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TONIGHT: New WWE Champion Randy Orton will be on hand, and it’s already two weeks until the next PPV, Hell in a Cell. A PPV-worthy match will be offered as the main event, when John Cena takes on Wade Barrett. Daniel Bryan is new U.S. Champion, plus, whither Chris Jericho?


-WWE Open.

-Raw Open.

-Inside the Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler introduced the show. Justin Roberts intro’d the new WWE Champion. Before Orton’s music ended, with him posing in the ring, Sheamus’ music hit and he came out with a mic. He talked on the stage, saying that Orton does not deserve this moment. He made his way to the ring, and said both times he’s had the title, it’s been stolen from him. He said the fans have discriminated against him since he’s been champion. He got into the ring at this point and said Orton has never beaten him one-on-one for the WWE Title. His beard looks extra red tonight. Sheamus was in the ring at this point. Orton reminded him he won the title in a Fatal Four-Way when Nexus interfered, and also, he has never beaten Orton in his entire life. Orton said Sheamus was entitled to a rematch, and he better do it soon, otherwise he’ll catch a punt to the skull. Sheamus said he wasn’t scared and said he’d kick Orton’s head off. Orton dared him to try. They got face-to-face when the GM e-mailed Cole. The GM said they would have a rematch, and when it’s over, there would be no question about who is the real champion. No DQ, no count-outs, no escape. It’ll be Orton vs. Sheamus in Hell in a Cell. Sheamus said he’s never been in HiaC, but since he ended Triple H’s career with his own bare hands, he’s not afraid of a little steel. He said that before he leaves, he wants Orton to give him his gold. Orton was dumbfounded. Sheamus said if Orton’s an honorable man, he’d hand it over. “RKO” chant. Orton said he is NOT an honorable man and reminded Sheamus of what he’s done to others in the past. He said he’d RKO his own Grandmother to keep the title, then RKO Sheamus’ too just to see the look on her face. Orton told Sheamus he can take the belt- he flipped it to Sheamus, then RKO’d him when the Irishman caught it. Orton’s music played, then he left the ring. Before he got too far, he came back into the ring and set up for the punt. Sheamus was able to slide out of the ring before it connected.

-Still to come tonight, John Cena vs. Wade Barrett.

[Commercial Break]

-Full Night of Champions coverage can be found on WWE.com.

-The Hart Dynasty were sitting at ringside with Cole and Lawler doing commentary for the next match.

(1) Drew McIntyre & Cody Rhodes vs. Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov
Cole was really heeling on the Dynasty. Tyson Kidd seemed to be the only one talking and he wasn’t doing well. Marella didn’t seem to know how to take Cody down, but he did kip up into a right hand. D.H. Smith did an OK McIntyre impression. Cole even called them “boring.” Take-down by Kozlov on McIntyre, and he was able to tag Santino. Hip-toss by Santino, and he set up for the Cobra. Instead, McIntyre booted him straight in the face. Cover got two. Did Cole say the Dynasty’s title reign ended “drastically” last night? More of a beat-down from McIntyre. Kozlov made the hot tag and headbutted Drew in the chest. Up for a powerslam, and down as the pin was broken up by Rhodes. Marella was thrown out of the ring, and Kozlov kicked Rhodes to ringside. Kozlov then walked into the Future Shock for the win.

Winners: McIntyre and Rhodes, at 4:13. Cole absolutely buried the Dynasty on commentary, especially at the end. This match went longer than I thought it would, maybe so they could keep the Harts twisting in the wind.

-Lawler had the “Legendary” DVD at ringside and he and Cole talked about it coming out on DVD and the extras.

-They showed clips of John Morrison and his highlight reel from his match against Sheamus last week. He was then shown again warming up backstage. He faces Chris Jericho next.

[Commercial Break]

-Edge was backstage when Zack Ryder walked up to him, trying to convince him to start hanging out again. Edge said he doesn’t want to “hang” with Ryder and he should be WWE Champion right now. He said it wasn’t fair and that he was screwed. Daniel Bryan walked in and asked the two to keep it down- he was reading. Edge was ticked that Bryan “lucked” his way into the US Title and he’s now telling Edge to keep it down? Ryder made the “loser” symbol on his forehand, but Edge left him hanging for a high-five. Edge said he wanted to hurt someone tonight, and Bryan is that person. He said if Bryan had any guts, he’d meet him out there. Bryan agreed. Ryder called him a loser again and Edge informed Ryder that his “L” was backward.

