]

(6) Randy Orton & R-Truth & Daniel Bryan & Mark Henry & The Miz vs. Wade Barrett & Heath Slater & Justin Gabriel & Michael McGillicutty & Husky Harris- John Cena as Special Referee
Miz got the first extended offense in the match, putting the boots to McGillicutty in the corner. Corner clothesline was hit solidly and Cena gave him a two-count. Orton tagged in and knee-dropped McGillicutty in the chest. He tossed the son of Mr. Perfect in the corner, and shouted that he wanted Barrett. Instead, Slater came in. Truth tagged in as well and hit some of his pet moves against Slater. A pin was broken up by Gabriel, and all ten men started brawling (actually nine, as Barrett stayed on the apron). Team Orton cleared the ring as Barrett had some harsh words for Nexus outside the ring. David Otunga then made his way to ringside. Cole asked what Otunga’s agenda was as they went to break.

[Commercial Break]

Order was restored during the break, and Otunga was standing in front of the announcers at ringside. Big back heel kick by Gabriel for two. Harris was in for the first time, and had to cover up against Truth’s punches. He was then matched up with Henry. They traded rights, with Henry gaining the upper hand. Bodyslam by Henry, but Harris fired back with a splash in the corner. Harris whipped McGillicutty into the corner, but Henry (sorta) clotheslined him down. Tag to Bryan and it sounded like the announcers were muted for a second. Don’t know if that was an edit or not. Dropkick to the face in the corner by Bryan, for only two. Bryan tried to get McGillicutty in the LeBell lock, but Harris made the blind tag. Short clothesline and Bryan did the Marty Jannetty sell for a two-count. Mathews listed off Jimmy Snuka, Jim Duggan, Iron Sheik, Nikolai Volkoff, Roddy Piper and Gene Okerlund (handling backstage interviews) as those who will be on hand for Old School next week. That’s more of a list of 80s guys than old school Raw guys. Barrett came in and stretched Bryan for a bit. Nexus made frequent tags to work ove Bryan in their corner. Slater missed a corner charge and both men were down. Slater tagged Barrett and Bryan tagged Orton. Orton’s intensity was no match for Barrett, and Orton gave Barrett the rope-assisted DDT, then pounded the mat to signal the RKO. Barrett came back with a headbutt though. He set up for Wasteland, but Orton countered with a back-breaker. McGillicutty broke up the pin. Truth came in and gave him a front suplex, then Gabriel superkicked him. Henry slammed Gabriel, then Slater and Harris threw Henry over the top. Missile dropkick by Bryan to Slater and Harris. Another Wasteland counter into another backbreaker. Otunga distracted Cena from ringside, and Riley hit Orton with the MITB briefcase, while Miz hit the Skull-Crushing Finale on Orton. Barrett made the pin.

Winners; Nexus, at 15:18.

Nexus held Barrett on their shoulders on the ramp as Orton looked on from the ring with disdain.


(edited by geemoney on 8.11.10 2307)

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I didn't see much but I did love that Sheamus was trying hard not to laugh during his segment. What is a ginger? They don't hate redheads do they?



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Anyone else pick up on a minor logic flaw? The members of Nexus are banned from ringside ... yet the match must end in a pinfall or submission. IOW, no disqualification. So ... what would happen if Nexus interfered?
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    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Anyone else pick up on a minor logic flaw? The members of Nexus are banned from ringside ... yet the match must end in a pinfall or submission. IOW, no disqualification. So ... what would happen if Nexus interfered?


I think where they're going with this is Otunga loses to Edge on Smackdown this week and is unceremoniously drummed out of Nexus.....thus allowing him to interfere (since he isn't a Nexus member anymore) at Survivor Series and help Barrett. It's the old Russo fake-turn swerve, except WWE is playing it out over several shows, not in 50 minutes like on TNA.
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The Cole and Matthews team was born for a garbage show like NXT. But when these two clowns bring their act to the A-show, something's very wrong.

Oh, I don't like the idea of having to recap Edge/Otunga this Friday. This could get very ugly.

