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Since: 6.1.02
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.01
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    He's a heel play by play man, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been done before.


    Bobby the brain Heenan
    Jerry Lawer
    JBL
    Taz
    Paul Haymen
    Eric Bishoff
    Vince McMahon

    (edited by yamcharulez on 21.9.10 1231)


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#22 Posted on
    Originally posted by yamcharulez
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      He's a heel play by play man, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been done before.


      Bobby the brain Heenan
      Jerry Lawer
      JBL
      Taz
      Paul Haymen
      Eric Bishoff
      Vince McMahon

      (edited by yamcharulez on 21.9.10 1231)



The first five are an excellent list of COLOR COMMENTATORS.

Bischoff stopped being Nitro's play by play man when he turned heel, and Vince stopped being an announcer when he became the Mr. McMahon character. (Not counting that one Retro RAW last year when he stepped back behind the announce booth).

(edited by John Orquiola on 21.9.10 1235)


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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
    Originally posted by InVerse
    Props to Lawler for shitting all over Cody Rhodes' entire gimmick. It almost sounded like he didn't actually know what the Dashing stuff was all about and he thought that Michael Cole was just blowing smoke.



Jerry Lawler not being up on his Smackdown storylines would not be surprising in the least bit. One of my favorite parts about Cole going heel is that it makes Lawler sound like a total pinhead. I'm not even sure what kind of value Lawler adds to the show anymore.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro


    R.I.P. Nexus
    2010-2010
    As It Turns Out,
    Our Larger Purpose Was
    GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG


I also think that Nexus is dead, but only this version of Nexus. I can see Barrett going back to the drawing board and adding guys from Season 2 to give it another go.

I just don't see heel Cena working any better than heel Goldberg did.

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro


      R.I.P. Nexus
      2010-2010
      As It Turns Out,
      Our Larger Purpose Was
      GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG


    I also think that Nexus is dead, but only this version of Nexus. I can see Barrett going back to the drawing board and adding guys from Season 2 to give it another go.

    I just don't see heel Cena working any better than heel Goldberg did.




I think the Season 2 guys would have been recruited already had they not turned out to be so bloody awful. That brawl at the end of the season was just so damaging that I wouldn't be shocked if they pulled the plug on their Nexus plan immediately afterwards. With Kaval firmly in as a face and Riley tied up with Miz, who's left of any value to add to Nexus? Husky Harris? EVIL~! Percy Watson?

The difference between Cena and Goldberg is that Cena already played the heel role effectively in the past. Even before he became Evil White Rapper John Cena, he's had a history of drawing major heat going all the way back to his OVW days. I think heel Cena's one of those things that sounds like a bad idea on paper, but would work very well in practice.




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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by yamcharulez
        Originally posted by JayJayDean
        He's a heel play by play man, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been done before.


        Bobby the brain Heenan
        Jerry Lawer
        JBL
        Taz
        Paul Haymen
        Eric Bishoff
        Vince McMahon

        (edited by yamcharulez on 21.9.10 1231)



    The first five are an excellent list of COLOR COMMENTATORS.

    Bischoff stopped being Nitro's play by play man when he turned heel, and Vince stopped being an announcer when he became the Mr. McMahon character. (Not counting that one Retro RAW last year when he stepped back behind the announce booth).


I think the fact that the first five were color commentators goes to show that the position of a "heel" announcer really only works if it's the guy whose job it is to give opinions.

I'm not sure how well a heel play by play guy could work. Ass-kissing The Miz and hating Daniel Bryan can only go on for so long and then what's left to do? And when Miz and Bryan *aren't* on screen, what is he supposed to do? He can't go back to 'normal', he has to stay a heel. Does he start saying "Cena with a stupid armdrag"?

I'm also against any time that actual talent (especially talent that's not really over in any stretch of the word) is brought out just to be made fun of in the attempt to get an *announcer* over.
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#26 Posted on
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    Does he start saying "Cena with a stupid armdrag"?


I wish Cole would. For the record, all I'm saying about Cole is that I'm enjoying his work, not that it's a good idea that is benefiting the product in the long run. Cole makes me laugh and in My Universe, making me laugh = Good. My Universe > WWE Universe to me.