(2) Chris Jericho vs. John Morrison
Morrison was the aggressor and Jericho seemed caught off guard. Cole compared Morrison to an X Games athlete, with his parkour training. Jericho was propelled to ringside and he dove over the side turnbuckle and landed on Jericho on the outside. All Morrison as they went to break.

[Commercial Break]

Morrison was still dominating out of break, ‘til Jericho got in a cheap shot, then an enziguiri. Lawler mentioned that Jericho seemed off his game. Apparently, Jericho is competing because he reneged on his statement that he’d leave WWE if he didn’t win the title last night. Jericho wanted a count-out win, but Morrison wouldn’t allow it. He suplexed Morrison back in off the apron, then landed a back suplex. Dropkick to the jaw, then some choking in the middle rope. Inside cradle out of nowhere by Morrison for two. Jericho responded with a clothesline for a near-fall. Morrison made a comeback, but Jericho stopped him. Landed on his feet on a Lionsault attempt. Flash Kick was caught by Jericho, who turned it into the Walls of Jericho. Morrison got to the bottom rope to break the hold. Jericho grabbed the referee in anger, but was not DQ’d. Jericho charged at Morrison but was rolled up, and the two men traded roll-ups for near-falls. Another Walls attempt, but Morrison corkscrewed out. Running knee to the head of Jericho, then he went for the Starship Pain. It connected decently this time, for the win.

Winner: Morrison, at 10:19. Good match, as you’d expect between these two.

The camera again stayed on Jericho after the loss. Again, he looked distraught.

-John Cena’s locker room was shown backstage. We’ll hear from him next.

[Commercial Break]

-John Cena was backstage with Josh Mathews. Mathews asked if he was disappointed he didn’t leave Night of Champions as champion. Who scripts these stupid questions? Cena pretended to be happy about yesterday, saying his Fantasy Football team did well at least. But he did say he was happy to see Orton win the belt, if only because he got to see Barrett get RKO’d. Cena said if he takes out the Nexus leader tonight, the rest will walk around like zombies and fall to pieces. He said the winds of change stop tonight.

-The Miz came out with his MITB case and a microphone. He talked about the injury he had sustained heading into last night’s match and said doctors advised him not to compete, but he did what no fans would’ve done and defended his title. He said that during the match, his injury became so aggravated that he had to save himself from potential surgery. He claimed that he’d regain his US Title because he’s the Miz….and he did not tap out. He was set to join the announcers for the next match.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Edge vs. Daniel Bryan
Bryan got the Star Wars music for his intro. Edge angrily went after Bryan and was almost DQ’d immediately. Bryan got a few shots in, then went back on defense. Edge dragged Bryan out of the ring and threw him into the barricade. Forearm shot to Bryan on the outside. Lawler ranted to Cole about ranting on Bryan. Bryan fired back with kicks to the chest, but an Edge-O-Matic stopped him in his tracks. Miz said he signed Alex Riley to a personal services contract, and will accompany Miz at all times…except for tonight. Bryan ran the ropes and landed a nice flying clothesline. Jaw-breaker on Edge, then a running knee for two. To the top, Bryan went for a cross-body, but Edge booted him in the chest. He went for the Spear, but Bryan grabbed his arm and tried to hook the LeBell lock. As he did so, Alex Riley rant ot the ring and got on the apron, distracting the ref. Miz got on the apron and grabbed Bryan’s jaw, bouncing him neck-first off the top rope. Edge then speared Bryan for the win.

Winner: Edge, at 4:02. Miz was awesome on commentary, and the match was good too.

The GM e-mailed Cole, saying due to outside interference by The Miz, the GM is reversing the ref’s decision. The winner as a result of DQ was Daniel Bryan. Is this Cole throwing out a red herring or does this take him out of the running for GM? Edge got a mic and said he was tired of the anonymous GM and the computer. He said it was no joke- it was his career. After Edge walked to the back, Miz and Riley pummeled Bryan in the ring. Crowd chanted “you tapped out” at Miz. Riley held Bryan while Miz slapped him across the face and brow-beat him. Skull-Crushing Finale ended it. They replayed the beating as Lawler spoke in hushed tones.