The Manchester crowd needs to be applauded for keeping the Santino Tea Party segment going the way they did. Hell, the fact that they were even keen enough to start a Kozlov chant was just awesome. Santino playing off of the crowd was brilliant. This segment would have bombed here in the U.S., so kudos to the English crowd for playing along. I'm also going to concur that watching Sheamus nearly lose it made the segment that much better. Oh, and I can't forget to give a round of applause to Kozlov for letting himself go for one night...and also for bringing back the "Double Double E" pronunciation. I loved that initial aspect to his character.

Did someone in the back get slapped upside the head for having both Diva teams come out as teams the crowd hated? I mean, would it have killed them to do five seconds of research?

Can we PLEASE just fast-forward to the end of the Hart Dynasty breakup already. Watching them drag this out is just painful.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by It's False
    The Cole and Matthews team was born for a garbage show like NXT. But when these two clowns bring their act to the A-show, something's very wrong.


I couldn't disagree harder. I loved the Cole/Matthews team, especially because, unlike the King, Matthews is willing to banter with heel Cole. They actually felt like they had a dynamic working together, as opposed to King/Cole, where it seems like each guy is just out there doing his own thing all by himself.
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Was this a test run for the Cole/Matthews pairing, given the good reviews they've been getting on NXT? Weird that King was so suddenly and unexpectedly unavailable.

I agree with Big Bad - the Otunga things a swerve.
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I thought it was an ok show, but a show I have seen for most of the fall. I am actually hoping we don't get a Hart break-up,, because there is barely any tag teams in this company to begin with. Cole and Matthews were just ok tonight. The crowd was at least into it. I will be at Raw next week, so that should be fun with the old school guys mainly Piper since most of the current rosters is just boring the hell out of me. The tea party thing was comedy gold.
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Only saw a bit of it, but popped for the old WWF logo and text for next weeks show. Is Lord Alfred Hayes still around? (Quick Wiki, nope, he passed in '05. RIP, LAH~!)
So, how about Mooney or Pettingil? Or, please God, Vince and Jesse. "WHATTAMANEUVER~!" and "The 'ol Greco Roman thumb to the eye, McMahon. Gets 'em every time." Jesse could plug his show. I know they did it last year, right? Vince in the powder blue suit? Fuck the brain dead storyline. Nothing brings Vince back from the dead like the old WWF logo. Wonder how much the pandas got for them to use that?

-edit- Just saw this over at DVDVR:


USA Old School, too! Can we please follow Raw next week with Up All Night?

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by Hokienautic
      Anyone else pick up on a minor logic flaw? The members of Nexus are banned from ringside ... yet the match must end in a pinfall or submission. IOW, no disqualification. So ... what would happen if Nexus interfered?


    I think where they're going with this is Otunga loses to Edge on Smackdown this week and is unceremoniously drummed out of Nexus.....thus allowing him to interfere (since he isn't a Nexus member anymore) at Survivor Series and help Barrett. It's the old Russo fake-turn swerve, except WWE is playing it out over several shows, not in 50 minutes like on TNA.


A Rehash of when The Big Bossman was kicked out of the corporation so that he could raise the briefcase, then.

Even so, it looks kind of bad that Nexus kicked out all its blacks, if Otunga doesn't rejoin (if he does indeed get kicked out)






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    The second-and-third generation WWE superstars Stand Up for WWE aired.


These are quickly becoming my favorite WWE segments each week. They are challenging the TNA ReAction interviews, and they make me more interested in the people outside the characters. Dustin on a WWE broadcast without the Goldust gimmick always surprises me. The people who have flat characters, like Orton, are much more interesting when they can speak like normal people. And they acknowledged the Hennig and Rotunda lineages.



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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Was this a test run for the Cole/Matthews pairing, given the good reviews they've been getting on NXT? Weird that King was so suddenly and unexpectedly unavailable.


King had a infection in his leg, so he couldn't make it overseas. I enjoyed Mathews on commentary though; he often summarized things and gave a good overview of feuds. And he challenged Cole, such as;

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    Originally posted by It's False
    The Cole and Matthews team was born for a garbage show like NXT. But when these two clowns bring their act to the A-show, something's very wrong.