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emma
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
    Originally posted by The Game
    There is next Monday where if Orton wins, we may see an absence from Jericho for a little while. I am hoping that Jericho doesn't leave and Orton loses next week. The way the story has been hopping around this, I think Jericho will leave and from a storyline point of view, I can see Jericho leaving from a punt from Randy Orton (but I am really hoping these guesses are wrong).
According to the Fozzy website (fozzyrock.com), they have a tight touring schedule in Europe from Oct 9 on -- whole bunch of UK dates, plus a couple of dates in France, & also a few Australia dates in early December. So Chris will be on hiatus for a while, which is fine. (It's good for the high-end guys to get away time.) So really the only question is how they opt to write him out.

Get punted by Randy? Likely, but oh, so yaaaaaawn.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.77
I guess Jericho eating an Orton punt works, but now that Randy is a megaface, the idea of him kicking a guy in the head to put him out for months at a time is kind of strange. (And not PG at all.)
lotjx
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I guess Jericho eating an Orton punt works, but now that Randy is a megaface, the idea of him kicking a guy in the head to put him out for months at a time is kind of strange. (And not PG at all.)


According to the spoilers, there are other less then PG antics with Edge as well. I am also not a big fan of it either. Maybe the fans will eat it up, but the last time they removed Jericho in a rather heel fashion, he kick started the fans really starting to turn on Cena. I doubt it will happen with Orton due to being more over then Cena when they pulled that stunt.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.39
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
      Originally posted by The Game
      If Cena were to do a heel turn, this would be an ideal situation but Cena does so well as a face for the company, will they risk turning him heel?



    I have a feeling with the reactions Randy Orton has been getting, added to the fact that he won the World Title and won't be labeled as a "choker" for his face run, they have now positioned Orton to take over short term so Cena can turn and get a nice spark to his character.


Good point and for the first time in quite some time, it would actually make Cena interesting.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
Can't help singing "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit" during Bryan's theme. He looks like a young Chuck Norris.

"He's a vegan-and he doesn't own a TV!" has to be the most non-insulting insult ever.

So Edge is so pissed at the GM, he's gonna, he's gonna...uh, walk off angrily?

I heard a rumor that there isn't a Sheamus action figure because they can't find plastic white enough to match his skin. They should bring back the King of the Ring because that dude could rock a robe and crown, fella.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.39
    Originally posted by dwaters
    Can't help singing "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit" during Bryan's theme. He looks like a young Chuck Norris.

    "He's a vegan-and he doesn't own a TV!" has to be the most non-insulting insult ever.

    So Edge is so pissed at the GM, he's gonna, he's gonna...uh, walk off angrily?

    I heard a rumor that there isn't a Sheamus action figure because they can't find plastic white enough to match his skin. They should bring back the King of the Ring because that dude could rock a robe and crown, fella.


I agree on the Michael Cole comment and reiterating my point that I am hoping Michael Cole is the Raw GM now just because Cole is really, really bad as a heel commentator; he tries way too hard to fill the role of a heel commentator and it's just not natural for him compared to other heel commentators such as Bobby "The Brain", Jesse "The Body" Ventura, Lawler from the 90's and so forth where they went about their roles as if it was second nature to them.

Sheamus as KOTR? I can see it and it would work. I just wish they would use it like when Brock Lesnar won it and whoever won the KOTR would not also be the KOTR but be the #1 contender for the title.
hayden
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
Lawler, after Jericho screamed at Morrison that he was a stupid man: Can you imagine him calling you a stupid man?
Cole: He has, on numerous occasions...he couldn't remember my name for a number of years.

Loved the reference to the era of Jericho butchering interviewers' names.

I find Edge and Jericho's increasing frustration with the GM interesting, especially considering both storylines are developing on their own paths without the two interacting to complain about the GM. It's possible they'll join forces at some point, but for now I'm liking that they're keeping them separate and having them pursue the matter individually.

The Miz/Bryan stuff is great - Miz's intensity in that segment was fantastic.

(edited by hayden on 22.9.10 1809)
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