-Tonight, John Cena vs. Wade Barrett.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler thanked Atomsmash for “Sacrifice,” the Hell in a Cell theme song.

(4) Layla vs. Melina –Unified Divas Championship Match
Layla and McCool BOTH had Divas Championship Belts. Now this is getting ridiculous. McCool joined the announcers for the match. Melina took the fight to Layla, who then took over with a knee to the gut and threw Melina to ringside. Hard clothesline by Melina on Layla. McCool took her headset off and Melina tried to go after her, but McCool escaped through the crowd. Layla tried an ambush, but Melina caught her. She tossed Layla back in the ring and hit a face-buster. McCool returned to commentary and Melina dropkicked Layla. Kick by Layla was blocked as she then hid in the corner. Melina set Layla on the top rope and Layla connected on a relatively impressive flip stunner on Melina for the win.

Winner: Layla, at 2:03. Could’ve been worse. Finish looked nice, but I could see that one being severely botched in the future.

-Cena vs. Barrett, first time ever on Raw, still to come.

[Commercial Break]

-Wade Barrett was pow-wowing with the rest of Nexus backstage, and out of earshot of the camera.

-Jericho’s frowning mug was shown next, and he was with Josh Mathews. Jericho had an announcement to make. It was about his new DVD that was coming out. He said the set should be in the Smithsonian, but he didn’t bring it up just to shill DVDs. He said he’s going to continue to get better, and Jericho said he got the IP address to Michael Cole’s computer, so he’s closer to exposing the GM, and blackmailing him to the best of his abilities. Jericho said he’d demand the GM give him a title shot against the winner of Orton vs. Sheamus. Orton walked up behind Jericho and said he hears Jericho loud and clear. Orton said that he wants to face Jericho one-on-one next week, and if Jericho wins, Orton will give him a title shot anytime. Orton said if he wins, he won’t be seeing Jericho’s face for a long time. Jericho said he has made a career out of beating and embarrassing guys like Orton.

-R-Truth rapped his way to the ring with his new theme, and Eve Torres, as they went to break.

[Commercial Break]

(5) R-Truth & Eve Torres vs. Ted DiBiase & Maryse- Mixed Tag-Team Match
DiBiase has new music too, something I’d hear on a top 40 radio station. Truth leap-frogged out of a corner charge, then landed a flying leg kick. The ladies came in next and Truth wiggled in front of Maryse, who then slapped him. Eve took out Maryse with a spear and the two rolled around for a while. Slap by Maryse, then a few slams of her head into the canvas. Eve fought back and Maryse missed a wild kick. Somersault by Eve onto Maryse for two, but DiBiase pulled her leg to break up the pin. Truth took out DiBiase and dove onto him on the outside. Maryse set up for her DDT, but Eve countered with a spinning neckbreaker for the pinfall victory.

Winners: Truth and Eve, at 2:37.

DiBiase and Maryse argued on their way to the back when a message came on the TitanTron: I…will….have….you. And the “o” in “you” was a heart. I bet it’s Big Daddy V.

-Cena vs. Barrett is next.

[Commercial Break]

-The Indianapolis Colts were shown at ringside, one with a Spinner belt.

-The GM has OK’d the Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho match for next week.

-John Cena and Wade Barrett made their entrances for the main event. Barrett got the mic and climbed on the announce table, saying there was a change of plans. He said Cena said earlier that he wants to take apart Nexus one-by-one. So therefore, he’ll be taking on Nexus in a gauntlet match, if he’s a man of his word. Oh joy, I’m expecting Cena to plow through these guys. Barrett said Cena will face him if he can beat the other four members. The alternative: Nexus collectively gets in the ring and kicks Cena’s teeth down the back of his throat. The choice is Cena’s.

(6) John Cena vs. Nexus- Gauntlet Match
Heath Slater was up first for Cena. His first offense was getting the boots up on a charge and kicking at Cena’s knee. Running forearm in the corner, then a dropkick to the seated Cena that looked weak. Hook of the leg on the pin got two. Slater still had the advantage as Barrett stood tall on the announce table, watching his minions do his bidding. Slater to the top, but Cena rolled through a cross-body, got to his feet and gave Slater the Attitude Adjustment for three. Slater done at 2:22. Otunga was up next as they went to break.