Something is very, very right. The announcing in WWE across the board has been better and more entertaining than it has been since the glory days of heel King and Good Ol' JR during the Attitude era. The robotic, over-produced, emotion-lacking announcing in WWE is thankfully gone.

Putting Cole on every show and letting him loose with his over the top Vickie-loving, Miz-loving, Bryan-hating heel character actually helped everyone from Striker (whom I remarkably no longer loathe), Mathews, and even Grisham pick up their game. Only the King is really stuck in some announcing coma, and I didn't miss him one bit this week. (I really wrote Lawler off for good when Bret Hart came back - whom he used to hilariously hate - and Lawler has not to this day said anything negative about him.)

Mathews and Cole slid right into calling the flagship show and brought the rollicking goofiness they've perfected on NXT to RAW. They banter, they argue and - get this - they have opinions! Cole likes this guy, he hates that guy, Josh likes this girl, he doesn't like Hamburger Helper. But Cole does. They tell jokes and they even - wonder of wonders - will say out loud if they think something is stupid. What's wrong with that? That's great. They're people watching the shows just like us, talking about it the way I would if I'm with my friends watching together.

I mean, the announcers sound like they're having fun. Fun! They're treating RAW, Smackdown, and NXT like it's fun (or in the case of NXT like it's a hilarious living hell) instead of like it's watching three funerals a week, which is how the announcing generally has been since about 2007.

Cole annoys you? Good! At least you're reacting, feeling something about the product. I think Cole is funny; actually all of the announcers except Lawler (the old guard of who was supposed to be funny) are various degrees of funny now. That makes the shows better, more entertaining, and more fun. I'm actually sorry for those who don't get it.

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I only checked in sporadicly during the show. The foreign crowds always makes for a decent show at worst.




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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Cole annoys you? Good! At least you're reacting, feeling something about the product. I think Cole is funny; actually all of the announcers except Lawler (the old guard of who was supposed to be funny) are various degrees of funny now. That makes the shows better, more entertaining, and more fun. I'm actually sorry for those who don't get it.


Cole's new attitude feels just as forced as his happy company-man commentary years ago on SmackDown. To this day, I still cringe at his reading of "Michelle McCool. She's loving life!" It seems no different than Lawler's "puppies" comments. That degree of artifice, whether as a face or hell, rubs me the wrong way. It's literally a physical reaction, a cringe that exhausts me to hear it. I change the channel or FF.

I'll end on a positive note. Cole gave Bryan some props at the start of the tag match, and, in moderating his rabid anti-Bryan rhetoric, his delivery felt more organic and credible. I can listen to that guy, not so much Cole the Vickie Licker.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
Oh, and please bring back JR for one night.

Also, I can't wait to hear Howard Finkel open the show up.

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
To me J. R. is more of an "Attitude Era"-guy than an "Old School WWF"-guy. So, in my opinion he doesn't qualify. Bobby Heenan (if healthy enough) would be a good choice, or Vince himself.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
    Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
    Nothing brings Vince back from the dead like the old WWF logo. Wonder how much the pandas got for them to use that?
Nothing - they can use the block WWF logo, just not the scratch WWF logo. And they can call it the World Wrestling Federation all they want, just not the WWF.

I haven't watched Raw in a few weeks and I'm pretty burnt out on wrestling as a whole, but the old-timey graphics have me excited for next week. I know I'll be disappointed - the three-hour Raws are usually terrible - but I'll give it a shot.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.35
Maybe Santino should go to the UK more often; afterall, he recieved a much bigger reaction than when he normally appears on Raw in the States. Giving some credit though, Santino was actually funny for the first time in long time and it looked like Sheamus was trying not to laugh during the "tea time" segment.

I was glad to see the Usos back on Raw; too bad they will be on Superstars for awhile before they make another appearance on the "A Show".



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
    Originally posted by KJames199
      Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
      Nothing brings Vince back from the dead like the old WWF logo. Wonder how much the pandas got for them to use that?
    Nothing - they can use the block WWF logo, just not the scratch WWF logo. And they can call it the World Wrestling Federation all they want, just not the WWF.



Really? I swore that in some of the newer dvd's that they've pixelated out the block WWF logo in some of the older matches. Might be my old timers memory biting me in the hinder. Sorry!
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