[Commercial Break]

Otunga was still working over Cena out of break. Another suplex from Otunga. Into the cover, hook of the leg, two-count only. Cena surprised Otunga with a small package for three, 4:31 into Otunga’s segment. Most of that was during the break, probably wise given Otunga’s short-comings. Tarver pounded away with rights and lefts on Cena in the corner as Lawler mistakenly called him Otunga. All of a sudden, Tarver found himself in the STF and tapped 1:03 in. Justin Gabriel was the final contestant before Barrett. Gabriel used his educated feet and got a two-count on a kick to the jaw. Cena came back with a dropkick (second in two nights) and got two. Suplex off the top rope by Gabriel, but both men felt the effects of that maneuver. Top rope moonsault connected, but Cena kicked out. Suplex was blocked and Cena hit one of his own. Gabriel was back on top, but still couldn’t get the three-count. Cross-body in the corner by Gabriel, then a springboard move missed, allowing Cena to capture the momentum. He went for the Attitude Adjustment, but the rest of Nexus interfered for the DQ.

Winner: Cena, via DQ, at 13:43. Well, SOME of Nexus didn’t look terrible.

As Nexus regrouped on the stage, Cena got the mic. He said Nexus owes him. He wanted to face Barrett to end things, right now. Barrett politely declined, saying he had nothing to gain by laying Cena to waste once more. He said if he does face Cena, something will have to sweeten the deal. Cena agreed to whatever stipulation Barrett could think of. Barrett said Cena claims he’ll do anything for the WWE Universe, so why doesn’t he put himself on the line? Barrett tried to recruit Cena before, but Cena was having none of it. He said he’d take the choice out of Cena’s hands. Barrett said he’d fight Cena one-on-one at Hell in a Cell, on one condition: Barrett wins, Cena becomes a part of Nexus. Cena agreed. As Barrett was about to leave, Cena said they have to make the match big. He wanted Barrett to put something on the line: If Cena wins, Nexus is DONE. Cena then said what the rest of Nexus will be forced to do after they are disbanded. He asked if the stakes got too big for Barrett just now. Wade stared him down, then agreed to the stips. Cena’s music played to end things.


(edited by geemoney on 20.9.10 2307)
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So how does it go from "I don't need to beat you up again unless you offer me something I can't turn down" to Cena having the upper hand in the stipulation discussion? That just seemed a bit odd to me.
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    Bryan got the Star Wars music for his intro

"Ride of the Valkyries" != "the Star Wars music".



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.70
You know, Cena having to be on Team Nexus at Bragging Rights in a big Raw vs. Smackdown vs. Nexus match could be pretty hahaha j/k

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.01
Is Sheamus' hair really that bright red, or does he colour it? It looks like he was drinking Cherry Kool-Aid just before coming out.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
The GM decision after the Bryan match has to be a red herring. Otherwise, what's the whole point of turning Michael Cole into a cartoon character if he ISN'T the GM? I really hope they speed this angle up, because I'm getting really tired of Cole's commentary dragging down every match where he feels the need to express his opinion. On that same token, nice job of burying the Harts. I'm glad they felt the need to completely dump on two guys that need all the help they can get to put over Michael freakin' Cole.

Just when I think I'm completely over the Nexus angle, we get the PPV stipulation. Cena joining the group could be the kickstart it needs.

RIP The ever-awesome Legacy music. DiBiase formally dumping it for good saddens me greatly.

I'm going to love having McIntyre and Rhodes on Raw. I know the mandated rematch with the Harts is coming, but would be too much to ask to put that match on SmackDown? They put on a really good show last Friday and I'd hate for their encore to get overshadowed by Cole's infuriating schtick.

Watching Edge and Jericho is becoming sad now. It's so obvious that both of them can still really go, but they've both hit a major wall, in the sense that there's just nowhere else they can possibly go with their current characters. It's obvious with Jericho that he's either on his way out or on the verge of a major character overhaul. Edge needs the same kind of overhaul in the worst way, because he's become stale and the first half of the year showed that a face turn won't be the answer. They'd better find the answer for him soon, because if they've run out of things for him to do and if they can't make him interesting, they might as well cut him loose too.

(edited by It's False on 21.9.10 0242)



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
I don't think we should take heightened heel interest in the identity of the mystery GM as any indication they've actually figured out who the GM will be.

Melina return momentum sure died a sudden and surprising death. Not that I'm dying to see Melina/LayCool matches, but it's not like there's a better idea to move on to.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.94
    Originally posted by Me in the NoC thread
    Have yet to see this show, but found this tidbit: they have it up on PWInsider.com (pwinsider.com) that this was Chris Jericho's final scheduled appearance with WWE for the time being. To be honest, I didn't expect any kind of farewell, and there wasn't any from what I have read.


PWInsider.com got that wrong. And I'm an idiot because I believed them.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
The sign which pointed out that Sheamus is comprised of practically the same color scheme as a bottle of Elmer's Glue really deserves to be inducted into the Hall of Fame next year.

Dear Hart Dynasty: The line is "We do our talking in the ring." It's obvious why they have Natasha for a mouthpiece now. Speaking of which, if and when the Hart Dynasty eventually break up, will they argue over which one is going to be the Hitman and which one is going to be the Anvil of the team, pissing off Natasha enough to turn on them?

My new vote for GM of Raw is "The Voices in Randy Orton's Head."

Speaking of which, I predict that Randy Orton punts Jericho next week, leading to a prolonged absence and an eventually mega-face return. (Alternatively, Jericho wins and it turns out that he's sticking around because he wants to put HHH over before he leaves. (Alternatively alternatively, Jericho no-sells the RKO by remaining on his feet while Orton hits the ground, which results in Orton immediately jumping back up and going for the RKO again.))

Props to Lawler for shitting all over Cody Rhodes' entire gimmick. It almost sounded like he didn't actually know what the Dashing stuff was all about and he thought that Michael Cole was just blowing smoke.

Left out of the recap was that after Edge informed Ryder that his L was backward, Ryder pulled his hand away from his forehead and, looking at it from the other side, pronounced that "No it's not."

Can LayCool "profess" that Kaval is considered part of the Unified Divas Championship, thus they get to bring him to Raw with them?

Speaking of which, that was a nice flip stunner from Layla. Is there anyone else in the running for Most Improved that could come close to her this year?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.98
    Originally posted by It's False
    Watching Edge and Jericho is becoming sad now. It's so obvious that both of them can still really go, but they've both hit a major wall, in the sense that there's just nowhere else they can possibly go with their current characters. It's obvious with Jericho that he's either on his way out or on the verge of a major character overhaul. Edge needs the same kind of overhaul in the worst way, because he's become stale and the first half of the year showed that a face turn won't be the answer. They'd better find the answer for him soon, because if they've run out of things for him to do and if they can't make him interesting, they might as well cut him loose too.


Seems like Edge and Jericho are being set up as the GM foils.

I like Jericho's work in this subplot, but I hate Lawler's narration of it.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    You know, Cena having to be on Team Nexus at Bragging Rights in a big Raw vs. Smackdown vs. Nexus match could be pretty hahaha j/k

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I dunno. If they're angling for a Cena heel turn this might be a good way to start the slow-burn.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.39
    Originally posted by used2bcool
      Originally posted by Me in the NoC thread
      Have yet to see this show, but found this tidbit: they have it up on PWInsider.com (pwinsider.com) that this was Chris Jericho's final scheduled appearance with WWE for the time being. To be honest, I didn't expect any kind of farewell, and there wasn't any from what I have read.


    PWInsider.com got that wrong. And I'm an idiot because I believed them.


There is next Monday where if Orton wins, we may see an absence from Jericho for a little while. I am hoping that Jericho doesn't leave and Orton loses next week. The way the story has been hopping around this, I think Jericho will leave and from a storyline point of view, I can see Jericho leaving from a punt from Randy Orton (but I am really hoping these guesses are wrong).
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.39
The first thing I have to say about Raw is Daniel Bryan's music; "Really?! Really?!" Okay, got that out of my system.

Raw was pretty good as it had some solid and good matches.

As for the Raw GM, I am not actually leaning towards wanting Cole now as the GM. His commentary is atrocious and the way he gets hyped up along with his non-creative insults sounds (see commentary with Hart Dynasty) like a 12 year old on too much caffeine. Cole is even worse as a heel commentator than a regular commentary.

Well, I am intrigued about the possibility of Cena joining Nexus or the end of Nexus. If Cena were to do a heel turn, this would be an ideal situation but Cena does so well as a face for the company, will they risk turning him heel? On the side of things, if Nexus does break up, the only person besides Barrett that I would care for to stay is Justin Gabriel.


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
    Originally posted by The Game
    If Cena were to do a heel turn, this would be an ideal situation but Cena does so well as a face for the company, will they risk turning him heel?



I have a feeling with the reactions Randy Orton has been getting, added to the fact that he won the World Title and won't be labeled as a "choker" for his face run, they have now positioned Orton to take over short term so Cena can turn and get a nice spark to his character.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
I have been burned before for hoping this, but a Cena heel turn would be one of the few things I can think of to really get me interested in Raw again. Joining Nexus against his will won't be a heel turn, however joining them willingly wouldn't make much sense either. Other than the flimsy "can't beat em, join em" excuse.




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.98
    Originally posted by kentish
    I have been burned before for hoping this, but a Cena heel turn would be one of the few things I can think of to really get me interested in Raw again. Joining Nexus against his will won't be a heel turn, however joining them willingly wouldn't make much sense either. Other than the flimsy "can't beat em, join em" excuse.


This might be the Cena Nation he always espoused. Like Rock taking over the Nation of Domination.

If the Nexus is together to claim their rightful spot on the top of the WWE, hitching a ride on Cena's coattails (heel or face) will get you halfway there. Ask Evan Bourne. Well, ask him three months ago. The Nexus doesn't have to be heel to gain position, if that's their real goal. They just have to have opportunity to challenge for titles.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.32
    Originally posted by It's False
    Watching Edge and Jericho is becoming sad now. It's so obvious that both of them can still really go, but they've both hit a major wall, in the sense that there's just nowhere else they can possibly go with their current characters. It's obvious with Jericho that he's either on his way out or on the verge of a major character overhaul. Edge needs the same kind of overhaul in the worst way, because he's become stale and the first half of the year showed that a face turn won't be the answer. They'd better find the answer for him soon, because if they've run out of things for him to do and if they can't make him interesting, they might as well cut him loose too.
Well, they HAVE had Edge interacting with Ryder recently... and you know they always carry a feud with Christian in their back pocket, so don't write off Edge just yet.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
Is Ted DiBiase's new theme the first using auto-tune? I hope it's the last.
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    Originally posted by It's False
    I really hope they speed this angle up, because I'm getting really tired of Cole's commentary dragging down every match where he feels the need to express his opinion.


100% opposite opinion from me. Cole is hilarious and has been one of the best things about RAW and especially NXT. What he's doing is the most refreshing and interesting thing any announcer has done in years. He's a heel play by play man, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been done before. And he says a lot of the stuff I'm thinking. Michael Cole has become a voice I can relate to and even represents many of my opinions on WWE. I've been bored to death with WWE's two face announcers combos forever. Cole is the postmodern version of Jerry Lawler in the 90's and Bobby Heenan or Jesse Ventura in the 80's. Plus, as is evident, Cole is so easy to despise and brings with him over a decade of lack of credibility. I only wish I could time travel back to 1997 and show what Cole's doing to Tony Schiavone.

    Originally posted by It's False
    Watching Edge and Jericho is becoming sad now. It's so obvious that both of them can still really go, but they've both hit a major wall, in the sense that there's just nowhere else they can possibly go with their current characters. It's obvious with Jericho that he's either on his way out or on the verge of a major character overhaul. Edge needs the same kind of overhaul in the worst way, because he's become stale and the first half of the year showed that a face turn won't be the answer. They'd better find the answer for him soon, because if they've run out of things for him to do and if they can't make him interesting, they might as well cut him loose too.


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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.60
    Originally posted by Aloiuqro Nhoj in the future
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Cole is hilarious and has been one of the best things about RAW and especially NXT. What he's doing is the most refreshing and interesting thing any announcer has done in years. He's a heel play by play man, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been done before. And he says a lot of the stuff I'm thinking. Michael Cole has become a voice I can relate to and even represents many of my opinions on WWE.


    Shhhhhhhhhhhocking - you find Michael Cole being an utter douchebag cool. I can't stand you fucking people who go along with the heelish dweebs because it makes you "cool" or "edgy". All of you bitch can go make like a pair of finger cuffs with Cole on one end and the Miz on the other. You make me vomit and I would like to invite you to light yourselves on fire.


I hope that saves him some time.



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